>> commissioner pearlman: thank you. it's nice to see -- i certainly know this neighborhood well. it's nice to see having such -- having the photographs, so you can pretty much get pretty close to what was there, which is great. i do -- as an architect that has to deal with these sort of things, i do sort of agree with the project sponsor about, do we need a mock-up for, you know -- what are we looking at a mock-up for if there are good, architectural details because nearly all of this would be wood construction and then painted. so if the detailing is clear and there's profiles and sections, could you -- thank you. >> sure. the request for the mock-up was to ensure that the details, trim depth, is a good quality as well as the finishes of the materials. and so the ones we've identified include for the storefront windows. our intent is no to the have a full-scale mockup and select elements that could be further identified by staff. >> the reason we decided on a condition is because there is so much reconstruction that needs to occur at this building that we've seen a variety of in

commissioner pearlman. >> commissioner pearlman: thank you. can you address -- i'm confused about why -- it does feel like the legislation was rushed and, what was the involvement of the planning department and you in particular, your group in particular, relative to the supervisors office. why are we in this position where just after this has been signed into law, all of a sudden, it's, oh, there are problems with it. can you address that? >> preservation staff. the planning department staff, myself, diego, tim frye, did work with the supervisors office in which we were invited to several meetings to discuss drafts, various drafts of the legislation. and mohcd and mowd staffed the meetings as well as other departments. we did give input at the meetings. it was our understanding that the ordinance was very much a moving target, as the drafts we saw multiple drafts. i think we were up to seven or so different versions of the legislation. and we were awaitiwaiting for t wheel to stop so we with have a final piece of legislation, a final draft to

welcome, wendy pearlman. >> thank you. [applause] >> so to begin our conversation i wanted to ask you why did you come to write we crossed a bridge and it trembled? >> i have been in middle east since abroad, traveling in and out of the airport, so when uprising began in 2011, like most people on the planet captivated by slow of people's power, people going into the streets and as people filed in libya, many people at the time, syria is a kingdom of silence, syrian regime is too strong, the population is too intimidated by history of state violence, people might rise up everywhere else in the air world but not syria. so when syrians defy those expectations, both outside observer and many times own expectations of the likelihood of protests in their country i really we wanted to know how and why, most of all, i wanted to know what it felt like for people to go out and protest especially going out to protest for the first time and i figured that there was no better way to find out what was bringing people to protest than to

i am personally offended by this i've seen ron pearlman attend a charity event and now i know years later that as all for show and all for self-gain because when push comes to shove he acts absolutely with disgust, towards a good friend of mine who i promise you had no interest in being in the spotlight to begin with. that young man served his country honorably since the day he became an adult and joined the marine corps. he's given half his body for this country and for them to attack him with no evidence no facts nothing more than sarcasm is completely disgusting and you want to go after a double amputee come after me i've put myself out there. liz: so mr. gartner is an amputee as well? >> a double above the knee who probably suffered as bad or worse injuries with me. i recovered with him. he's an honorable man who keeps his mouth shut and nose down when he works hard every single day when he shouldn't have to for his country and protection and for anyone to go after him or those like him is disgusting, shameful, and completely without any type of character and i would love for you to c

. >> you know, i didn't even have a chance to see her tweet before i read ron pearlman's tweet.charity events i used to organize. now i know that must have been for personal gain. one of the things being lost here is the iron cross is a symbol our military uses today. almost every branch of service has an iron cross badge for those that qualify with a rifle. to even jump to that conclusion iron cross that too is ridiculous. looking for a way to attack people doing their job ice agents first attempt at compassion. they are not there to trying to put them in handcuffs and treat them badly. first ones there to offer them water and try to figure this problem out. those are people that volunteer to put their lives on the line for this country just like justin gaertner. if you have a problem with politicians, attack them. but to put out info graphic on how to relationship an ice agent's heart out. these people are disgusting and too emotional to be part of the conversation. they need to shut this out and let the adults in the room. steve: antifa shared the names and photos of 1600 ice