so, i mean, this is what pegasus is. it's a very invisible spyware that gives access to all the contents of your life, to the people who want to spy on you. so that the worst that could happen to anybody and where you are an investigative journalist working in a regime having sources, who you need to protect, this is of course a catastrophe. >> how long did it take you from receiving the leaked information, 50,000 phone numbers, to publishing the story? >> around one year. around one year. the first part of the work was done within the news room, stories with many of the journalists, staff members of forbidden stories. we were investigating the leak, trying to identify who is behind those, and then working closely with the team of amnesty international and starting to talk to some, to explain what do we have. we were in the middle of the covid crisis and very difficult to travel. so we did some conference call on different platforms to pitch that to "the washington post," to all the newspapers to explain, we really have

but i want to ask this that's specific to the pegasus.you mentioned amnesty international several times during your talk. it seems like their role was crucial in your investigation. how do you navigate the boundary is between activism, which is what amnesty does and journalism, which is what you do. concerning amnesty, we didn't work amnesty international itself. we worked with the security lab of amnesty, and they provided us only technical supports. so that was the boundary didn't have any word and on the editorial of the investigation and so their work was technical but it was crucial we don't have as journalists the expertise they had. so clearly we would not have been able to work and reveal what we did without technical help because they were the only one almost. and citizen lab does the same thing as well. but i think beside amnesty and citizen that nobody has this level of expertise they were the only one who could see traces of pegasus in the film because. they had to work on that for so long. i mean, claudio guarnieri from the s

been infected by pegasus. nobody realized until we publish the pegasus process you were thinkingt of the moments e were dealing with was big. i remember one of the ways we could t discover who was behind the numbers was to crosscheck our numbers -- the phone numbers of our friends, if we could find people in that. very randomly. we have been with people who had been probably spied on he had been working on. and i discovered, he is a journalist a professor of mexican journalists. and at the time i saw his name we were in contact working on the project on mexican journeys, they were assassinated. we were following and pursuing the work and the investigation did on thed murder of a friendf his. we discovered we were on a very sensitive investigation to somebody who might have been spied on it. so at that mom moment you realize how big this is a. how close this is to you. and you're touching something very dangerous. >> so in those moments when you realize that, that you had been exposed to this pegasus software t

but i want to ask this that's specific to the pegasus.you mentioned amnesty international several times during your talk. it seems like their role was crucial in your investigation. how do you navigate the boundary is between activism, which is what amnesty does and journalism, which is what you do. concerning amnesty, we didn't work amnesty international itself. we worked with the security lab of amnesty, and they provided us only technical supports. so that was the boundary didn't have any word and on the editorial of the investigation and so their work was technical but it was crucial we don't have as journalists the expertise they had. so clearly we would not have been able to work and reveal what we did without technical help because they were the only one almost. and citizen lab does the same thing as well. but i think beside amnesty and citizen that nobody has this level of expertise they were the only one who could see traces of pegasus in the film because. they had to work on that for so long. i mean, claudio guarnieri from the s

i think this is important and is tied to the work of pegasus.e crafting the idea for what forgotten stories with the comment was about synthesizing the journalist the danger to journalist and the way that people could understand what the mission of the organization is, which is not a human rights organization it's not competency organization it's protecting journalism by doing journalism. this thing what you mentioned that people often think they can squash a story or incriminating information about themselves, their companies, their governments, by killing the journalist. stories was a brilliant idea because you are saying to people, if you kill that journalist, they've already stored their information with us and we will coordinate to have 18 other r journalists, 50 other journalists in 18 other countries continue the story will be bigger, more people will know about your corruption so with pegasus i think when the story broke it was so huge. introduction for the book is written by rachel maddow and there is something she has in the intro i wa

it was hacked by pegasus on july 29, 2020. management of al-arabiya tv told me that my mobile phone was hacked and he put it on his lips he was working in the field of hacking operations. i contacted one of their representatives and he gave me information about the techniques and degrees and they said that my phone had been hacked at least 6 times. i was targeted because i am a reporter for ali tv. i was targeted because of my close relationship with prominent opponents of the uae . i was targeted and hacked, but few of them are willing to come forward and take their story, so i think. if some of the most prominent let's look at the media organizations of the world, we can find other people who are hacked or targeted, it doesn't matter where you are, wherever you are, you may be targeted by pegasus, whether in the region or outside it , it doesn't matter for this snap software, so the question is with this advanced technology, how can people be sure that their devices are safe from hacking? in the case of picasso, it was diffi

come on the zionist regime pegasus produces one of the most advanced spy software in the world . this issue was first noticed in 2016 and they bought this spy software . whose interests is it used for? we have information about the israeli spy software pegasus, which is very complicated and there is additional information about it. holy cows he doesn't want to allow anyone to talk about it and discuss it. to get information about this spy malware, we have to go through a difficult and difficult way . for several months, the phone of one of the journalists was hacked with the help of a research institute called site zinda and we observed a real investigation. in the country of canada, the investigation of tizen, the first spy software of the zionist regime in 2016, disclosed information about the abusive infrastructure related to the mobile phone of an emirati activist , the information obtained through the phone and the order to arrest a person named ahmed. mansour led to today, we still hit the new technique that worked, it is called gas-burning electricity, it was software that

the glyndebourne pegasus mentorship scheme is a wonderful thing because pegasus 0pera advocates for andrs of colour who don't get opportunities in this opera industry. i find that a lot of these young artists and even more seasoned artists who are not getting the opportunities to hone their craft need a way to do that. it's getting better, but it's still challenging. we're opening up our minds as a society to the idea of there being barriers to people because of their ethnicity or their background or their upbringing. i carry that with great pride, obviously, that i'm sitting here today, being a diverse person. we need to stretch our reach a lot further. it's very, very important that we expose our young talent to the best that the business has to offer. it's a really bespoke programme of coaching opportunities, mentoring opportunities and access to a wide variety of highly skilled professionals that will only add to the young skillsets of these artists. these two young singers performing with pegasus have applied for a place on the mentorship programme with glyndebourne and are eagerly

the zionist regime produces pegasus, which is one of the most advanced spy software in the world. this issue was first noticed in 2016. and they had access, but what is the purpose of producing this software, who does it target with what motivation , and in whose interests is it used? for example, when i was asked about this issue, the zionist regime kept silent because it is like a sacred cow for them and they don't want to allow anyone to talk about it, and they don't have to go the hard way to get information about this spy malware. we spent several months hacking the phone of one of the journalists with the help of a research institute called citizen kakab under the supervision of research laboratory graphics located in canada . held this intelligence company about the abusive infrastructure and the thanks related to the mobile phone of an emirati activist, the information obtained through the phone and its verdict led to the arrest of a person named ahmed mansour, and he is still in prison today. ahmad massoud's phone was used by the hospital, where he is an expert in prison.

this is the pegasus mascot of the football club, slutsk, the choice of character for the word is a reference to the horoscope herman , which we depicted as winged. horse. on the left was the moscot of an american basketball club gave with mamix. the time of our program is ready to answer. once again, let's go. let's play barbells, on the right absolutely right, on the right, the correct answer is the german football coach. the first foreigner at the head of our national team, with whom i worked for 4 years, from the left was from the reichagel from germany. well, now everything is for sure, but in general, it seems to me that they have strengthened their leadership very well. and as they say, let him catch up agree. we continue the baton of the third period together with artyom artyom when we talked with you before programs. i asked him to tell me about some memorable episode in his career. you told a rather interesting story to share it with our viewers. i would say, maybe it was even a case that, uh, playing with partner kirill, we won the belarus premier league championship. yes, and afte

that's oil trading actively by pegasus i say you don't mind you didn't hear to pay for our oil, thanre talking about. why do we need dollars couldn't, because they didn't have it, who didn't have it in the west. no, i'm like our problems. here's class, i'm coming to the store. they tell you, you have it says, no , let me draw you a candy wrapper for a candy wrapper. give away is the buyers problem. but this is even if we are losers, this is still the most important thing, cartoon. so you believe in it, there is no problem with gold. everything was explained to us . gold is not enough. gold is not enough. it cannot provide turnover, this is nonsense, because the question is not that there is not enough of it, but questions about currencies in relation to them, because gold world would be more than enough. if the rate now is not fucking $2,000 an ounce, it's $100,000 an option. how much does he say right now? now the hut itself will begin, in theory, it will rise in it. raise the issue of returning to gold shoes against andrew you now who to say if someone is returning what will be urg

this is the pegasus mascot of the football club, slutsk, the choice of character , by the way, is a referencecoat of arms, which depicts a winged horse on the left, but there was a mask from the american basketball club gave with mamix. the time of our program is ready to answer. once again, let's go. let's play barbells, on the right absolutely right, the right answer is right. this is bernstange, the german football coach. the first foreigner at the head of our national team, with whom i worked for 4 years, from the left was from the reichagel from germany. well, now everything is for sure, but in general, it seems to me that they have strengthened their leadership very well. and as they say, let him catch up agree. we continue the baton of the third period together with artyom artyom when we talked with you before the program. i asked him to tell me about some memorable episode in his career. you told an interesting enough story to share it with our viewers. i would say, maybe it even happened that, uh, playing with partner kirill, we won the championship of belarus, the leagues came out y