. >> alsop is a conductor's conductor, also teaching college students at johns hopkins peabody conservatorydoing it how do you do it? >> this is tricky aspect of conducting. you don't actually have an instrument. it's like playing air violin it's all imagined. you need 40 people to come over everyday. >> mike repper came to the peabody from california specifically to learn from alsop. >> what is specific about marin? >> she's inspirational. she's my all time mentor so -- >> marin alsop gave me a minutey lesson. i have to admit it was a little nerve racking. >> beings put the finger up? >> don't give up your day job. >> i will not, i will not. >> she still battles criticism from some fellow conductors who simply don't see a place for a woman with a baton. >> you were the first female to lead an orchestra like this. >> well, somebody had to be the first i suppose. >> does the glass ceiling still exist? >> oh sure, it exists. i looked arnld, thought there would be more women after ten years. not much company, 20 years, not much company. if i don't change the horizon, who's going to. >> she is