thank you. >> co-chair pelzman: thank you. next caller please. >> this is roger. president of the transport workers union local 258. i want to highlight what the riders, passengers have been stating. one of the ways in which we can provide better more accessible service for the wheelchair community, for the at-risk community, for the community that are special needs community, by bringing back the light rail vehicles back on the surface. we have been pushing and pressing the agency to bring back the light rail vehicle service. from what i understand, sfmta is the only public transportation system in the united states of america that has completely shut down its light rail vehicle service. why? we have no idea. when i say we, i mean local 258, light rail vehicle systems are bigger. they are stronger. they have more space for passengers. they are safer for the operators. by bringing back the light rail vehicle system, and the service back on the surface, we'll create more social distancing, more public vehicles out on the street

let's see, helen pelzman? >> co-chair pelzman: hi. okay. sorry, i'm doing this on my iphone. yeah, i have a couple of questions. the first is, we understand that this shared spaces strategy may become permanent. and considered by the board of supervisors as permanent, and then sort of, i guess they're kind of related to one another. -- situation we're in sort of bordering on category purple, which would shut down all dining, am i correct? there would be no outdoor dining? i'm a little unclear about that. but given the current status of this increase in covid, what is the plan for these spaces if nobody is going to be sitting in them due to curfew and restricted access? so those are two questions. >> thank you for those questions. i think i can definitely answer the first one. and then my deputy director at the m.t.a. can address the second one about the purple. the first is that, correct, mayor breed did announce last month that she would like elements of the shared spaces program to become permanent. that does not mean every single shared space site that we see in the city i