i have been talking about that with director pellam. does that fall under the director of the department, hr, ethics? i have never seen the violations incompatible activities? what does it do? what do you have to disclose on the form 700. in the city you have to disclose if you are in a regular contact with somebody who has issues before your commission. even if it is unpaid. if you are both on a nonprofit board of supervisors. there is a law that says it has to be disclosed. nothing that says where it is disclosed. i don't know of anyone can fine where it is disclosed. when you talk about the training we are going to give, you have to start with what is it we are telling people they have to do? we don't know the information as well as we should. that is one of the reasons why we can look to a group like thee center to help us identify what it is that people need to disclose and be more transparent on to obtain ethical government. i would put that ahead of hiring staff or anything else. >> i don't know that they are mutually exclusive.