. >> rick pearlstine, who lives in nixon land?> well, in my book we all live in nixonland but with obama it's a open question. we have two mutually different groups of americans who hate each other, left and right, red and blue that one side barely considers the other side american at all. and a big part of barack obama's appeal or at least his attempted appeal was to transcend just that sort of thinking now whether that will work or not is really the open question of his administration. i mean, he did, you know, pass a stimulus bill with zero republican votes and he's still being called a socialist. so, you know, it's a way to think about our history going forward. are we still living in that radically bifurcated mutual mode of recrimination that we saw that evolved with richard nixon in the 1960s. >> so did -- how did it evolve during richard nixon and was he partially responsible in your view? >> he was both -- he didn't create the wave but he surfed the wave. in the '60s social movements became patient and more violent, large