we have a tweet -- host: pedro de costa, explain the numbers. >guest: could argue the real number is 15% in the sense that you have another figure that discouraged workers are put in. people who stopped looking. thepoint isr great in sense it is higher. we are not at 30%. that is the answer. as far as unemployment benefits are concerned, there are two different sides. there are people who see benefits as a kind of automatic stable. they kicked in when times are hard. they expire as the economy improves. we have had such a slow recovery that congress has been forced to extend benefits to many people on an emergency basis. there are those who say that unemployment benefits discourage people from looking for work. if you're getting checks from the government, you do not need to go look for work. i think that given the relatively meager amounts you are getting, it is not a major incentive for you to sit at home. host: jude is in missouri. republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i like to stipulate -- i'm a moderate republican. i often sit in

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