. >> i think peggy noonan's column in the "wall street journal" hits it on exactly where donald trump and kamala harris find themselves in this very topsy-turvy political season. first of all, peggy writes, "i continue to believe the woman isn't creating a movement but a movement is creating her. and they are showing up. and, man, are they showing up. mr. trump spent most of the week having what a gop strategist told "politico" is a public nervous breakdown. donald trump. and finally, for the first time this week, i thought people were wondering about the impact of mr. trump's age. he is 78. he hasn't been able to focus, make his case. is he, in another irony of 2024, turning into joe biden?" and the split screens have not been good for him at all this week, john. you look at the polls, and you can read these polls that are coming in. it is only august, but there certainly is momentum. but there's also, again, something that we haven't seen from donald trump since 2016, and that is just the complete failings of his political instincts to rise to a moment. >> well, i think you're seein

panel, so let me channel one of the most interesting republican critiques, from the estimable peggy noonan of "the wall street journal." here is what peggy wrote, "she will be perceived by many voters as further to the left than they want to go. one of the reasons democrats had such unity is that the progressives won a struggle and the party. that is where the rising power in the party is, and ms harris. is from that rising power." does peggy noonan have a point? is the harris ticket's folk -- vulnerability, one that mr. trump is playing on, being a bunch of dangerous leftist radicals? elaine: i think what needs to be seen here is the full context, that there has been somewhat of a shift to the left in the democratic party, certainly since the era when bill galston and i were hammering the democratic party to not be too far to the left because they kept losing elections. that is because the whole country has gone there. for instance, i can remember so clearly the 1992 clinton campaign, he gave one event on gay rights, and it was carefully timed to be at 11:30 at night, because back then th

greatest and latest example of just how unprepared he has to deal with with kamala harris and peggy noonan, by the way, who's reagan speech writer and a terrific column has had another great line about what's happening here. >> and when she said it's not so much that kamala harris created a movement there's a movement created her to me that i think that really captures what's going on, which is there's this burst of pent up enthusiasm that's been going on for the last eight years really since trump came on the scene and by the way, i think this is going to be a night when or a week when kamala harris sustain not only on year-old also shoulders, but also on hillary clinton's shoulders. and again, that's part of that pent up. >> all those hillary people who thought they're going to win eight years ago, we're going to be just blowing up right? >> well, and to that point, kate, i mean, we are going to see hillary clinton, joe biden on stage tonight in a real, it's another contrast, quite candidly with republicans. yeah absolutely. and i agree with mark, but i also think you have to be the pers

peggy noonan's column in the wall street journal hits it on were donald trump and kamala harris find eggy writes, "i continue to believe the woman isn't creating a movement about a movement is creating her and they are showing up. man are they showing up. " mr. trump spent most of the be kevin what a gop strategist said is a "public nervous breakdown." that's donald trump. finally, another telling quote from peggy, and this is fascinating, "for the first time this week i thought people were wondering about the impact of mr. trump's age. he is 78. he hasn't been able to focus, make his case. is he, in another irony of 2024, turning into joe biden?" the split screens have not been good for him at all this week, john. you look at the polls, you can read these holes that are coming in and it is only august but there certainly is momentum. but, there's also, again, something we haven't seen from donald trump since 2016 and that is the complete feelings of his political instincts to rise to a moment. >> i think you are seeing fear, joe, above of anything else. the last bit of sound were you

i love peggy noonan. i have met her. i think her books are great.r. as a matter of fact, it's funny, bret, i heard a number of people saying last night that did peggy write kamala's speech because she was sounding a little reaganesque if you will at times. look, i don't want to give a foreshadowing of any winners or losers coming up the pike. but, you know, patriotism, being proud to be an american doesn't belong to any one candidate and doesn't belong to any one person. so, you might say we're not going back. my party says. but i think also, we are taking back that idea that we as democrats may not be because we wear blue and not red it is coming up. friday lightening round. plus, a special dnc edition of winners and losers and "notable quotables." ♪ and show off clearer skin and less itch with dupixent, the #1 prescribed biologic by dermatologists and allergists, that helps heal your skin from within. serious allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems such as eye pain or vision changes inc

. >> quite the opposite take from conservative columnist peggy noonan in "the wall street journal".te, for the first time this week i thought people were wondering about the impact of mr. trump's age. he is 78. he hasn't been able to focus, make his case. is he in another irony of 2024 turning into joe biden? joining me now, "new york times" chief white house correspondent and msnbc political analyst, peter baker. i wonder, peter, from what you're hearing, does the trump campaign believe it can win in 2024 using the same strategy in 2020 when they lost? >> well, it depends who you talk to, of course. the people around trump have ideas about how he how old proceed and then there's trump himself, right? everybody understands if you work for trump that he's going to run the campaign the way he wants to. he may listen to advice. he may momentarily, you know, show some discipline one way or the other. in the end trump is going to be trump. he wants to go back to the golden oldies. yesterday's press conference felt like a repeat of things we've heard for nine or ten years. it was the same

i mean, that's peggy noonan in the wall street journal yeah. >> and i don't think it's that stark.iden is rarely seen in public when he does it's weird. >> i mean, he was just on cbs, but yeah. >> go ahead. okay. yeah. it was super weird i mean, a lot of mumbling, a lot of weird statements, lot of misstatements. i mean, i look i think trump is capable. he's he's competent to go out there and campaign. he is going to campaign more vigorously than biden ever was to me, the core question is, what are you saying? i mean, whether you're doing it in a rally or an interview or whatever you're doing, what are you saying? and the american people have to know what he's running on versus what she's running on. she's not running on anything. she's running on running away from her past positions. but he has to make the case. he had it down against biden strength versus weakness. it was simple. everybody got it. everybody knew it in this case, we harris are just running on. i am not trump trump has to run on something better than that and define her as something worse than that. and that that's

. >> a joyful one and, john heilman, going back to peggy noonan and peggy's column this morning may answermp spent less than a week having what a gop strategist told politico as a public nervous breakdown. for the first time this week, peggy writes, i thought we were wondering about the impact of mr. trump's age. he is 78. he hasn't been able to focus. he hasn't been able to make his case. is he and another irony of 2024 turning into joe biden? we should be so lucky if he were turning into joe biden. i guess the better way, to put that in my terms is, is he now going to be a got it will be judged as too old for the campaign for the presidency? and the question that you raised with me off-line is this -- why is it that donald trump has only done one swing state rally in the past six days, and how many has he done since the convention? why? is he afraid that the crowds are going to continue to decrease and the kamala crowds will continue to increase? why is he afraid to go out there? >> yeah. we have been trying to count. i, right now without having a comprehensive calendar, count three. it'

it's nice to see peggy noonan recognizing that because we heard a lot of platitudes but no real policy than what were speculating that she is backing bidens budget with the tax increases and a couple of things that she said but no cohesive strategy on an agenda. >> exactly when we start to get the specific ideas. if it's good to be a continuation of president bidens proposal when it comes to taxes. remember in march he gave us his budget blueprint and it was expensive. maria: we are just getting started, quick rate, jay powell speaking at the jackson hole conference this morning. investors are waiting to hear more where the central bank stands on rate cuts and whether quarter-point cut in september expected is going to be enough. ken mahoney is here with more on that. don't miss it, you are watching "mornings with maria" on live on fox business. we'll be right back. ♪ did i read this? did i get eggs? where are my keys? memory and thinking issues keep piling up? it may be due to a buildup of amyloid plaques in the brain. visit morethannormalaging.com (marci) so, how long have you lived

in the wall street journal, peggy noonan wrote that democrats stole the idea of faith and patriotism, which are traditionally republican themes . do you think they stole them? >> i know that faith and patriotism, are they republican? i think they stole that from us. you know, if you think about it, they have painted us as unpatriotic, as not caring about our faith, and that is never been true. and this convention hopefully stop that. and we should all think adam kinsinger. because when he stood up and he said guess what? i'm a republican. i now know democrats, and they are very patriotic. and you see it over and over again, through service in the country in the military, but, you know, i think to suggest that we stole it from the republicans, what, is that something that they own? they don't own the flag, they don't own patriotism, and they certainly don't own my church. so, too bad. >> heidi, what is your take on the vp candidate, tim walz? freedom, family, and football. those were certainly his themes wednesday night. >> well, i suppose they are going to accuse us of taking football

victoria, peggy noonan writes about vice president's acceptance speech at the dnc ads the biggest -- as the biggest speech of her life and writes, quote, here is her big opportunity. nobody knows how she thinks. we don't really know what she thinks either. but how she thinks is more interesting and important. so far her story is her persona, child of immigrants, mixed race, a woman who's risen high. what else is in there? what does she see when she thinks of the word "america"? what is its story, and does she understand it? how will she add to it? some interesting concepts. what do you think, victoria, her speech needs to be about? >> so first of all, it's an introduction, jose. folks know she is the vice president, but they really don't know kamala harris for the most part. this is such an important part just in terms of connecting with the broader american public. and aside from that, picking up on themes she's already been establishing. number one, one of optimism and forward thinking. we're not going back, and not only are we going forward, but i feel really good about where we'r

and peggy noonan wrote something the kind of quick me a little bit. she said, quote, the democrats stole traditional republican themes of faith and patriotism and claim them as their own. she wrote that in a wall street journal opinion piece, but david simon clapped back and said those things are rations, peggy, they are available to all. if republicans look around for their share they will find them in the gutter, right where the republicans tossed them. david, talk about patriotism being replaced. >> katie, remarkable. republicans of all and it did this using her patriotism kind of reflexively, the flag, they felt like they owned it. the faith community they thought was theirs. and what you saw in today's democratic party this week in the democratic convention is a different look and feel for the democratic coalition. and it is critically important. i think most important is to recognize the democratic party has not abandoned its true beliefs, is progressive pool, its true foundations. but they have embraced the coalition that has been there now for

. >> um, he's referencing pulitzer prize winning columnist for the "wall street journal" peggy noonanwell. let's bring in nbc news political analyst, former u.s. senator claire mccaskill, also former mbs host chris matthews and the cohost of msnbc's the weekend, former senior adviser and chief spokesperson to vice president kamala harris, symone sanders townsend. jonathan weir with us as well. and claire, republicans are all saying the same thing. donald trump needs to talk about the issues, to which donald trump will mock them and say, i am who i am. he's now the popeye defense, and that's what he's always done. i am who i am. this worked for me before. this is going to work for me again. i don't need to listen to people like karl rove or peggy noonan or other people who have been conservative and republicans their entire life. >> yeah, it's worked out so well for him before, he's never won the popular vote. by the way, it's going to get worse before it gets better because he goes there when he's under the most pressure and the most stress. and he can say all he wants that she's easy

and i think it's really, it's a really interesting observation that peggy noonan make to say what she's she wrote that she wasn't sure whether or not harris had actually created the movement or the movement at great at her, meaning, i think that this is pent-up energy it particularly among democrats and independents for this joyous kind of, this joy ride this happening right now, this is just flowing and it's really lightened up with jet fuel because because of the joy factor, which is something i wrote about today in vanity fair. i have to say, first of all, anyone who will tell you in arizona that 105 is okay because it's a dry heat. i say to you know, it's oppressive, but everyone else on this same point i'm mic because it made me think about this. some of the things that have re-energize the base for democrats has been about the absence of a rematch between trump and biden but some of the things that were concerning to voters concerning to trump specifically and concerning to those who are encouraging biden to not run for reelection, or about age and mental fitness. now, harris on t

peggy noonan wrote about the speech. of course, a reagan speechwriter and wall street journal columnist. she said kamala harris speech was fine delivered with assurance, stuck to resume values, life experiences rather than a sharing of her thinking. i'm not sure it advanced her position with those who aren't already with her, she says. there's a small but persistent cloud that follows her, distilled down to the idea that she was swiftly and mysteriously elevated to a position. we don't know everything about. how that happened. people aren't fully comfortable with it. i don't think she succeeded in lightning or removing the cloud your thoughts? i i mean, i don't judging from this room and judging from the coverage of it and how people are reacting, i don't think that people are uncomfortable with how she got there. i think that that was a call from the democratic party. so i disagree there, but i also i've seen her give dozens of speeches in person from her acceptance speech in 2020 to now. that was the best speech she's

triangulation here in a way for harris is between trump and biden in a way this past campaign and peggy noonan got to this, to this morning going to read off my phone. >> we don't have a graphic pay rights. they stole traditional republican themes, faith, patriotism and claim them as their rhone also impressive was the degree to which they cast a magic conjuring sorcery spill in which viewers got the feeling the whole purpose of the democratic party is to break away from a grim and doom laden reigning regime. >> when they've been in charge for the last three-and-a-half years wow, that was interesting that she would write it that way. >> you know, it is true. a couple of things. one is there were two themes throughout this whole week, and we've talked about them already reproductive rights and whether enough kamala harris was strong enough to to be the leader of the armed forces, to be the top law enforcement official here in the country. if you saw her last night, she really did execute that case. in a way that made her agreeable to people, but not scary. right? because that that is the proble

. >> peggy noonan had her calm than wall street journal this morning, brought up something that i think a lot of republicans have been saying quietly over the course last couple of days, which is what is remarkable is how surprised the trump campaign seems to have been by ms harris, why smart people understood joe biden would eventually have to step aside and she was his most likely replacement. >> why have they responded as if as if shock? does mr. trump know that he's fighting for his life but one thing i'll quibble with as lots more people were talking to the president and his team and said, he's not going to drop out because he's saying he's not going to drop out. but that aside it feels like the trump campaign's on the backfoot here. you'll listen, i feel the surprise was how quickly the party unified around kamala harris. >> i think we from our standpoint, we'll we know what the targets have been, jimmy, we've seen the apa file since 2019 it's not a new apple file. maybe have a lot more video errors through that, but we know where she's always stood. what we were what i would say

. >> it was -- again, you look at the event last night and reminded of peggy noonan when she talked about how upbeat he was. >> optimistic. >> writing for ronald regan she learned we cannot allow this to happen. it was never we cannot. draw a line through it and he would say we must get this done. that sort of -- just turn a phrase even in the smallest of things. and people want to be hopeful. this has been a bleak time politically for quite some time. people want to be hopeful. and i will say, chris matthews, again, i will -- just looking back as a former republican but looking back at presidential contests through my lifetime, there's so many times i would see democrats and i would just shake my head. they just -- you know, they're so defensive. they're so nervous. they're always -- democrats until barack obama always seemed to be sort of on their back heel. other than obviously clinton at times. i will say last night it was a joyous event, just absolutely joyous event and when these harris walz fans started chanting u.s.a., u.s.a., u.s.a., i said, okay, we literally have seen sort of a

peggy noonan said this weekend at the end of her editorial that this will be, in the end, a policy electionnd kamala harris starts getting pressed more on policy, whether on the economy or immigration, do you think that she's going to have a trickier time kind of as we move from vibes to substance around policy issues? >> well, i'll address that, but i have to respond to ed luce, who i respect enormously. there was a split in washington between, frankly, the male pundits and women, including african american women, who have been saying a long time the vice president was being underestimated. that was part of the controversy that emerged when david ignatius was calling for the president to step down but was overlooking vice president harris for the stand-in. for women who have been watching her, we recognize she was imperfect and in an extremely difficult job, but it is unfair to say everyone in washington didn't think she was up to it. there was a gender divide. black women who know her have been in her corner a long time, including donna brazile and others, which were angry that so much of

mike barnicle, last night joe biden said, farewell to his party at the convention, and i remember peggy noonansidered, you know, a wimp, when he was considered a loser, when maureen dowd called him everybody's first husband, he was -- i mean just -- he was just ridiculed. couldn't speak well. and there was an extraordinary line in his convention speech, and he said, i don't speak very well. i'm not the most articulate guy in the world. but i hear the quiet people, when they talk. something along those lines. we saw joe biden, who walked slowly, who speaks slowly, who's lost more than a step, who's probably lost more than a step or two even in the past six months, but the joe biden we saw last night history will record not his slow gait, not his stiff arm movements, not him forgetting a word here or there, what history is going to record is, that at this moment t the u.s. economy is stronger than any other economy in the world. at this moment, america's military might more powerful, relative to the rest of the world at any time since the tend of world war ii. that nato has expanded and is stron

we talked about it on friday, in the context of peggy noonan saying maybe trump is turning into biden all of those things are true the reality is that people are starting to focus -- iheard peter baker mention it in passing and i know he's a close observer, we have been seeing the signs of trump's cognitive decline, his psychological infirmities, we've seen them, but not talked about them loudly, for many months now, really except on this show where you and mika have been consistently calling it out. but it is now in sharp relief in the absence of joe biden, with joe biden out of the picture, it's in sharp relief, the national media is starting to notice, and the harris campaign clearly is starting to notice. and one of the things they're focused on is not merely that trump gets confused -- he peddles conspiracy theories, is it jerry brown or another african american california politician, who actually apparently was on a white knuckle helicopter ride with trump. imagine what's going on in trump's head as he's trying to keep facts straight, while he's watching harris and walz go past