what troubles me about your world war ii analogy is after pearl harbor there is a clear, undeniable crisis that from the ordinary political divisions. right now we don't have that. when environmental change reaches the tipping point that is so devastating and undeniable that it is the equivalent of pearl harbor we may be at the point where these sorts of solutions no longer are as effective. what do you see as the most effective way to actually light a fire under policymakers and get them to take a look at these longer-term issues the right now don't necessarily affect their next election cycle? >> it depends on you hand me becoming politically active. let me give you a recent national example. over the last two years there has emerged a powerful grass-roots movement to ban the construction of new coal-fired power plants. it has been remarkably successful. the sierra club has been working and lawyers have been handling the court challenges of which there are scores and scores. but it has been effective. and it may be that we will not see many if any new coal-fired power plants licensed in

it was set up a week after pearl harbor was bombed.ryone tried make their currencies cheap so that they would have an advantage when they sold in another country. we'll show leadership. the imf came out of that. they had one main job. it was to have a stable monetary system. fixed exchange rates. they would have to be fixed relative to the dollar. the dollar would be conservable to gold at a fixed rate. jo any other country back up their currency with gold today sno >> no. instead of fighting to maintain a stable monetary system or figure out how to get back to one also almost reverse. they spit on virlt you'lly all the gold. mentioned earlier. in my recollection, jack camp was a gold supporter. >> you were involved if power america. ken was a visionary. what you don't want to do is inhibit that. all (yours really want does is good solid rules. >> people would say we are in the mess we are in today because of the growth in the 1980s. >> completely turned us around. our best days were behind us. what we learned under the reagan administ

on this day and 1942, the operation, the first american offensive both world war ii, remember, pearl harborhad been bombed seven months before. america lost every single battle it was in, up until june, the battle of midway. every single battle was a disaster. by june when the new way is one at a naval air power, by june, tens of thousands of americans were dead, not just in pearl harbor but all across the pacific ocean. they were americans died on the beaches of tea at who landed with the kennedys and the breads into the famous raid. you had a disaster going on north africa. it was a total reversal of everything everyone thought would happen. it was terrible news. the battle for guadalcanal was 20 days old today in 1942. 20 days long. when they landed at guadalcanal they expected it to be at max a 30 day battle. it was still going on six months later. there was absolutely no one who forecast that america could be put in that kind of a situation, yet at the end of the day, the nation's mobilizes and we win the war. and make no doubt about it, it would not have happened had the united states

>> lewis: in 2007 we probably had our electronic pearl harbor. it was an espionage pearl harbor.n power-- and, honestly, we don't know who it is-- broke into the department of defense, to the department of state, the department of commerce, probably the department of energy, probably nasa. they broke into all of the high- tech agencies, all of the military agencies, and downloaded terabytes of information. >> kroft: terabytes? >> lewis: a terabyte is... it's hard to say. the library of congress, which has millions of volumes, is about 12 terabytes. so we probably lost the equivalent of a library of congress worth of government information in 2007. >> kroft: all stolen by foreign countries? >> lewis: yeah. this was a serious attack, and that's really what made people wake up and say, "hey, we've got to get a grip on this." >> kroft: but since then, there has been an even more serious breach of computer security, which lewis called the most significant incident ever publicly acknowledged by the pentagon. last november, someone was able to get past the firewalls and encryption devic

not just at pearl harbor but all across the pacific ocean. you have americans who were dying on the beaches of tni hugh lended with the canadians in the brits in the famous rate. you had a disaster going on and it was a total reversal of everything everybody thought was going to happen. it was terrible news. the battle for guadalcanal was 20 days old today in 1942. 20 days along. when they landed at guadalcanal they expected it to be at max eighth 30 day battle and it was still going on six months later. there was absolutely no one who forecast that america could be put in that kind of this situation and yet at the end of the day 16.5 million men and women served in the armed forces, the nation mobilizes and we win the war. no doubt about it, it would not have happened had the united states not got into the war. europe would have been ruled by hitler and stalin and they would have parceled, and japan would have run asia. now, when you look at the way the news is being covered today and a despaired of things that are said routinely by my colle

. >> first of all, back in world war ii, there was a situation of pearl harbor that chief naval operation officer and a jag officer said should the admiral requesting, the navy was honorbound to convene a court-martial. and then under harry truman he said if even one american has done nothing wrong is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth, then all americans are in peril. on may 14 this year, there was a government oversight and formed a committee and deputy attorney general bayh spoke basically rephrasing of harry truman's words with regard to whistleblower protections, including whistleblowers in the intelligence community. the first objective of whistleblowers is to have trial by jury, so could you make some comment in regard to whistleblower protections for cases where whistleblowers, like a national decision directive 221 of 16 april, 1986, which has been declassified, where the navy was not obeying the presidential directive and you have a whistleblower who reports that. >> thank you. do you guys want to approach the whistleblower issue? >> i can offer a general commen

laying it out was written by a guy named harry dexter white in the treasury department a week after pearl harbor was bombed. and the idea was to say, you know, in the 30's, because of the depression, we had a breakdown of any kind of international system. we had beggar-thy-neighbor, competitive depreciations of currencies, where everyone tried to make their currency cheap, so they would get an advantage when they sold it in another country. we had protectionism. and in order to get the allies in europe to feel like there was something worth fighting for, the u.s. decided, let's give people hope that, if we get through this vicious war, there'll be something good to come to. we won't just go back to the 30's, where it was every man for himself and a depression. we'll show leadership. and so, the imf came out of that. the international monetary fund had one main job, and it was to have a stable international monetary system, fixed exchange rates among currencies. they would have to be fixed relative to the dollar, and the dollar would be convertible into gold at a fixed rate of $35 per ounce of go

the japanese began the war from the air at pearl harbor. they have been repaid many fold, and the end is not yet. with this bomb, we have now added a new and revolutionary increase in destruction to supplement the growing power of our armed forces. in their present form, these bonds are now in production, -- these bombs are now in production, and even more powerful forms are in development. it is an atomic bomb, a harnessing of the basic power of the universe, the force from which the sun draws its power has been loosed against those who brought war to the far east. we are now prepared to destroy, more rapidly and completely, every productive enterprise the japanese have in any city. we shall destroy their docks, their factories, and their communications. let there be no mistake, we shall completely destroy japan's power to make war. it was to spare the japanese people from utter destruction that the ultimatum of july 26 was issued. their leaders promptly rejected the ultimatum. if they do not now accept our terms, they may expect a rain of

1993 world trade center bombing was supervised by an fbi mull who was surprised -- fdr knew about pearl harborut we needed it to get. into the get muhammed's nephew was in the 9/11 world trade bombing which is current to what we are dealing with today. guest: that covers a lot of ground and conspiracy theories. in some cases, i hate to meant going back to the second world war, i think president roosevelt did the right thing by helping the british before we got into the war. the other ones, that fbi i doubt was involved in 9/11. i don't even want to talk about the u2. host: a couple of sundays she rode about the potential nuclear treaty with russia. u.s. officials optimistic about a new nuclear treaty with russia. why does this have to be done? guest: the current start treaty runs out december 5. it is important to keep, particularly the verification issue going. i think they may or may not reach some kind of agreement. what they will reach is in agreement on straddling the of period of time between finalizing a treaty which is very complicated and reaching the agreement to keep the current agr

perpetrated the worse act of war on the united states ever and at least in our lifeáimes you can argue pearl harborest events. they murdered, or killed 93 of my friends. i have an issue with this and i don't mind having them in our custody but they should be tried in a military commission and not in a civilian setting to get all the rights from the u.s. constitution. i don't want to argue the facts of pakistan should have held on to them. maybe that's true. i don't know. host: texas on our democrat "t%im, good morning. are you there? one more try. pushed the wrong button. caller: mr. brown, your no longer on fox so. it's president obama sir. and relative to attorney general holders comments to the republican senate meeting basically what he was saying was grow a pair. we're a conáuráutional republican. we our position in a world is the reflection of our application as the constitution. we don't fear it. we want to elaborate on it and show the world that we're indeed a nation of laws and we have no fear whatsoever of trying the most dangerous despica!le human being in open court because that's what

1993 world trade center bombing was supervised by an fbi mull who was surprised -- fdr knew about pearl harbor but we needed it to get. into the get muhammed's nephew was in the 9/11 world trade bombing which is current to what we are dealing with today. guest: that covers a lot of ground and conspiracy theories. in some cases, i hate to meant going back to the second world war, i think president roosevelt did the right thing by helping the british before we got into the war. the other ones, that fbi i doubt was involved in 9/11. i don't even want to talk about the u2. host: a couple of sundays she rode about the potential nuclear treaty with russia. u.s. officials optimistic about a new nuclear treaty with russia. why does this have to be done? guest: the current start treaty runs out december 5. it is important to keep, particularly the verification issue going. i think they may or may not reach some kind of agreement. what they will reach is in agreement on straddling the of period of time between finalizing a treaty which is very complicated and reaching the agreement to keep the current a

announcement could come if it were moved to be on december 7, the anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor announcement that they would require another political calculation. also later that week, the president will be traveling to oslo in order to accept the nobel peace prize. with that, let's get to phone calls. good morning, where are you phoning from? caller: from the san francisco area. a a host: go ahead, please. caller: i would like to say that with respect [unintelligible] i would hate to see in addition to people who are already wealthy. i'd be interested in seeing a $1 surcharge on everybody who travels by plane. i think that would be a reminder that it was through the airline history that we led up to these wars and it would be borne by anyone traveling, you know, visitors, ago, children. it's millions of people travel every day. host: thanks, scott sharon -- michael schear and scott wilson pointed out that the secretary clinton will be traveling. zsa zsa he is joining us from albany, new york. caller: good morning, i was told to mention the comment about the afghanistan policy.

innocent cubans working at the sites will be killed, and we'll go down in history as having committed pearl harbor in reverse, surprise attacks from the air, and so there was some thought that he we should send a notice, and the plan was the president would write a high-level secret note for a high-level emissary to deliver personally to kruschev in the kremlin. i was asked to draft that note that rvel began to weigh in and it sounded like an ultimatum, of course, it was an ultimatum, and it had to to get khrushchev to negotiate until the missile sites were ready and i reported a failure to meet all those conditions although i tried my hand at a note saying, mr. khrushchev, unless you pull those missiles out, we're bombing, and that later was circulated as the so-called second speech when, in fact, there was no second speech drafted for kennedy to give, but we were almost divided into two groups, some for the air strike, followed up by an invasion, or -- and others were for the block cade, which we renamed the quarantine against offensive weapons which was announced in the kennedy speech, parts of