you alluded to pearler, that includes sci information, does that include human intelligence information collected. >> yes. >> from people putting themselves in harm's way to give us information to drive foreign policy. signals intelligence. some of the most sensitive things to understand what al qaeda is doing, what isis is doing. so the former secretary of state had an unauthorized server. and those are your words. in her basement, correct? >> correct. >> who was protecting that information? who was protecting that server? >> well, not much. there was -- a number of different people who were assigned as administrators of the server. >> and at least seven e-mails chains, or eight, that was classified as tssci. >> correct. >> so the former secretary of state, one of the president's most important advisers on foreign policy and national security, had a server in her basement that had information that was collected from our most sensitive assets, and it was not protected by anyone. and that's not a crime? that's outrageous. people are concerned. what does it take for someone to misuse clas