if you look at the tone of this book and peggy noonan of the wall street general had a call about the book. she points out i'm not bombed during contrary to what the clintons say i'm doing. i'm laying out the facts. that's really what i'm doing and i'm not an attorney. i don't pretend to be an attorney. what i will say however is if you look at some of the recent cases of political prosecution on corruption whether that's in virginia or senator hernandez in new jersey or if you look in oregon with the governor's resignation i would contend from what we know now the fact pattern with the clintons is far more troubling in development then it wasn't any of those cases. that's why think it warrants investigation by either the app ei, the federal prosecutor or the congressional committee with subpoena power. ultimately we need to look at communications. you need to ask serious questions about the flow of funds and the decision she made the secretary of state and how they have benefited those who are giving her family money. >> host: william-ism and lincoln california, democrat. >> caller:

. >> guest: yes i think if you look at the tone of this book as peggy noonan, "the wall street journal" has a call today about the book and she points out it's a very somber tone. contrary to what the clintons claim i am doing i am not making outrageous accusations. i am laying out just the facts. that's what i'm doing. i am not an attorney. i don't pretend to be an attorney. what i will say is if you look at some of the recent cases of political prosecutions on corruption, whether it is in virginia, senator menendez of new jersey or if you look at the case in oregon, i heard the content and that from what we know now the fact pattern with the clintons is far more troubling than it was in any of those cases and that's why i think that this warrants an investigation by either the fbi federal prosecutor because ultimately you need to look at communication and have people under oath and ask serious questions about the flow of the fund and the decisions that were made about the secretary of state and how they benefited those that were giving the family money. >> host: oems in eureka califo

i think the second thing, though, and peggy noonan alluded to this in her piece in "the wall street journalday, people expect from the clintons that you're going to get scandal. what i've encouraged people to do is look at these cases, take the name clinton out of it and ask yourself, would you tolerate this from any other political figure? i think the answer is no. >> well, you know, everybody runs around and says, there's no evidence, there's no evidence. even he says there's no evidence. and i say to myself, you know, you know how many murder cases i tried where i got convictions on circumstantial evidence? it requires a juror to simply connect the dots. now, the state department says they're not going to investigate. we haven't heard from comey and whether the fbi is going to be doing it. who should be doing this? forget the public opinion. >> i agree with you completely. i think the evidence, the fact pattern here is far more compelling than it was in the governor of virginia's case, senator menendez in new jersey or out in oregon, the senator who resigned. the fact pattern is far more

peggy noonan is a cbs news contributor. david ignatious is with "washington post" columnist. and new york frank rich. let me start with you. with is tough week for jeb bush. >> it definitely was. he seemed consistently taken aback by the asking of a question anyone could have told you a year and two years ago going to be primary question of the primary times. it was difficult for him in ways that are almost mysterious. and because i think he showed some discomfort in his answers he sort of opened up the possibility that this will only be the beginning of many questions about things your brother did, would you have done. you know what i mean? so, it was difficult however he deserves i think great credit in this. he's going to the press every day, retaking questions he's being out there doing sit-down interviews. mrs. clinton is doing a silent movie of a campaign which she doesn't feel she has to do those things. i don't think that's a good way to go. and problematic for her down the road. >> schieffer: what do you think, david i would guess at some point here hillary clinton w

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about is this book "clinton cash", digz into clinton global initiative and foreign investments, peggy noonan has an op-ed hitting it pretty hard. she asked a important question, she baseically says if this were anyone other than the clintons would they get away with it? >> but it's not anybody else it's hillary clinton possibly the most vetted person ever to be a major party presidential candidate in the united states. she's been exhaustingly on the political scene for three decades and everybody has an opinion about her and clintons. if you were inclined to think the clintons are shady, then you think they are shady. if you're someone who likes the clintons then you're so accustomed to seeing clinton scandals probably more fake than real on balance when new allegations there goes the right wing media going after the clintons. pz partly a boy who cried wolf. so many fake scandals when they do something that deserves krut scrutiny, it's hard to get -- >> that's a good point. what if they went above and beyond these rules. what if they were really responsible about conflicts of interest would

peggy noonan had an interesting op-ed talking about all of hillary clinton's problems and said for theart they amount to absolutely nothing. isn't that what we're seeing right now and if you measure her up against any of the republicans right now, hillary wins going away. >> she doesn't win going away. it is funny by the way on the match-ups, we always talk about the frontrunners on the republican side if you sort of select them out always scott walker jeb bush, marco rubio. but there is always one guy that matches up better with hillary clinton than any other candidate and it's rand paul. and yet it sort of gets dismissed a little bit. part of it is because he does better with independents and younger voters. but, look i get peggy noonan's ultimate large argument and that goes in to the idea that all of the ways that republicans want to at stack thetack the clinton for many americans, that stuff is bimtuilt in. is there going to be new ideas or new information of a negative sort that will give folks pause if it doesn't given them pause before. and i think ultimately that's the potenti

. >> guest: if you look at the tone of this book and peggy noonan of "the wall street journal" has aolumn today about the book. she points out it is a very somber tone. i'm not on throwing. i am not making outrageous accusations. i am playing not just the facts. that is what i'm doing. i am not an attorney. i don't pretend to be an attorney. what i will say is if you look at the recent cases of political prosecutions on corruption, whether that is in virginia senator menendez in new jersey or if you look at the case in oregon with keith sovereign and his resignation, i would contend what we know now the fact pattern with the clintons is far more troubling and developing that it was in any of those cases. that is why i think this warrants investigation by either the fbi, a federal prosecutor or a congressional committee with subpoena power. ultimatelultimatel y you need to look at communication. you need to have people under oath in a serious questions about the flow of funds and the decisions made a secretary of state and how they benefited those giving her family money. >> host: wil