>> my name is peggy jones and i have a definite opinion.i think it is not government's job to take care of us. government has taught us for years to depend on the government. look at the people in new orleans after katrina. those people had been taught by the government to wait on the government look what happens when you wait on the government. it is not government's job to take care of us. i which government would teach self reliance and independence. our country wasn't founded with the government that was here to take care of us. it is to protect us from foreign invasion so we can pursue our own happiness. it is not here to give us our happiness in any way, shape or form. certainly not with health care. i look at social security, medicare is about to go bankrupt. [ inaudible ] >> reporter: miss jones was not one of our first five folks we ran into here in arkansas. so as prompted, unedited as we found 'em, took 'em as they came, we take you the viewer to main street in little rock, for their first five. we are on main street in little ro

ilec margaret jones aka peggy seltzer, j2 wrigh and then the one about the anti-muslim flares that wereton and a conservative group. >> guest: that is in a long string of hate crimes. i only listed a small small for-- portion of them in my book. after 20 years they think all these hate crimes usually on college campuses have turned out to be hoaxes. the only surprise about a news showing up on a college campus these days would be a racist. it is always somebody trying to bring attention to racism and anti-semitism sexes them whenever and what is thought to be you know a burgeoning clan movement at columbia university. then the entire nation, i don't know if you remember that there was a professor at columbia i guess about two years ago who was in the middle of the plagiarism investigation. and suddenly lo and behold finds a news on her door and for weeks the entire nation was fixated on this case, and if you had been following the hate crimes for the last 20 years your suspicions within the bin raised, your antenna would have gone up. i think they finally abandoned the investigation fro

jones. i don't know if lori said her name. betty? >> my name is betty. and as peggyentioned i live here in d.c. on pennsylvania avenue. so i had a chance to observe the inaugural day parades the last four times, if you will. and i've had a chance to wave at all of the presidents and first ladies. and so watching the planning for this one was a challenge. but i must confess my thoughts about michelle may have been a little different in that -- after living in d.c. for so long and after working for the federal government, i've had a firsthand look at all of the first ladies and all of the other people around. and i know that when they get in the white house, people are expecting them to act but there's no job description. so that's what i was concerned about when michelle got in the white house. if anything, there's no job description. you're going to have to create your own. but i knew that she would create something that would be good for everyone. so that was -- that was my thoughts for writing. i would like to say, i have a friend here in the white house, chuck hic