the peer review has already signed off of it. i am going to turn it over to run -- to joe, and then to ron on why the process should stop here tonight. >> i have two minutes, is that right? ok. so we right away did a check based on the maximum sheer force that can be delivered into a column. my understanding is that mike did that as well early on. there have been some new runs to answer the questions of the reply brief, but the basic question of whether these things were flexionally controlled were part of the comments in the original peer review, and it was checked by looking at the maximum force that could be delivered. we did that in our office with the assumptions we like to use. we concluded that it was well governed. i am sure that ron concluded the same as well and did the same calculation. we also, by the way, ran an analysis with our preferred assumptions just to superimpose one more squiggling lines on a bunch of squiggley lines. we changed a lot of things according to our own professional judgment. if you ask for one m

i am familiar with the peer review process and i have done about 30 peer reviews. i have been an engineer and i put my stamp on construction projects. i got involved in this project when i was asked to be had another pair of eyes looking at the safety of the project. i have been involved in peer reviews in san francisco. i can answer some questions about that. i also answered the question that the appellate raised about the issue of does this defy common sense that you can add an addition to this building. the short answer is that whether this is surprising to you, this is not just based on looking at the building but on careful engineering analysis to see whether a building can or cannot take this edition. the engineer of record has says that this can. this has been confirmed by myself and others. regarding the specific issues such as the energy dissipation and the computer model and things like that, we have reviewed that carefully since getting the reply a couple of days ago. i am not sure why the appellant thinks that this was not checked before. if you look at

we use a peer-based approach. our longer term vision with our partners is to have youth go through the program. there is 27 young adults in the program right now. once they go through it, they will come on board like peer educators. they kind of talk and precipitate in conversations. we have a member of our staff who is available to go out and he has gone through this himself and is in recovery. so he experienced that in his 20's. using a peer-based approach to talk about it is key. >> for a family highly involved in the process, do they know kind of treatments going on and not only the family that knows but the young client as well. there is also multi-family group therapy so there are other groups that are experiencing the same thing can know challenges, positive outcomes of what's going on. so they build a supportive network without going through the program. >> how are you funded? >> through community health behavioral services through the mental services act. and family service agency is the lead contractor s

comfortable also relying upon those peer review processes. it has been suggested that a rerun be done, or that maybe there be some modification of this particular permit to codify or to memorialize a sill cut. i am going to rely on mr. korn field that that is not necessary. i feel like it would be highly prejudicial to the project sponsor. my decision to uphold this permit, which ultimately i will do, is not based upon anything having to do with jobs, but hard to ignore the fact that we have such high unemployment in the building trades in san francisco. here comes a project that has met peer review standards that is going to provide jobs makes me want to enthusiastically embrace this particular project. >> i would like to echo some of the comments of commissioner garcia. i think i focused my concerns on this when reading the briefs and listening to the testimony on process as well. i think after hearing testimony, i feel satisfied that sufficient process in the peer review has been done. if you have the capacity -- any advocate will retain a

the peer review process appears to have been fairly complete. usually structural engineers don't have a problem sharing their information. in this particular instance, it didn't quite happen as compared to many other instances i have been involved in. i am prepared to uphold the permit. >> earlier this evening as some of you were here, someone in public comment raise the issue about certain members of this board and whether or not we were qualified to be up here, and suggested that we were rubber stamps for various agencies of the city that appear before us on a regular basis. a lot of times it is alan use issues, but we also deal with public health, public works, the police department and entertainment. i imagine that some of the representatives of those various city agencies that appear before us were amused to think that we are rubber stamps of some agency because we have given them over the years a fair amount of opposition, modifying some of the things that have come before you, some of the permits. a point was brought up that what was befo

the biggest supports that our organization does, connecticut turning to youth and families, we do peer-to-peer support, you know, and we do from a lived experience perspective. so my family can support another family on how we accessed the system and how we kind of talked to same of how to access state benefits and a young person in recovery knows how to fill out the form down at the social service office to get you on services to access, you know, a bed, you know, there's also that in between. a lot of those things take weeks sometimes. and, you know, what do you do in between? if there's a critical time and there's a lot community-based peer support out there, you know, mutual support groups or, you know, online stuff where people can connect with people and live recovery experience so that way they at least have some social support, you know, if they're in need of treatment. and then there's also a lot of young people who may not need, you know, residential treatment and they might be better suited to stay at home or to be in the community and just, you know, work on the recovery from that

san francisco pier court is a city funded peer to peer restorative justice program that provides leadershipies and restorers -- a sort of opportunities to actions in the community rather than advancing through the justice system. restorative justice also gives a strong role to the community in promoting offender accountability and community safety rather than a more punitive approach focused on punishment and deterrence. in the past two years, the board has participated in national youth court month by recognizing the youth that volunteer with the san francisco peer court. today, supervisor mar and i have invited the 23 young men and women who are serving this year to be honored. supervisor mar, do you have anything to add? supervisor mar: i was going to say, the 23 of you and the many hundreds of others that have come through the program are really true community-based example of restorative justice but also youth empowerment and you are the leaders of tomorrow and today. thank you so much for your great work over the years and to tony, as well. >> we could call up tony who is the program

peer 29 moved and it is not peer 29 anymore. definitely a suspicious fire. kraig debro, ktvu channel 2 news. >> jerry brown's campaign is apologizing to his republican rival in the governor's race. an audio recording captured a conversation between brown and one of his aids where one of them calls meg whitman a whore, it is unclear who made the excellent but the person was implying she sold out to special interests. it happened when brown left a phone message for the police union asking for its endorsement. he thought he had disconnected the phone call but a private conversation between brown and some of his staff was still being recorded. >> -- whore -- [ inaudible ] >> -- could have used that -- >> -- secret deal to protect -- [ inaudible ] >> a spokesman for meg whitman said while it is hard to make out the words on the tape and who said what, this is an insult to both whitman and to the women of california. >>> senator barbara boxer made a campaign stop today at a small business in oakland. boxer touted the visit to the corporation as part of her efforts

>> well, i found out that some of the peers -- of his peers called him faggot or called him just anti-gay slurs, and to hear from my -- from my view, it really hurts, because my brother wasn't any of those things. he didn't really classify himself as being gay, so i can understand the level of hurt and pain that he was probably going through. >> dr. phil, when you hear this, it seems like we're seeing more and more, i mean just in the last couple weeks, we've seen a number of kids take their own lives. we're talking 13-year-old children, 11-year-old children, in carl's case. >> it is the loneliest time a child -- can you imagine the leadup to how bad it has to get for a child to take their own life? to even know what that means, to contemplate and plan out taking their own life. they're too alone because the adults are not tuned in enough to how terrible and how violent this is, just because it's all on the internet, in addition to what's on at school. you know, we used to have schoolyard bullies. but now they go home with the kid. they get in the kid's room, and there's nowhere to escape

he was not recognized, no peer review. if that happened today, if that was submitted by a maverick scientist today, it would go right in the trash can and we wouldn't get any review, is that true or false? >> true. >> isn't that a horrible state of affairs? >> but the specialization is so great now that you can't do this science. >> there's a way out, is there not? what's the way out? to argue that there will be another einstein. >> you can clone him. >> clone einstein? >> from the brain. >> no, that's not the way out. it's interesting, i hadn't thought of that. >> what's the other one? >> the net. the internet. the internet, you don't need any peer review. you get out there and sooner or later, i think we'll produce another einstein. i think the odds are not great that we will, but i think we will. >> the problem there is separating. >> it will emerge. >> possibly. >> i want to take note once israel was founded, he was a supporter of israel. >> that's absolutely right. >> whether he feared nationalistic tendencies broadly

>> well, i found out that some of the peers -- of his peers called him faggot or just anti-gay slurs, and to hear from my -- from my view, it really hurts, because my brother wasn't any of those things. he didn't really classify himself as being gay, so i can understand the level of hurt and pain that he was probably going through. >> dr. phil, when you hear this, it seems like we're seeing more and more, just in the last couple weeks, we've seen a number of kids take their own lives. we're talking 13-year-old children, 11-year-old children, in carl's case. >> it is the loneliest time, a child. can you imagine the leadup to how bad it has to get for a child to take their own life? to even know what that means, to contemplate and plan out, taking their own life. they're too alone because the adults are not tuned in enough to how terrible and how violent this is, just because it's all on the internet, in addition to what's on at school. we used to have schoolyard bullies. but now they go home with the kid. they get in the kid's room, and there's nowhere to escape. >> we're going to focu

. >> reporter: joe reached out to lending club, an on-line peer to peer service and got his money in less than two weeks. >> someone from california gives $25, someone from alaska or florida gives $75 and before you know it you are up to $15,000. >> reporter: ages ago, neighbors were the community bank and there is a rebirth of that kind of transaction through peer lending. >> it's not paid to a nameless faceless bank. they know there is a real person on the other end. the same for investors. >> reporter: the approach is simple. credit worthy borrowers get low interest rates and investors see big returns. peer lending is different from banks because they aren't putting all of their eggs in to your basket. the people who invest in you get to spread out their risk, putting a few eggs in to several baskets. you get your money from many sources, and by giving only small amounts, investors reduce their overall risk. >> i have 899 that are in some state of being paid back and current. >> reporter: don joined the club 18 months ago. for him the stories make all the difference. >> we like to

they are also more tune to the demands of their peer group.o they're more likely to make impulsive decisions and all of those things affect recovery and sobriety. people who suffer from drug or alcohol addiction sometimes say hurtful things. they drive the people who love them most away. if you know someone who suffers from drug or alcohol addiction, listen; try to hear what they are really saying; know that there is hope and help them find their voice again. for drug or alcohol treatment referral for you or someone you know, call 1-800-662-help; brought to you by the u.s. department of health and human services. how was school today? how was school today? your session go alright? you have a good session? want to go to a game with me? i got tickets to the game. talk with the kids in your life about drugs and alcohol and if they're in treatment or recovery, support them, even if you have to practice. i am so proud of you. for drugs and alcohol information and treatment referral, call 1-800-622-help. [music] working as a documentary film-maker w

interaction where they're non-traditional approaches, but that, creating that peer-to-peer interaction, i think is just so critical. now it's not a slight on the academics or the, the clinical or the treatment professional, but there's that empathy factor between one person that has experienced this helping another person. and i think we need to promote more of that. so i'm, i'm a big believer that money isn't the answer to everything, but i believe that samhsa hit on something when they were funding those type of programs. and in doing so, those individuals that are helping each other, maybe they can help each other on the language front as well as how do they view themselves...absolutely. ...and how do i want to go back to john, john, talk to me about some of the articles where people can access more information, if i wanted to learn more about this. you mentioned that you had authored some articles that may be helpful. well yeah the, you know the question is, is which terms? if we're not going to use certain terms, what terms should we recommend and then advocate for? i know daphne

>> well, i found out that some of the peers -- of his peers called him faggot or called him just anti-gay slurs, and to hear from my -- from my view, it really hurts, because my brother wasn't any of those things. he didn't really classify himself as being gay, so i can understand the level of hurt and pain that he was probably going through. >> dr. phil, when you hear this, it seems like we're seeing more and more, i mean just in the last couple weeks, we've seen a number of kids take their own lives. we're talking 13-year-old children, 11-year-old children, in carl's case. >> it is the loneliest time a child -- can you imagine the leadup to how bad it has to get for a child to take their own life? to even know what that means, to contemplate and plan out taking their own life. they're too alone because the adults are not tuned in enough to how terrible and how violent this is, just because it's all on the internet, in addition to what's on at school. you know, we used to have schoolyard bullies. but now they go home with the kid. they get in the kid's room, and there's nowhere to escape

i think the american culture in reality shows would rather see a peer lose weight or peer fall thenor go on and island see a fictional version of that, because if the peer trips and falls and hurts himself, the person at home feels better that they didn't. the fantasy of fictional characters is not as rewarding for people. i do not know why. i think that may be why reality shows are amazingly successful now. i think a lot of it has to do with that. why think a lot has to do with schadenfreude. you have someone like you have a bad day. it is better than seeing a character have a bad day. tavis: if you are right, that would answer -- it says to me what i have been thinking about. that is why reality television has done so well and white soap operas are getting canceled. -- andwh ehy soap operas are getting canceled. >> comedy is a little different. in comedy, it is a release for people. you have to make them laugh. in bad times in good times, comedy always works. the procedure as and rohm & hoss are a little tougher. als and dramasre rul are a little tougher. they are having trouble. ta

has agreed to make cuts in order to allow the more lateral movement, it has that happened after the peer review? >> we are talking about concessions as far as i understand. i am assuming that is something that they have agreed to in the past 10 days because only in the past 10 days we have been in the meeting to allow us to examine this data so we can explain what we are looking for in terms of modifications to the structure of the design so that this will have a minimum structural safety. >> the reason i am asking is that if it happens afterwards that this is raising some doubt about the quality and scope of the peer review in the first place. >> we have made the issue to you pretty clearly. i do suggest that if the data will be submitted and they have to rerun the data and they agreed that this has to be done, this should be reviewed. there is no reason why this should be reviewed and i don't think that it will take very long to reconvene. >> i have a question. to clarify what you have reviewed. course i would have to ask about this. i am not an engineer. my firm turned this stuff over