we're joined by david pearlstein and jennifer fielding. welcome. >> the two books that are very different, and yet connected. the first is nonfiction. gods others, inter- a lot -- israelites. these are 25 stories about non- israelite characters in the bible who have encounters with god, either direct or historically. and they range from, abraham, to job, who was not an israelite. the other is a novel, slick. it is a contemporary jew political satire of the middle east. and it ties in to the protagonist being jewish. although he never found that out until he was 40. >> jennifer. >> my book is a memoir. and it is -- have poetry and have personal story. i am honored to have been published by capra press. it started in 1969. and they are just relaunching with my memoir. and my memoir is divided into seven sections. what i call, family -- family of origin. marriage, children, body, faith, outside of the outside world, and work. and then there is a prologue and epilogue that sort of cup it. it is a book about love. it is a book about thankfulnes