this pegasus gambler been created by around. oh, actually we would never have the end of the this is the threats to privacy, democracy, and all that kind of thing. because of course, because need to but i think chris lee, the most detrimental aspects of how it will have a chilling effect from civil society in the middle east. because people are worried about being watched. they'll behave in a way that the same with them actually being watched and discouraged, janice, actors, etc. on being critical if there is jane and doing the best of journalism to, to nicea now, which has been in political turmoil ever since. the president declared a state of emergency there. what critics are calling to flow. phillips has been tracking the impact on the news media, including this network al jazeera. it started last sunday. richard when the president said fire the prime minister unsuspended parliament. after weeks of protests over the government handling of the economy and colbert, 19 the next day plainclothes officers entered algae. there is b

and the software that governments can buy is called pegasus. it is the power to extract your contacts, your messages, photos, movements, and more without you ever knowing. recently, a group of newspapers in human rights groups got together to expose just how insidious the spying has become. the investigation found that it's being used against human rights activists against business leaders, heads of state and other government officials, politicians, and journalists all over the world. so how pervasive is this digital surveillance, and what do we do to turn the tables on those watching us jamal cas shoji was monitored by this very software. so to his fiance, or the lives of social activists in journalist today and danger, as they agitate to change the world or try to reveal the truth. today we're talking with 3 experts you've been focusing on this threat posed by pegasus data priest is a reporter for the washington post, and she's the co author of a series of investigative pieces known as the pegasus project, which found the spyware is being use

which means the pegasus story isn't just about surveillance. the spyware is a form of diplomatic currency. the israeli government spends to make new friends and forge new alliances through technology whose roots traced back to israel's military. and it's surveillance of palestinians with the israeli tech sector. it is based quite a lot on the alumni of the elite israeli technological that these people were trained by the best and use during their military service to surveil palestine. in a lot of times they use the beta they gathered in order to explore it or to use against palestinians in order to come out with additional information. it's no coincidence that israel has the highest surveillance companies per capita in the world. it's also not a coincidence that 80 percent of founders of israel cybersecurity companies come from the israeli military establishment and particularly from the idea of intelligence, the palestinian territories, and the palestinian people have been effectively a testing ground for israeli technologies. and then we see

and so pegasus spyware. so that we can find out the links between the journalist and so go mainstream media and the military industrial complex. the persuade, their populations into wars that killed wound or displaced tens of millions of people. i'm not going to encourage spying on journalists or all, i think it's disgusting practice. but it has been going on for quite a long time. you pointed out to the beginning that lawyers inspired or gone by a private contractor. so could security company out of spain in the embassy, when julia massage was there. but on top of that, when there was a lot of journalists came to visit to live. we had several journals with spider on by this company and including because they had to leave their phones with his company for certainly they were used as infiltrated mist, malware and information was expected from him that case because he's in spain. obviously, we don't have guards fighting on journalists either, but you know that the u. k. god, you and your old media partner does

private surveillance companies of revelations about the alleged widespread reach of the so called pegasus spyware, developed by israeli surveillance firm in its own group. the delayed reaction from the media could arguably be linked to the demon zation of where helix found a julian assange, according to the u. n. a still being tortured in h. m. p. bell marsh in london. but is this the latest example of what we're helix exposing were private surveillance for a decade. joining me now from reykjavik in iceland is where helix editor in chief christian robinson. christian, thanks so much for coming on. i'll get to whether i should throw my phone away in a 2nd and to your jail. the co founder julian assigned you in a moment, but what do you make of all these journalists suddenly talking about and so group, when, when you, when you were doing this, i don't know a decade ago, was it? yeah, i mean we did to point out the seriousness of this to 10 years old will tell you, but i mean, i'm not going to say, i'm important story and now i mean they do have evidence of wrongdoing. however, i mean, for t

what should we understand and what has the pegasus spyware revealed?it is my understanding come for people familiar with pegasus spyware, an israeli produced spyware that basically hacks phones, communications. if you look at what occurred in mexico, many of the politicia assassinated mexico over the last year had this pegasus spyware on their phone. my understanding is there is pegasus spyware transcripts available that show collusion over this last year between the cia, the afghan government, between the taliban. what occurred in afghanistan did not occur just in a matter of weeks. this offensive was planned by the taliban full well more than a year. the results have been incredibly successful for the taliban. the question needs to be asked, why is the erican public so i know where of what was actually occurring in afghanist, to get back your point about the media. as we go forward, i think the important thing to do is for the americans to choose the path of supporting the afghans by helping them to root -- rebuild and reconcile. to do that, the mark

kimberly just very quickly on the pegasus spyware. i think is it your understanding that it could be used against all people to track all people in the territory occupies exciting 67 right now. maybe the 1st of all is the way in which of these private israeli and other cybersecurity companies have been able to sell their advanced cyber technology to countries around the world. including many authoritarian countries, has many of these companies, countries are able to use this advance of spyware on their own citizens, particularly with respect to political dissidents. and those engaged in critical journalism. that is a, a great breach of both the right to dissent as well as the right to privacy. you know, the 2nd, you know, it shows that there is virtually no oversight, at least with respect to these really government who has the issue export licenses to these companies, such as, and so to be able to send their spyware abroad. and as a huge gap with respect to that and perhaps suggest that there's been a fair amount of collusion between

private surveillance companies, up to revelations about the ledge. widespread reach of the so called pegasus spyware, developed by israeli surveillance firm in its own group. the delayed reaction from the media could arguably be linked to the demon zation of where helix founded julian s. andre, according to the u. n. a still being tortured in h. m. p. bill marsh in london. but is this the latest example of what we're helix? we've been exposing where private surveillance for a decade. joining me now from reykjavik in iceland is where helix editor in chief christian robinson. christian, thanks so much for coming on. i'll get to whether i should throw my phone away in a 2nd and to your jail. co founder julian assange in a moment. but what do you make of all these journalists suddenly talking about an a so group, when, when you, when you were doing this, i don't know a decade ago, was it? yeah, i mean we did to point out the seriousness of this business to 10 years, almost 10 years. but i mean, i'm going to say, i'm important story and now i mean they do have evidence of wrongdoing. however, i m

if you're targeted by something called pegasus, there's not a lot to do with that until they discoverloit, there's no defense to get this so you don't know what you have because you don't know something is wrong. on the other hand if you're a consumer, about try to stay where stay away from quick bates, don't click on links. don't open stuff you don't one 100% trust. that's how a lot of spyware get on it. dan: for the layman, i obviously don't have the level of sophistication you do about this technology, how would you even know if your phone was infected? from what i've read if you have this spyware on their, they effectively own your phone and can activate the camera, microphone, nobody is comfortable with phones and cameras being activated. better in living room forever, it's a pretty good guess i would think. >> that is the million dollar ticket software out there. the other software if your phone is like it's hitting up its warmth about things slowing down and looking at your data plan and it's going off the roof, there are some things you can look at and there are a lot of tools

and pegasus is attacking the souls to heaven. that's why we are in the middle between the chapel and the museum, this piece of art work is here. it's basically a piece to show that all these souls went to heaven. they paid their final price, and they can go now. but if you look behind us, you can see montsec. so during the battle here, if you could see montsec, the germans could see you. and so that's where our monument is at the top of montsec. but the cemetery and the architectural features and the horticulture features were put in place so you could still see it from the cemetery. that was purposely laid out and designed. we're stepping here. this is the memorial chapel. these are one of the things that happens in the ab and c that i wish i could answer. we understand that this mosaic was created in the united states by an artist. and then transported here and put on the wall by a french artist. how that physically happened, i do not have the answer. i wish i had the answer but i do not know. what you're looking at is an angel

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, accusations that the phones of wealthy business people and celebrities and politicians had this pegasusaudi government, which did have reason to have information about bezos' personal information and leaked those details to the "national enquirer," and that's a conspiracy bezos and his handlers were there's no evidence to suggest it. there have been fbi investigations and the southern district of new york looked into it. as i reviewed those court records and talked to everyone i could, it really did seem like more of a personal family drama, as you mention there in the clips. the brother of bezos' girlfriend leaking some of that information to "the enquirer" which i think was quite rightfully pursuing its own mandate to dig into the personal lives of famous people. that's what it was doing with jeff bezos. >> yeah, and then i want to read from the book. you talk about how they moved the salary, that there was basically bernie sanders with a stop bezos bill and that bezos convenes a meeting to reconsider worker pay under this external pressure and raised the hourly rate across the board

prepare, dan, now that you are a suburbanite that means taking care of the rubber ducky, the floating pegasus of doing that today? >> i don't want to pull a hammy or anything like that. might get my 6-year-old to do it. >> reporter: you know, it's interesting that you use the sports analogy. i was going through my inbox of pictures and came across one from five years ago. check this out. it's when we were celebrating i think the super bowl and there's dan with his patriots hat on there. and he points to the camera with this just confidence of knowing the game so much and that's what i've always admired about you, the amount of confidence and authority you have on topics you know nothing about is really part of your charm. now that we're -- >> i was just pointing because i was trying to figure out if that was an upgraded iphone that they were taking a picture with. >> reporter: and the materialism that you always embrace so wholeheartedly. we'll miss that too. >> that's for sure. >> reporter: just wanted to tease you. i know we only have a couple weeks with you so the fun has just begun. >> we