as defiant as james brown, as traditionally -- what is it -- as traditionally masculine as teddy pendergasthe did it all. >> yeah. >> i keep thinking, too, of course his music, classic. too, the businessman. the way he battled with warner. he didn't like digital. didn't like streaming. describe that side of him. >> well, it's interesting because he was as comfortable talking to other performers as he was talking to lawyers. >> brilliant. >> we have a lawyer at sony, julie swidler, who sent so much time talking to prince about -- who spent so much time talking to prince about business and life. and he spent as much time doing that with comfort as he would with alicia keys, as a musician. he's just -- the greatest. i've said it many times. i'm not saying it because we lost a great one, now me he's always been the greatest. you know, and no one's even close. >> you said he was a big influence on you. are you talking about your clothes, you talking about your music, your style -- >> he's an influence on my clothes today because i'm wearing my purple shirt, which is a little unusual -- >> back i