and the "wall street journal's" peggy noonan. we'll cover it all, past, present, and future because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: good morning, again. we welcome california congressman darrell issa. he is the chairman of the oversight & government reform committee. friday, mr. chairman, your committee, along with the senate committee, announced you'd start issuing subpoenas soon if you didn't get the documents that you had "from secretary sebelius' department. what exactly are you looking for now? and what is it you hope to find out? >> bob, we're looking for quick answers so that we can, on behalf of the american people, straighten out as much as can be straightepped out that's above the water-- which the web site-- and the 90% that's below the water like an iceberg that are the other problems in obamacare, and just quickly. 2500 counties, almost 68-- almost 60 p58% of those counties only have two or one companies bidding fo

joining us at the table, peggy noonan, columnist for the "wall street journal," and bob woodward, our old friend at the "washington post." peggy, as you sit here and listen to phil retell this story, and tom, what goes through your mind here? >> well, it's a heck of a story. we are 50 years-- we are half a century into the story, and we are still learning new things about it, which is kind of amazing. but i also wondered,aise mentioned a moment ago, i wonder if we were not as a fully functioning nation lucky not to know all of this at the time. you wonder how destabilizing it would have been to have known of the grave doubts and the mischief and in some cases, the dishonesty of people running the united states and running great report of the tragically killed president. in a way, i mean, it's the opposite of these days where we know everything, and that has its own destabilizing effect. >> schieffer: phil writes in his book at one point, dean rusk told the-- who did he tell, the attorney general or somebody to shut down this investigation about trying to find out if it was castro? >>

>> i picked up peggy noonan's book on what ill thought the revolution which was her time in the white house and ronald reagan. i'm almost done with that one. and i'm enjoying rereading. that and my baby name book. is. >> later, run for president? leadership in the house? the senate? >> we'll see. i'm honored to be representing the people here in eastern washington here in congress. i don't have any plans wanting to run for the other offices. >> tonight provide clarity to move the country forward. >> kathy mcmorris roger, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> before congress returns to work this week, we talk to a reporter about what's ahead on capitol hill. >> a short week this week. he writes it floor action blog. one of the things happening on the hill, one of the things for the house next week. >> kaline sebelius will testify on wednesday. she's in the sights of the republicans, the person not only responsible for the website rollout which by all accounts doesn't seem to go well at all. 10% of people trying to find out they cannot sign up. she'll get an earful. she'll be grille

>> i picked up peggy noonan's book on what ill thought the revolution which was her time in the white house and ronald reagan. i'm almost done with that one. and i'm enjoying rereading. that and my baby name book. is. >> later, run for president? leadership in the house? the senate? >> we'll see. i'm honored to be

peggy noonan, david plouffe, dan senor, and paul krugman. welcome to all of you. peggy, let me begin with you, senator graham didn't sugar-coat it all, they're ruining both institutions. yet, there doesn't seem to be a way out? >> yeah, it's fascinating that nobody seems to know where this thing goes and how it ends. i mean, it is a crisis, normally people have a sense of it. i think lindsey graham was very correct when he said we all be better off and the republicans will be better off when this particular shutdown ends. i think, look, people don't like these things. they like it when government works. both parties suffer when stuff like this happens. but the essential point that nobody knows where this goes is the great mystery of this battle. >> and we're getting so close, paul krugman. and republicans do seem to be trying to negotiate, led by mitch mcconnell. >> first of all, i think it's important, it's not exactly october 17th. if we wake up thursday morning and they haven't defaulted yet, that was a false alarm. >> it could hurt before october 17th. >> yeah,

here's an article from peggy noonan from the "wall street journal." now is the time to delay obamacare. the obama administration has an implementation problem. more than any administration in modern error, they know how to talk but have trouble doing. they give speeches about obamacare, but when it's unveiled, what the public sees a village designed by the noted architect rube goldberg. they talk about the case for the action in syria but can't build support in the u.s. foreign policy community, in congress and among the public. recovery summer is always next summer. they're double implementing which of course is the most boring but crucial part of governing. it's not enough to talk, you must perform. there's an odd sense with members of this administration that they think words are actions. maybe that's why they tweet so much. maybe they imagine assad seeing their tweets and musing, ah, upset, so i shall change my entire policy in respect to her motions. that gets us to the real story of last week. this week and the future. the one beyond the shutdow

>> i picked up peggy noonan's book about her time in the white house under ronald reagan and i am almost done with that one. i am enjoying rereading. that and my baby name book which i read almost every night because we are trying to come up with a b names right now. >> no decision yet. >> no. >> what is next for you? any desire to seek higher office, some said you might run for president, leadership in the house? u.s. senate? >> we will see. representingto be the people of eastern washington hearing congress. i don't have any plans to be running for any of those other offices. i am honored to be here. ,'m committed to working hard being the best representative i can be for the people of eastern washington, and then also working with my colleagues around the leadership table to provide important leadership for the republicans in the house right now. hopefully providing some vision and clarity as to where we want to take the country moving forward. >> thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable

think first of all he has to look like a large leader in the "wall street journal" last week, peggy noonan said he looked like a small leader. i mean he's just had a defeat regard syria, the middle east isn't going too well. he needs to show he can do domestic policy. another thing he might want to do in terms of the spirit of conciliation is delay the individual mandate for a year. he's already delayed the employer penalty for a yearp. he's delayed the income verification and he can say all right, i'll let anyone who wants to sign up for obama care sign up. if you want to delay it for a year there won't be any penalties. doesn't seem fair to delay it for the employers and not to delay it for the individuals. >> all good points. thank you very much for joining us. by the way, folks, viewers, listeners, catch john harwood's interview with the president in less than two hours time right here on cnbc. also here on cnbc, is "street signs," three big headlines moving the market, one is fired up, one charged up, one fed up. >> the world's largest bond fund says who cares about the taper. we're f

our friend peggy noonan writes about the possible forced resignation of sebelius.od democratic form and would acknowledge the idea of accountability, someone or some persons failed on a historic level and were removed, it would take some heat off the white house, look, we're doing something. so it's surprising they haven't done it and odd that republicans are clamoring for it. do you think the white house needs a sacrificial lamb for this or are we in a place in politics where that's not necessary anymore? >> i think we're almost at the point where even casual political observers understand the essentially phony nature of so much which passes for indignation in washington. the last time i can recall, one of the only times i can recall a cabinet member removed for policy failure was when george bush cashiered donald rumsfeld. most of the time this is a contest between mutual indignation. i guess the question you would want to ask is do we think that if kathleen sebelius is forced to resign, that's going to make any difference in how quickly if at all this website an

>> guest: i picked up peggy noonan's book on what i've thought of the revolution which was her time in the white house in the ronald reagan -- almost done with that one and i am enjoying reading. that and my baby name book which i read almost every night the dan nugent up with baby names. >> host: no decision yet. >> guest: no. >> host: what is next for you? any desire to seek higher office? someone said you might run for president. leadership in the house for u.s. senate? >> guest: we will see. i am honored to be representing the people of eastern washington in congress. i don't have any plans to be running for any of those other offices. i am honored to be here. i am committed to working hard. being the best representative i can be for the people of washington, working with my colleagues around the leadership table to provide important leadership for the republicans in the house. hopefully providing some vision and clarity as to where we want to take the country moving forward. >> host: rep cathy mcmorris rogers, thank you very much for your time. >> doctor and astrophysicists neil d

>> i picked up peggy noonan's book on what i thought of the revolution which was her time in the whitese under ronald reagan. i am almost done with that one and by men joining rereading it. and then -- will come about and my baby name book. >> so no decision yet? >> no. >> do you have any desire to seek higher office? some have said he might run for president or leadership in the house or u.s. senate. >> we will see to it i am honored to be representing the people of eastern washington here and compress. i don't have any plans to be running for any of those other offices. i'm honored to be here and i am committed to working hard being the best representative i can be for the people of east washington and also working with my colleagues around the leadership table to provide important leadership for the republicans in the house right now hopefully providing some vision and clarity as to where we want to take the country moving forward. >> representative cathy mcmorris rogers. >> thank you. >> that was cathy mcmorris rogers of the lawmakers serving in washington, d.c. part of our america