pelham, i think, in early in the week before thanksgiving. indicated that they did not have an opportunity -- would not have an opportunity to submit a response to the staff memorandum and requested that we put it over to give them a chance to do so. and they are to file whatever response they wish by december 12th, as well as mr. warne may file whatever he wishes to supplement his complaint by november 12th. >> december 12th? >> december 12th. >> december 12th, right. turning to agenda item 8, which is ann treboux v. barbara sklar. ms. treboux do you want to provide the commission with your response and comments on the staff's recommendation? >> chair, we had a request for a five-minute break, if we might? >> all right. >> thank you. >> we'll make it a 10-minute break. so 10 [ gavel ] . all right, we'll proceed now with agenda item 8. which is the commission -- ethics commission complaint no. 1617-06 ann treboux v. barbara sklar and ms. treboux you have ten minutes to respond to the staff mem memorandum and recommendation. >> this complaint

pelham, notice was sent to the respondents in this matter? >> yes. >> and is there anyone here from either the planning department or sarah jones, or john rahaim? do i hear a motion from any commissioner? >> before there is a motion -- >> pardon me? >> mr. chairman, before any motion, may i? >> sure. >> i'm trying to think of ceqa law. as i remember ceqa law, if a governmental planning department or some other entity concludes that a project is exempt, at least the custom and practice was there would be a written explanation for it. it would be laid-out in writing. and speaking to mr. grossman's complaint goes beyond my technical prowess as to how this should be done. but the other part seems to be that these deliberations in the planning department, at least hypothetically are conducted orally between employees of the planning department, or some other department of city government. and there ought to be a law that makes them put it in writing. that is what i gleaned from this. and maybe there should. maybe there should, but i always thought

pelham pelham is able to get done this done april 1 22 but in the interim it be there in a teleconference of list on the internet where people can have an idea of who it is that they are asking for. what department they are in so that they can go to the city attorney's office and ask for the city attorney's particular form 700 if required to file. in the case of the board of supervisors, all of our legislative aides are required to file a form 700 but one of them may have a working title of chief of staff. but everybody in the classification has to file. >> i anticipate our labor partners made some questions about producing this publicly on the internet and we will be aching sure they're aware of that. they may wish to weigh in as they have today. on both the question of electronic filing and on the question of why certain individuals are classified or asked to file. >> understood. i don't want to butcher your last name. i just ask supervisor breed how to pronounce it. so we will for the first time ever get your last dime on the record. >> thank you.--. board liaison. yes, thank you for h

pelham pelham is able to get done this done april 1 22 but in the interim it be there in a teleconference of list on the internet where people can have an idea of who it is that they are asking for. what department they are in so that they can go to the city attorney's office and ask for the city attorney's particular form 700 if required to file. in the case of the board of supervisors, all of our legislative aides are required to file a form 700 but one of them may have a working title of chief of staff. but everybody in the classification has to file. >> i anticipate our labor partners made some questions about producing this publicly on the internet and we will be aching sure they're aware of that. they may wish to weigh in as they have today. on both the question of electronic filing and on the question of why certain individuals are classified or asked to file. >> understood. i don't want to butcher your last name. i just ask supervisor breed how to pronounce it. so we will for the first time ever get your last dime on the record. >> thank you.--. board liaison. yes, thank you for h

pelham pelham is able to get done this done april 1 22 but in the interim it be there in a teleconference of list on the internet where people can have an idea of who it is that they are asking for. what department they are in so that they can go to the city attorney's office and ask for the city attorney's particular form 700 if required to file. in the case of the board of supervisors, all of our legislative aides are required to file a form 700 but one of them may have a working title of chief of staff. but everybody in the classification has to file. >> i anticipate our labor partners made some questions about producing this publicly on the internet and we will be aching sure they're aware of that. they may wish to weigh in as they have today. on both the question of electronic filing and on the question of why certain individuals are classified or asked to file. >> understood. i don't want to butcher your last name. i just ask supervisor breed how to pronounce it. so we will for the first time ever get your last dime on the record. >> thank you.--. board liaison. yes, thank you for h

pelham pelham is able to get done this done april 1 22 but in the interim it be there in a teleconference of list on the internet where people can have an idea of who it is that they are asking for. what department they are in so that they can go to the city attorney's office and ask for the city attorney's particular form 700 if required to file. in the case of the board of supervisors, all of our legislative aides are required to file a form 700 but one of them may have a working title of chief of staff. but everybody in the classification has to file. >> i anticipate our labor partners made some questions about producing this publicly on the internet and we will be aching sure they're aware of that. they may wish to weigh in as they have today. on both the question of electronic filing and on the question of why certain individuals are classified or asked to file. >> understood. i don't want to butcher your last name. i just ask supervisor breed how to pronounce it. so we will for the first time ever get your last dime on the record. >> thank you.--. board liaison. yes, thank you for h

pelham pelham is able to get done this done april 1 22 but in the interim it be there in a teleconference of list on the internet where people can have an idea of who it is that they are asking for. what department they are in so that they can go to the city attorney's office and ask for the city attorney's particular form 700 if required to file. in the case of the board of supervisors, all of our legislative aides are required to file a form 700 but one of them may have a working title of chief of staff. but everybody in the classification has to file. >> i anticipate our labor partners made some questions about producing this publicly on the internet and we will be aching sure they're aware of that. they may wish to weigh in as they have today. on both the question of electronic filing and on the question of why certain individuals are classified or asked to file. >> understood. i don't want to butcher your last name. i just ask supervisor breed how to pronounce it. so we will for the first time ever get your last dime on the record. >> thank you.--. board liaison. yes, thank you for h

. >> gordon gecko was not the nicest guy, i get along with pelham, i have a lot of wonderful relationships and even in business, i had a lot of wonderful relationships. gordon gecko is not a good guy. i love what i do, the expression that they used in the movie, agreed is good, great for purposes of a movie, but greed is certainly not good. >> well, we're going to get a chance in a couple of seconds, i talked to david k. johnson, i have been interviewing this fellow, trump for so many years. and it's amazing back to know him before he did the stuff that offended so many people. the charge that president obama was born in some other country and somehow snuck into the presidency. it was a different kettle of fish back there. anyway, i'm joined by the columnist, the author "the making of donald trump" tell us about the evolution, when he was sort of a show-boating business guy, nothing illegal about that i suppose. this guy who found a way to make himself the tribune of the right. >> well, donald has always been about money, despite that 1980 interview i guess it was with tom brokaw. money is

pelham, notice was sent to the respondents in this matter?s. >> and is there anyone here from either the planning department or sarah jones, or john rahaim? do i hear a motion from any commissioner? >> before there is a motion -- >> pardon me? >> mr. chairman, before any motion, may i? >> sure. >> i'm trying to think of ceqa law. as i remember ceqa law, if a governmental planning department or some other entity concludes that a project is exempt, at least the custom and practice was there would be a written explanation for it. it would be laid-out in writing. and speaking to mr. grossman's complaint goes beyond my technical prowess as to how this should be done. but the other part seems to be that these deliberations in the planning department, at least hypothetically are conducted orally between employees of the planning department, or some other department of city government. and there ought to be a law that makes them put it in writing. that is what i gleaned from this. and maybe there should. maybe there should, but i always thought with

john pelham died serving in cfg afghanistan in 2014. >> i picked it up and looked at it and it has a named engraved and i wiped off the sand and yustled -- all of a sudden i noticed kia on the corner of it. >> she got it back to the family who said they are so thankful to have it back just in time for the holidays. we'll be right back. >> good morning, everyone, it is 7:30 this sunday morning, taking a live look sky6 live hd it's a pretty one, but there's a chilly start to your sunday, in some areas we could be seeing the season's first snowfall or wintry mix. accuweather details coming up. >> trump is moving away from two top choices of secretary of state as he works to fill his cabinet. >>> the temple owls are showing off new hardware, they have m c. >> much more on the story, but we turn our attention to the the exclusive accuweather seven-day forecast. nydia han is off, alicia is here, and chris sowers tracking the forecast. >> reporter: we're tracking overnight snow mainly for areas north of the lehigh valley in the poconos. it's chilly and we lost the gusty breeze. 41 in philad

thunderstorms just because the heaviest of the morning showers don't think you need to bring the young pelhame can expect tonight like we mention showers do continue the winds up on to be pretty high 2 to the 30 mi. an hour winds with gusts up to a 35 mi. an hour past sunday is going to be a cold morning you're going to wake up to it will seek in the 30's possibly even to the '20s dropping down if it is one to be quite chilly winter your house is nice and warm with of going to see some sunshine. >>robin winston: a nice come along the bay area for now on the san mateo bridge 92 looks good coming out of hayward. >>darya: they outscored them by 20 points in the third quarter they won this one with a fine of 117 to 1 01 they pulled out all the stops and they weren't closely with a hospital that could help care for him when he was born. >>darya: we have a preview of what is now showing assassin to bring in $30 million during the holiday. it is on course to a 45 million-dollar open and accountable for variety and hollywood reporter the american idol. >>darya: this is how the storm track looks at th

pelham, notice was sent to the respondents in this matter? >> yes. >> and is there anyone here from either the planning department or sarah jones, or john rahaim? do i hear a motion from any commissioner? >> before there is a motion -- >> pardon me? >> mr. chairman, before any motion, may i? >> sure. >> i'm trying to think of ceqa law. as i remember ceqa law, if a governmental planning department or some other entity concludes that a project is exempt, at least the custom and practice was there would be a written explanation for it. it would be laid-out in writing. and speaking to mr. grossman's complaint goes beyond my technical prowess as to how this should be done. but the other part seems to be that these deliberations in the planning department, at least hypothetically are conducted orally between employees of the planning department, or some other department of city government. and there ought to be a law that makes them put it in writing. that is what i gleaned from this. and maybe there should. maybe there should, but i always thought

pelham to the governing board on the golf it's been lose conference congratulations. >> and. >> suspiciouschievement i'm sure. >> we all join. >> all right. agenda item 9 is discussion and possible action regarding complaints received or initiated by the ethics commission concerning golf code sections 1.22 par by a candidate for purposes other than the campaign and possible closed session i'll ask for public comment before we vote on who to go into closed session and commissioner renne i'm larry bush i sent to the members of the commission materials that is relevant to cases like this i don't know the specific case but, but hope you have an opportunity to take into consideration in this or any other future case thank you. >> thank you. >> mr. hart you do want to make a comment that you wanted to make earlier when your time ran out. >> for the agenda items the violation (inaudible). >> thank you. >> all right. do i hear a motion to who to go into closed session on item number 9. >> it is required by the charter to go into closed session. >> then why do we need a motion. >> a procedural one

pelham to the governing board on the golf it's been lose conference congratulations. >> and. >> suspiciouschievement i'm sure. >> we all join. >> all right. agenda item 9 is discussion and possible action regarding complaints received or initiated by the ethics commission concerning golf code sections 1.22 par by a candidate for purposes other than the campaign and possible closed session i'll ask for public comment before we vote on who to go into closed session and commissioner renne i'm larry bush i sent to the members of the commission materials that is relevant to cases like this i don't know the specific case but, but hope you have an opportunity to take into consideration in this or any other future case thank you. >> thank you. >> mr. hart you do want to make a comment that you wanted to make earlier when your time ran out. >> for the agenda items the violation (inaudible). >> thank you. >> all right. do i hear a motion to who to go into closed session on item number 9. >> it is required by the charter to go into closed session. >> then why do we need a motion. >> a procedural one

pelham to the governing board on the golf it's been lose conference congratulations. >> and. >> suspiciouschievement i'm sure. >> we all join. >> all right. agenda item 9 is discussion and possible action regarding complaints received or initiated by the ethics commission concerning golf code sections 1.22 par by a candidate for purposes other than the campaign and possible closed session i'll ask for public comment before we vote on who to go into closed session and commissioner renne i'm larry bush i sent to the members of the commission materials that is relevant to cases like this i don't know the specific case but, but hope you have an opportunity to take into consideration in this or any other future case thank you. >> thank you. >> mr. hart you do want to make a comment that you wanted to make earlier when your time ran out. >> for the agenda items the violation (inaudible). >> thank you. >> all right. do i hear a motion to who to go into closed session on item number 9. >> it is required by the charter to go into closed session. >> then why do we need a motion. >> a procedural one