you have elizabeth lauren and -- warren and nancy pelosi thing they don't like it. the president now is whipping the vote for john boehner because john boehner needs some unspecified number of unspecified votes and the president is trying to convince democrats to go against nancy pelosi. they would have maybe been better off the more ambiguous. >> i'm not sure john boehner lost any votes because of this. the votes he lost or unlikely to vote for this thing anyway. on the merits, whatever you think of the president's role, i think nancy pelosi has a strong case. some of the things on this bill, particularly the gutting of dodd-frank, the democrats are right though -- both as a matter of strategy and substance. >> it appears to me both sides went in today thinking boehner was going to find the votes to do it. under normal circumstances, a speaker with a speaker with the bigger majority coming and could have found the votes but the president not have moved any house republicans from yes to knowno, but i think he froze the pool of available house republicans who might h

they're revolting including nancy pelosi. we're told we have enough votes to show them never to do this again. not talking about them being republicans but them being the white house. they're upset starting with nancy pelosi as the they're trying to jam this down democrats' throats. other point is what is the president doing now? he was calling lawmakers earlier and now in a christmas party behind me. someone said they're out of line to take a photo and all of a sudden secret service shut down the line and said the president has to go take care of business he went into a room and just came back to take more photos. not sure what happened in that room. expecting to sort out what is next here. >> latest from our producer is that they do not think this is going to pass. and thank you. we'll get to nancy pelosi. she's with those liberal democrats and against the white house. really? listen, what a difference a year makes back in 2013 top democrats were saying republicans have lost their minds. they were irrational. those are the

and nancy pelosi, you have to say, it's like this. she says that she's against it and that's that way. she helped craft the deal. she helped make the deal. it's not that she's against it, it's that the parade is heading in another direction. elizabeth warren is within the caucus. >> let's underscore that for the viewers. nancy pelosi comes out tonight and she says she's enormously disappointed in this white house. that they're going along with this. this is horrible. she crafted the deal. >> crafted the deal. >> she had no adherence to history. she does not care what she did in the past. she will just say whatever she wants to say today. >> well, she's a politician. that's what they do. >> she's more unhinged to the past than other politicians, am i wrong? >> i don't have a richter scale for unhinged -- >> it's an app on my iphone and it says nancy pelosi and politifact are on constantly like that. she's reversed herself entirely. but the point is liberal dems are running from the deal. they don't like wall street reform and some othe

and then you had nancy pelosi saying vote against the bill. and then you had steny hoyer, the minority whip, so even leader nancy pelosi and the whip hoyer were on the other side of the aisle. we have elizabeth warren in the senate, people who are at the outer edge of the far left wing of the democratic party who simply can't believe the fact that the voters spoke against them. elected republicans instead of democrats and rejected their policies and so they're trying to blow the place up. and they really wanted to shut the place down because there were some provisions of the bill they didn't like. >> well, if they didn't like the provisions or in the case of senator warren in the last minute the bill about government spending suddenly what was jammed into it was something about protecting banks. i thought it was because i thought it was an issue unrelated to spending. but it really didn't belong in a spending bill, it was about appropriations and the government spending. >> when we go through the appropriations, as the house and senate are sup

pelosi calls control -- kromnibus. we know what's in it.bl< and congressman aaron shocke joinsu]mj÷ us. good evening, sir. >> good evening, greta seems like there is a little problem within the democratic party last night. >> i guess we must be doing something right. we have a bill on the floor that my democraticçcíÑ friends on the other side of the aisle were coming up to me and saying you won't believe it, i just had pelosi come over and tell me i have got to vote know and i just got a call from vice president biden asking me to vote yes. and in the six years in congress that i have been there i have never seen something like this where you have the white house both the president and the vice president actively calling house members asking them to vote for a bill and then you had nancy pelosi saying vote against the bill. and then you had steny hoyerú the minority whip saying iuz even leader pelosi and minority whip hoyer were on different sides of the aisle. so, or different sides of this issue. so, what we really

it's not just nancy pelosi.elisabeth warren is right to say when i get up in the morning, if i see the financial regulations bill being gutted, i'm going to have to stand there and say something, even if obama is the target. so by the time we get to the christmas party a year from now, the list may be very small. >> when you say that list is getting small, do you see this increasing or do you see a sense of the next two years that you've got a big group of people moving to the liberal wing of the democratic party as this continues? >> no. i think unfortunately -- i love to see a great influx. i think what you're going to see is in fighting within the liberal side of the democratic party. a tough time by harry reid and others to keep their troops in line and the sense by the president absolutely no doubt and his advisors that they're being betrayed by their friends like nancy pelosi when they're doing their best they can to get a bill through. so no, i don't think the party will get big and boisterous. i think it

nancy pelosi, john boehner and his lieutenants have to get to 218. for every republican they lose you have to get one democrat and nancy pelosi is not a giving mood. she doesn't want to agree to something before she sees it. same with conservative republicans. they don't want to vote for this until they know what is in there. >> there's also the question -- she tipped her hand on leverage -- today is the day the symbolic anti-immigration litigation was happening. nobody is saying i'm going to be with john boehner today of all days but it's clear that nancy , pelosi and steny hoyer will end up going along. i think harry reid gave them away a couple of days ago when he said he was in favor of a her -- boehner's plan will stop >> -- plan. >> it represents the first nine months of republican dominance when they control both chambers. that is why harry reid is psyched about it. if republicans think they are going to have a lot of leverage playing a game of chicken, i have a bridge in los angeles i would like to sell them. >> i would like to buy that bridg

most house democrats led by minority leader nancy pelosi voted against the bill. with many in appear unrope over a provision that weakens financial reforms put in place in 2010. house members heading home for the holidays after the vote, leaving the bill in the hands of the senate. bring in nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. an interesting dynamic where you had nancy pelosi and liberal democrats against the white house. talk a little about this. >> well, we really haven't seen that on something of this scale before, joy. this was a case where in this huge bill, which was negotiated by teams from each party, democrats and republicans working together over months. in many kays that was considered a victory. but in the last several days some things were added in to try to sweeten the deal. and one of the provisions that really riled the liberal left, especially people like elizabeth warren and nancy pelosi had to do with a change to wall street reforms that came into being after the meltdown of 2008. this would allow some very big banks to do derivatives

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pelosi was on one side. elizabeth warren with nancy pelosi. the president with john boehner. strange battlelines, and there are still some tensions over that. but you saw nancy pelosi assert her self yesterday. the white house today said listen, they disagree on the tactics, not the ultimate goal. they will continue to work together. they have been close collaborators. us from cook joining capitol hill. thank you. wall street is back on top in washington, or at least that is what democrats are saying. as peter just mentioned, the $1.1 trillion spending bill includes an amendment to repeal a piece of the 2012 law. are democrats turning to an anti-wall street message in the wake of their midterm losses? >> it certainly appears that way. with senate democrats in control of the majority, very few, if any, proposals to make any changes whatsoever to the dodd frank financial reform law have had a chance to move through. as peter noted, there is a provision that would repeal a section of the derivatives portion of the law. wall street has lobbied very hard for this. but they might n

so, they're saying nice things about nancy nancy pelosi. this is someone who's not only been a significant ally, and going forward they'll look for ways to compromise in that nancy pelosi will continue for them. this is what josh earnest said earlier at the briefing. >> it's hard to think of anyone the president has worked with more closely or more successfully on capitol hill than leader pelosi. leader pelosi is someone who's a champion for middle class families and for basic american values. and that makes her someone who shares -- has the same priorities as the president. >> did nancy pelosi get frozen out of these negotiations? certainly, she wasn't the key player here. definitely was harry reid on the democratic side and the president. they got what they wanted here in terms of getting this deal done. i think the other thing josh earnest says, anybody who underestimates nancy pelosi does things at their own peril. she's gotten things done in the past. >> thank you very much for that. let's turn to staff correspondent. lauren, there was

and this isn't s a real power play between nancy pelosi and barack obama. she's been the least powerful person in leadership at the table for quite a while. and that floor speech today was a real slap in his face. and this was clearly a deal the white house wanted to see passed when they put out an endorsement earlier today. and to allow the republicans to have to pull it you have a and see what would happen wheen the markets went down, it was a really interesting ploy as it all falls apart. >> harry reid asking for time to debate this is not a good sign for the bill. normally, we all know, if you have the votes, you ram them through as fast as you can. him delaying it tomorrow the way it sounds like he's doing, luke, that sound like there could be problems in the senate. >> well, they don't really have another option, lawrence, because of the hour. it's so late. so just the way it would work procedurally, they need these two days in order to move forward. i don't think they would be able to get unanimous content. but that senate vote is going to be fast. t

nancy pelosi among those opposed.ut against a banking provision inserted by republicans and agreed to by the white house that rolls back protections for taxpayers against bank losses caused by drivetives trades. >> i'm enormously disappointed that the white house feels that the only way they can get a bill is to go along with this, and that would be the only reason i think they would say they would sign such a bill that would weaken a critical component of financial system reform aimed at reducing taxpayer risk. >> the senate could pass a bill as soon as today. meantime, are we at the bottom? that's a never-ending question. not yet, it would appear. oil closing below $60 a barrel for the first time since july 2009, and overnight, the price of crude dipped as low as $58.80 a barrel. there's speculation that opec's biggest members will defend market share. west texas intermediate futures fell in new york. they plunged 10% this week. oil head for the 10th weekly drop since october after opec decided against cutting outpu

hoyer breaking with pelosi, still have divided government. it will be interesting to see how the intraparty dynamics work out. disarray on the right and left, maybe bipartisan coalitions can come together. >> if the democrats are talking about the post obama era with two years to go in the presidency, it reminds me of republicans talking about the post-bush era with two years to go and what you get in the meantime is chaos. >>> up next, should we jump to conclusions because a potential presidential candidate with a familiar name started losing weight and plans to write a book. >>> an overdue apology from a key architect of obamacare. >> i'd like to begin i go apologizing for the offending comments that i've made. the american public is too stupid to understand the difference. >> are you stupid? >> i don't think so, no. >> does mit employ stupid people? >> not to my knowledge. >> okay. >> basically call the stupid of the american voter or what have but basically that was really, really critical to get it to pass. >> so you're a smart man who s

>> well, it wasn't just nancy pelosi. it was also senator elizabeth warren.re is this provision included in this budget that addresses the 2010 dodd frank wall street reform act, pretty much what it would do is allow banks, it would tweak and allow big banks to engage in derivative trading which sounds really wonky, bull all it means is it is a riskier form of financial trading. progressives hate this. they think it is a horrible deal and republicans say it will help boost economic growth. so an interesting battle that really bubbled over last night at the 11th hour. i think nancy pelosi and progressives like elizabeth warren, however, are only going to continue to shout louder on this issue, especially in a republican controlled congress. >> nancy pelosi could have done more to block this. but she didn't. she could have whipped had her party. is she finding herself outnumbered in her party and does this question her power as house leader? >> that's a great question. i don't think it shows that she's outnumbered. i think what it shows is president obama prefe

nancy pelosi and maxine watters. pelosi told us she will vote no.rats are upset about weakening dodd frank banking regulation. house speaker john boehner noted earlier that this deal is bipartisan and bi cameral. meaning democrats from the house and senate were also at the negotiating table. boehner and his leadership team have been trying to convince some republican members to support the package. but some are deadly -- definitely against it because they want to fight the president on immigration now. we are stuck heading for a midnight deadline and all indications are they may go with a continuing resolution to fund the government only through the end of february. greta? >> mike, thank you. and it's 4 hours and less than one minute from the witching hour of midnight. but scramble to do something short-term sure. mike, thank you. of course we will be watching. tell it the viewers to watch and see what happens. see you again tomorrow night right here at 7:00 p.m. eastern. if you can't watch us live, use your dvr and follow me twitter handle @greta.

am inrprised that i agreement with nancy pelosi. have a good day. republicans supported the house bill. 57 republicans opposed it. 67 democrats supported it. 139 democrats opposed it. clinton exploring spring announcement. formal announcement likely to be in spring of 2015 according to the washington post. articleico, a political , romney more open to 2016 run. supporters have said he should consider running again. he hasn't seemed uninterested has seemedtly -- uninterested until recently. the republican one of 12 nominee idea.emed open to the -- 2012 nominee hasn't seemed open to the idea. jamie on our democrats lie. caller: hello. my simple comment is i am totally outraged at how duped the american public has been and havehe republicans totally undermined our country with this absurd bill that passed. i have a question about, is there anything that the senate can do tomorrow morning to overturn that or to not pass that? is there anything that can be done to stop this absurdity that republicans pulled up yesterday? host: what is it about the bill t

pelosi has already been in the minority.nority. >> there seems to be a big divide between the pragmatists and purists. the pragmatists were like harry reid in the white house saying we've got to deal. it is not the best deal in the world.ç but it's better than anything we're going to get once we're in the minority. so let's just all agree to push this forward. the purists which in the nancy pelosi category and a lot of the liberals that you saw withç elizabeth warren say it's worth having a fight over an issue like you saw "the wall street journal" bank issue, about writers inserted in the last minute. this is not a debate for democrats that is necessarily going to go on in the same way tas will for republicans because this is it for democrats. they are now out of power. they are in the minority. this is the last best chance they could get for stuff they wanted to see in the next year. >> woodruff: so todd za well itch, up close, the democrats have a strategy for how they operate, a minority in both houses. >> i think nanc

minority leader nancy pelosi urging her caucus to vote no, and she blasted president obama while her number two, congressman steny hoyer was actually urging the bill's passage. the democrats, that divide. the president spokesman claiming no hard feelings between the white house and the minority leader. >> we'll just say that the president has always had not just a good working relationship but open line of communication with leader pelosi. that didn't change yesterday and it's not going to change in the future. lou: reid is playing nice, he wants the trillion dollar, 1600 page bill passed tonight. but the democratic ranks in the senate are severely divided. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is on capitol hill and has our report. >> reporter: lou, the drama isn't entirely over on capitol hill. house passed a trillion dollar plus government funding extension, now it's up to the senate. >> we're going to consider the legislation to keep our government open and funded and do it today, i hope. senators are unhappy with the legislation, and they'll have a chance to make their

you call it a compromise bill and nancy pelosi calls it a blackmail bill.ng their caucus together? >> you guys said you gave the democrats running room. house democrats say wait a second, this is blackmail. >> alex, you'd have to ask house democrats for their positions. i think a lot of house democrats agree with us that this is a pretty good deal. we'll try to get some house republicans onboard and, look, whenever we're in a democracy that we're trying to build bipartisan cooperation, it will be messy and that's what we see here and what that means is there are reasons that republicans are voting for this bill and there are reasons the democrats are voting for this bill and neither side got everything that they wanted and the fact that the republicans who started this process said they were hoping to use this process to put in place writers to gut the president's ability to undermine his ability to take executive action to reform the broken immigration system. >> in fairness, josh, there is no legislative mechanism to unwind the president's announced execu

pelosi was saying don't vote against the bill. the president, vice president and chief of staff meeting with the democrats to get the bill over the top. i think it will pass the senate, it is just a matter of when. >> we have different fractions and interests there that might slow it down or stop it. elizabeth warren has made a name for herself going after corruption on wall street and big bank and supportive of heavy regulation and monitoring by the federal government and she is very unhappy about the provision. so she is going to gum up the works over there. and you have ted cruz and others who say they may pull from the right and slow it down. are we talking about 2016 c contenders trying to make a name for themselves in the midst of this battle? >> there is a lot of talk about senator warren and what she wants and where she is going. is she thinking about running for president? she has said no repeatedly but the headlines are intensifying the speculation. ted cruz has been out there as well. so you have the left and right atta

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the minority leader nancy carlos made -- nancy pelosi. another tweet here from the washington post, who says jamie dimon himself called to urge support for the derivatives role in the bill. you can readmore at the washington post. read more reach -- at the washington post. that portion still a part of the bill that passed in the house tonight. it will be going on to the senate and then on to the president. bill. support the if you oppose. .ll others you can send us a tweet. you can also post your comments on facebook.com/c-span. tom, you support the bill so what are your thoughts? >> i am shocked. you know something? let me tell you something, i was shocked. >> what shocked you? it almost gave me a heart attack. support of this, were you surprised by how long it took? >> i'm surprised. >> go ahead. >> i was surprised and i just want to say thanks to the house. the measure passing and the house and headed to the senate, let's hear what thomas thinks. you are on the line for those who oppose the measure. >> i think the measure is a travesty

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no one was willing to go against pelosi at least on the first vote. anti-wall street and the democrats' willingness to grab on to and run is a fascinating dynamic to watch. >> we'll have some fun tonight. in addition to talk about what's happening right now in the u.s. senate, women. look at the golden gloves. strong women are the leaders of the pack. today democratic leadership is striking back at senator warren. going at her. a senior democratic aide went after senator warren today, telling "hardball," she's the ted cruz of the democratic party. that's a tough shot from a democrat. the purist who may stand on principle, but refusing to be part of the governing majority. >> and president obama fired this shot at his critics. >> this guy definition was a compromise bill. this is what is produced when you have the divided government that the american people voted for. had i been able to draft my own legislation and get it passed without any republican votes, i suspect it would be slightly different. that is not the circumstance we find ourselves in and

>> pelosi was not happy, she went against the white house and went to war against the white house. >> over one provision? >> no, over all. she was very unset about the finance campaign changes, and pelosi was upset that she was left out of these negotiations. this was a deal crafted by senate democratic negotiators and republicans on the house side, and then the bill was simply presented to the members, and pelosi did not like what she saw at all. >> when we come back we'll look at congress and coming fights on homeland security and immigration. this is inside story. stay with us. >> once only available on the black market, now accessible with the click of a mouse. we examine how the internet is fueling the illegal wildlife trade like never before. >> the stream on al jazeera america >> welcome back to inside story on al jazeera america. i'm ray suarez. the cromnibus rolled out of the house this week, but not everyone is jumping on board. now it's heading over to the u.s. senate. in a news briefing the president talked of his hopes that the bill would fare well there. still waiting th

can you just roll some more video of nancy pelosi. it is clear that this was taken after midnight because she turned into a pumpkin. the media in this whole shutdown thing vilifies the right faction and calls them -- on the right, they're seen as heroic. >> they called it a citigroup provision, and actually this bill is not finished yet and there are supporters on the right and the left coming together saying that they don't think this should be a part of it. let's take a look at elizabeth warren who was willing to say we'll go all the way to the mat on this and shut down the government and the media says, oh, my gosh, she's such a hero. look at what she said about a shut yo shutdown last year. >> americans don't want the extreme republicans bizarre vision of attacks on government. the attacks on government are abstract but the effects of this shutdown is real. less opportunity for our children, cracks in the foundations that businesses need to succeed. and a tilted playing field that limits opportunities for all of u ow people. >> do

one, pelosi wanted to be known she couldn't be taken for granted. this was her saying to the white house and harry reid, you can't expect my members to line up behind this. we're entering a new phase in the relationship between obama and democrats. these politics within the party have existed throughout his presidency but they've been papered over to some degree because the political interests of the white house and democrats on the hill have aligned. that's no longer going to be the case here. for obama, he'll have an interest in trying to strike deals with republicans and a lot of democrats are not going to want to give republicans an opportunity to look like they can govern. >> is this the beginning. lame duck period of the obama presidency? >> it depends on what you would categorize as a lame duck. if president obama can make deals with republicans, trade, tax reform, perhaps, he might look effective. but certainly a new phase in the relationship with his party. >> let's talk about the split on republicans. we saw ted cruz and a few others like

nancy pelosi spoke out against it. >> i'm enormously disappointed that the white house feels that the only way thebling get a bill is to go along with it, and that would be the only reason i think they would say they would sign such a bill that would weaken a critical component of financial system reform aimed at reducing taxpayer risk. >> the senate could pass a bill as soon as today. are we at bottom? not yet. oil closing below $60 a barrel for the first time since july 2009. this morning it dipped to $ 58.80 a barrel. there's speculation opec's biggest members will defend market share. west texas intermediate futures fell in new york. they have plunged 10% this week. oil headed for its 10th weekly drop sense october after opec decided against reducing output. >> the director of the c.i.a. made a rare move. he held a press conference

nancy pelosi, she was fired up, angry at the white house.he actually said that she was enormously disappointed in the obama white house for supporting passage of the bill. is this another sign that the president isn't respected by his own party? >> that part is certainly right. let me commend my colleague angela mcglowan for her comments. >> you're the only democrat who has commended her. she's laughing because it's true. >> it respects the will of the american people. but you're right, julie, to say that with the white house now being totally at odds with the congressional leadership. >> yeah. >> we are in for really, really tough times for the democratic party as they move to 2016. >> you guys are freaking me out, angela, with you agreeing with doug here. what got overlooked was the bill that passed the house and likely to pass the senate in the next couple of days is a bipartisan bill, something that washington hasn't seen these last few years anyway, but is this the new normal? >> i'm hoping that it is the new normal. if you look at the

here's house minority leader nancy pelosi. >> this is a ransom, this is blackmail. you don't get a bill unless wall street gets its taxpayer coverage. i'm enormously disappointed that the white house feels that the only way they can get a bill is to go along with this. >> the senate could vote this afternoon, but democrat elizabeth warren of massachusetts, a favorite of liberals, had this to say about it last night. >> a vote for the bill is a vote for future taxpayer bailouts of wall street. republicans, democrats and independents, they sent us here to stand up for them, to stand up for taxpayers, to protect the economy. it is time for all of us to stand up and fight. >> pelosi and warren's break from the white house catching the eye of syndicated columnist charles krauthammer who says we could be seeing a growing rift within the democratic party. >> if you're a republican, you should simply sit back and enjoy in this. people have been talking about the great civil war among republicans. i've argued that it's rubbish. the real civil war, especially after this elect

we gave the cia funding to carry out its activities." >> you personally briefed nancy pelosi?terrogation? >> we briefed here on 4 september 2002 about the interrogation of abu zabaydah. >> this wasn't just a courtesy call. u.s. law requires the cia to inform top congressional leaders about covert activities. one of the ranking members notified was west virginia senator jay rockefeller who after the capture of khalid sheikh mohammed in 2003 said we should be "very, very tough with him" and that "we have no business not getting that information." i wouldn't take anything off the table where he's concerned because this is the man who has killed hundreds and hundreds of americans over the last ten years. senator dianne feinstein, a local critic of enhanced interrogation claims she didn't learn about the interrogation techniques until years later. and this week former cia director michael hayden backed that up on america's newsroom. listen. >> senator feinstein did not, the congress, the gang of four and gang of eight, knew this from the very beginning. >> so as michael hayden ackn

we know, for example, that nancy pelosi, who was the ranking member of the house intelligence committee, was briefed on these interrogations. porter goss, who was the chairman of that committee, has written that they knew what the cia was doing, they supported it, they funded it. jay rockefeller, who was chairman, the vice chairman on the other side of the senate, of the senate intelligence committee. and the point i want to make is not just that this is hypocritical to all of a sudden change your mind and your public stance long after the fact, but it is to say how consensual democrat and republican was the idea that we were hit, we were blindsided, we knew almost nothing about al qaeda. it was our pearl harbor. and it was a very rational decision to at that point go ahead with interrogation programs for very limited number of high value detainees like khalid shaikh mohammed, who planned the 9/11 attack and who was planning other attacks. after he was subjected to these techniques, they broke his will and he was giving seminars to the cia interrogators on the structure of al qaeda, tel

>> i remember very clearly briefing nancy pelosi in september of 2002. the congress had been on break. as soon as they got back from break in september, the first thing i did is i went to brief her and the chairman of the house select committee on intelligence at the time. we briefed her, and i was not the only one who game from the agency. i had my lawyers with her. we briefed her specifically on the use of the enhanced interrogation techniques on abu zubeta. she knew back in september of 2002 every one of our enhanced interrogation -- >> let me ask you specifically, did you tell her about waterboarding, about sleep deprivation? >> yes, yes, we did. yes, i did. >> did you tell her about slapping or pushing into walls, all of the techniques? >> i briefed her on all of the techniques. these people were fully aware of all the techniques that were given to us and approved by the office of legal counsel of justice. >> did, just to take the example you gave us, nancy pelosi, did she ever object to the techniques you mentioned? >> she never objected to the tec

nancy pelosi is right in the sense that they have leverage a little bit. they do need some of those democrats in the middle. steny hoyer is a person you don't hear from a lot. he is the house whip. he got the 57 democrats together. next year democrats are important for giving speaker boehner enough votes that he doesn't have on his own side. >> the white house today, friday, was talking about how speaker boehner was going to have at least, what is it, 12 more republicans in his conference and they're kind of looking at him that 12 more might give him a little more strength, that's certainly the way they're thinking about it. obviously mitch mcconnell will have the majority and so the thought is that maybe president obama will rise a little bit beyond what people's expectations were, maybe speaker boehner himself will feel more comfortable and more powerful himself with mitch mcconnell being by his side. >> a new era of bipartisanship. >> no, lots of news for all of us. gwen: let's parse out some of the actual bites. where does that immigration executive or

. >> nancy pelosi lost on the omnibus vote.y leader nancy pelosi was on the losing side of the spending bell. she made her point. that point? that she's tired of being forced to carry the water for the white house and senate democrats who she believes are in the habit of cutting deals without including her. i'm giving the leverage to do whatever you have to do. we have enough votes to show them never to do this again. but what nancy pelosi made clear while there will be more republicans in the house and senate in january nothing can get done easily without some portion of liberal democrats on board. point made. >> you certainly understand nancy pelosi's position. if you want her to be a partner you got to deal with her. and she was left carrying the water for a lot of people. let's talk about what was in that bill. jeffrey sachs, nancy pelosi, elizabeth warren very angry about some things in there that actually they believe make things even easier on wall street. >> they know. >> look, the whole bill is designed step by step to

if nancy pelosi thought this bill was beiokay, they could ha it in a second. unfortunately for republicans, they don't have that right now. they're struggling in a holding pattern, waiting to see what will happen out of this meeting. if you think about the 200 democrats that they have in the caucus, the fact they can't get to 40 or 50, really shows the power of pelosi and warren. whether there's an all-out lobbying effort right now. i talked to members who are getting calls, telling them to go forward on this. the obamacare gives them money to go after isis, for ebola. but a lot of priorities that are protected for the next fiscal year. the house democrats don't care, they want to fight about dodd-frank, and they want to fight now. >> you're saying the white house is saying they would get a worse bill when the republicans take over in january. but the fact is that the government would not shut down. they do have a plan b in case they don't get the votes, isn't that right? >> sure. the backup plan was they would have something that lasts maybe a week, maybe it'

nancy pelosi was among those opposed.anking provision inserted by republicans and agreed to by the white house. >> i'm enormously disappointed that the white house feels that the only way they can get a bill is to go along with this, and that would be the only reason, i think, they would sign such a bill that would weaken a critical component of financial system reform aimed at reducing taxpayer risk. >> the senate could pass the bill as soon as today. the director of the cia faced the media to answer questions about that senate interrogation report, that explosive report. john brennan said yesterday, "it is unknowable whether harsh interrogation tactics used on suspects produced meaningful results." he described some soul-searching by the u.s. government in the aftermath of the nine -- the 9/11 terrorist attacks. >> the previous of ministration faced agonizing choices about how to pursue al qaeda and prevent -- previous administration faced agonizing how to pursue al qaeda and prevent more catastrophic loss of life. ther