cohen is listed as the authorized person on these documents, and stormy daniels is listed as peggy peterson. this appears to be a suit anymor pseudonym. the timing is very significant. remember, this llc according to the waut street journal was created in october of 2016. what this means is all of this went down days before the election. donald trump's lawyer creating an llc to pay off a woman to stay silent about an alleged sexual encounter in the final stretches of the general election. >> m.j. lee, thank you. this is all in the rupert murdock owned "wall street journal." joining us paul callan. delaware llc, this private company, why would someone use this for a payoff? >> delawae has a very liberal scheme to be fendly to corporations to allow them to form these groups. this was called essential consultants, llc. they don't require a complete listing of all the officers of the llp. in the end it's eadifficult to trace it back. >> michael cohen's name is on it. >> if he had you as a lawyer, you'd advice him on this. might not good look, salacious, stormy daniels denies this. anything ille

peggy peterson doesn't exist so it's strange to see an anonymous payment page. it was an attempt to conceal and it's something you never really see. >> this was done in delaware, right? >> yes. >> tell us about delaware. >> it is known to be business friendly, and because of that, it has a reputation among attorney circles of allowing very friendly, anonymous-oriented ways to register a company. he didn't really use the delaware venue to the best of his advantage. he actually put himself in at the beginning of the formation. ultimately people were able to dig through and apparently find his name. he didn't even have to do that. he could have had some kind of legal representative, but at the end of the day, he put donald trump's fingertips all over this botched deal. >> all right. the "wall street journal" doing extensive reporting on this. we'll continue to follow this. guys, thank you very much. >>> one of the president's appointees abruptly resigning after the president covering racist, sexist comments he's made. now he's responding publicly. >>> also we have

in it, the porn star is referred to as peggy peterson, and trump is referred to as david delucia.d the name of the street he grew up on. ( laughter ) tyrone honey bee. tyrone honey bee. >> jon: oh, wow. >> stephen: yeah. and there is some confirmation because at the time, ms. daniels told a friend, "all i'm going to say is i ended up with donald in his hotel room. picture him chasing me around his hotel room in his tighty-whities." ( audience reacts ) first of all: i will not picture that. ( laughter ) you cannot make me. ( laughter ) secondly, i am now picturing it. ( laughter ) damn it. and thirdly, chasing you around in his tighty-whities? that's totally unbelievable. trump can't run. ( laughter ) but despite her earlier statements, ms. daniels now says, "my involvement with donald trump was limited to a few public appearances and nothing more. these stories are not true," which is exactly what i would say if i had sex with donald trump. ( laughter ) and by the way, i did not. ( laughter ) these stories are not true. ( laughter ) we have a great show for you tonight. john lithg

identities of the people involved, the parties used pseudonyms with stormy daniels identified as peggy petersonwe once again asked michael cohen and also the white house for comment on the story, we haven't heard anything back. but joining us is one of the "wall street journal" reporters who broke the story on friday. i knew you would keep working on this where did the money come from thing. i didn't think we'd have you back so soon. you examined the record that is show cohen set up the llc right before the election and move it had money into stormy daniels's lawyer's accounts. if you're able to set up companies that shield your identity, how did you figure that out. >> we thought michael cohen used an llc to pay stormy daniels before we wrote the first story. we had been looking for that llc for some time and through the reporting chain, we were able to learn he used this company, essential consultants, we looked at a lot of llcs and pulled the papers for this one and his name was on there. >> you also found another llc and there was an interesting timing on the dissolution between one llc and

she is peggy peterson and blank to be filled in is david d denison.people can keep the copies, keith davidson, stormy daniel's lawyer and the lawyer for the other party who we now know was michael cohen. >> he has not denied specifically that there was a payment made to stormy daniels. if there was, is that something that could be legally chased? is there a paper trail behind that that could be found? the reason it seems to even matter is because the source of the funds is potentially important. if this is something that ends up having a meaningful effect on the campaign, somebody who paid that for donald trump, for the trump campaign might conceivably been making a the campaign contribution by putting up that $130,000. where's the best way to find out where that came from. >> whether there was an fec violation. if michael dough hcohen paid fo with his own money, i doubt that, karen mcdougal. who was paid by national inquire irto not tell her story, that look maybe like a third party pay. in this case, i know donald trump like to pay for much himself

in it, daniels would be called peggy peterson and trump would be known as david den annadenni. has never denied making the payment. today the full transcript of a 2011 interview with her was published by the gossip magazine in touch in which she spells out details of an alleged sexual encounter with trip ump in 2006. she said one time he told me he was going to give me a condo there because they were building a trump tower there in tampa. experts say there's nothing illegal with establishing secret companies or even paying hush money. >> as long as the case doesn't involve straight up blackmail, there's nothing illegal about trying to intenter into a nondisclosure agreement in exchange for muhush money. >> the first impression would be of course this would have an impact, but we know how many things did not have an impact in this election, particularly the release of the access hollywood tapes. >> trump attorney michael cohen did not reply to our inquiries today about this llc company that he set up here. but he reiterated this week about any allegation of an affair between sto

in it, she would be called peggy peterson and trump would apparently be known as david dennison.use and daniels deny any affair happened and daniels denies getting hush money in a statement sent by cohen. cohen has never denied make thing the payment. the full transcript of an interview with her was pub accomplished by in touch magazine in which she spes out details of trump. she kams trump kept in touch afterward and said she hoped it he could be on the apprentice and one time "he told me he was going to give me a condo there because they were building a trump tower there in tampa." experts say there's nothing illegal paying hush money. >> as long as the case doesn't involve straightout blackmail, there's nothing illegal in exchange for a pavement hush money. >> if her story and possible payoff had been reported in october of 2016, could it have changed the election? >> the first impression would be, of course, this would have an impact. but we know how many things did not have an impact in this election particularly the release of the access hollywood tapes. >> trump attorney m

in it daniels would be called peggy peterson and trump would be known as dave david den son.deny any a fair any happened. and daniels denies getting hush money in a statement sent by cohen. cohen, however, has never denied making the payment. today the full transcript of a 2011 interview with her was published by the gossip magazine in touch in which she spells out details of alleged sexual encounter with trump at a resort in nevada in c he told me he was going to give me a condo there because they were building a trump condo there. she says etches warking shark weeks. sorry, folks, i am just not a fan of sharks and don't worry, they will be around long after we are gone. >> brian, i know you are there, right outside that nondescript building. the associated press, what else, it is pretty stunning that you had to go there to delaware to find this. >> reporter: right. we came here to this nondescript building to try to track this building that michael cohen set up to funnel money. this is really just a registering agency. you are talking about the ap report, the associated pre

cohen is listed as the authorized person on these documents, and stormy daniels is listed as peggy petersonears to be a pseudonym. >> seth: wait, he used a pseudonym for the porn star but not himself? [ light laughter ] the porn star already has a pseudonym. [ laughter ] using a pseudonym for her and not you is like robbing a bank and telling your partner, "here, wear this second mask on top of your first mask. and i'll just cover my face with saran wrap." [ laughter ] of course, by now you've probably heard some of the more sordid details of the alleged affair. like the fact that daniels claimed that her affair with trump included an unusual act. spanking him with a copy of "forbes" magazine. [ laughter ] the spanking came during a series of sexual and romantic encounters with trump and that it involved a copy of "forbes" with trump on the cover. [ light laughter ] that's right. trump got spanked with a "forbes" magazine with his face on it. and this is apparently the issue she's referring to. but it's not just trump's face, check out who else is on the cover. [ laughter ] look at don juni

but stormy daniels appears to come up on that document under a pseudonym and that pseudonym is peggy petersonn and stormy daniels have put out statements. here is what cohen said, he said these rumors have circulated time and again since 2011. president trump once again vehemently denies any such occurrence as has miss daniels. this, of course, doesn't address the alleged payment. now, the statement from stormy daniels says rumors that i have received hush money from donald trump are completely false. if indeed i have a relationship with donald trump, trust me, you wouldn't be reading about it in the news, you would be reading about it in my book. this, of course, seems significant because she doesn't say whether she got money from an llc, she simply says she didn't get money from donald trump himself. seems like both of these statements brianna are pretty carefully worded. >> it sure does. and "in touch weekly" released an interview it about with stormy daniels in 2011. this really kind of contradicts everything she said, everything michael cohen said. tell us about this. >> well, this is an

according to a person familiar with the identified as peggy peterson. in emails to the "journal" last week cohn did not address the payment, but said president trump denies the sexual encounter and declined to discuss the private delaware company and asked the "journal" to quote cease wasting my time. miss clifford did not respond to the paper's request for comment. the white house has denied any sexual encounter took place, michael cohn has not responded to nbc news' request for comments on the "wall street journal" story. >> am i crazy? or any other moment in time this would be a 24/7 news story. think of what that story is. that weeks before the president got elected -- >> and monica lewinsky was 24/7. >> a porn star who allegedly had an affair with donald trump while donald trump, either melania was pregnant or just had the baby and supposedly, yesterday the "post" actually reported that in her documents, said that he -- i'm not just reporting this, he liked to be spanked with a rolled up "fortune" magazine cover with his picture on it. >> i believe