so they came in like say pendleton james for ronald reagan came in early in 1980 and then he stayed through all the way through being the personnel director. clay johnson did that for president george w. bush and chase did it for president george h.w. bush. so there's a consistency there because the person does the recruiting sets up the rules, implements the rules and then comes in and is in there for the first wave of appointments so that it is important to do. now, russell gerson who was john mccain's person working on personnel when he assumed that job during the campaign working on their transition he had talked to pendleton james who told him that he had to commit himself for 18 months and that was something he was willing to do. >> all right. i'm going to pause here for a quick break. we'll be back with martha kumar and her new book. this summer take flight, without having to take a flight. because all the thrills you need are right here at busch gardens, and water country usa. in williamsburg, va. like the daring new coaster tempesto. so ride together slide together whether it's mon

pick out the names, idea pendleton, the list goes on and on this has got to stop. we can put 10,000 police officers on the street and what would happen? maybe we'll arrest mr. brown 90 times and nothing will happen. maybe we'll take another 10,000 guns off the street and another 10,000 will fill up that illegal market the next day. i'm incredibly proud of the men and women in this department who, in spite of what i'm talking about, go out every single day and do what they do. we need some help here folks, we have to fix this broken system. >>> cnn's ryan young joining us on the phone from chicago. also in washington former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. tom, let me begin with you, the 7-year-old shot amar'e brown. what do we know about him? >> well this is what we know so far. he was trying to enjoy the fireworks celebration and, in fact when that shooting started, his father is even quoted saying he didn't realize his son was start until he started asking for help. apparently he was not the intended target. another woman was shot at the same time. she's 26. s

camp pendleton for 2013 50 cases of sexual assault alleged, ten of those cases, we have an issue with domestic violence to look at you also had 18 for civilians a 28 out of 50 are not part of our survey so sexual assault last year estimated 20,000 sexual assaults doesn't include civilians or spouses, more than half of your camp pendleton cases are not even counted in those numbers. the other statistics service numbers are 21. the other and not want you to be aware of is the challenge we have responding appropriately. among your spouses, made no longer launched to prosecute. other civilian complaints, eight during the year end of your service members eight withdrew sonya behalf of the cases that were reported to report a case you have to put your name on the bottom line, it was very invasive. it was public, to withdraw have to withdraw within a year does not show confidence in the system. and there is the issue, how much retaliation existing. and those reported a rate with retaliating against that process and retaliation comes in all forms, 53% socially would appear, 35% administrative

in a bitter irony, it had recently been re-named for hadiya pendleton, the 15-year- old honor student killing drew national attention when she was shot to death in another park just days after performing at president obama's second inauguration. her parents were beyond dismay to learn of vonzell's killing here. >> i was devastated. the park, you know, we just got the park renamed, and already, you know, there was a murder here. >> my emotions really got the best of me to be perfectly honest, because the situations were so similar between what happened to my daughter, and what happened to their son. >> reporter: like hadiya pendleton-- and so many others in chicago-- vonzell banks died from a bullet intended for someone else. in this case, a gang member who ran onto this basketball court fleeing a rival. police say the gang-banger pulled out a gun and fired indiscriminately, hitting banks in the back. his cousin, also shot, survived. >> vonzell died in his father's arms. a father not only lost his son, he held him as he took his last breath. >> shots fired. >> reporter: already this ye

camp pendleton near san diego, is home.think of a more romantic place than new orleans or the bayou. that said, hold on to your sweetheart `cause this is gator country. you never know what's gonna come up for a nibble. uh-oh... uh-oh, look out. here comes trouble. (gunshot) (laughs) oh, lord have mercy. that was close. dude, it's fake. oh yeah? why don't you stick your hand in her mouth and tell me how fake she is?

camp pendleton near san diego, is home.think of a more romantic place than new orleans or the bayou. that said, hold on to your sweetheart `cause this is gator country. you never know what's gonna come up for a nibble. uh-oh... uh-oh, look out. here comes trouble. (gunshot) (laughs) oh, lord have mercy. that was close. dude, it's fake. oh yeah? why don't you stick your hand in her mouth and tell me how fake she is?

camp pendleton near san diego, is home.s or the bayou. that said, hold on to your sweetheart `cause this is gator country. you never know what's gonna come up for a nibble. uh-oh... uh-oh, look out. here comes trouble. (gunshot) (laughs) oh, lord have mercy. that was close. dude, it's fake. oh yeah? why don't you stick your hand in her mouth and tell me how fake she is? that one looks way

pendleton goes to 99 tomorrow. 101 for boise. it's not just there. the southwest, the monsoon flow adds to that heat and thunderstorms could produce damaging winds near phoenix. >> everyone has something. thanks so much. >>> to california now and a firestorm tonight over that controversial vaccination bill now signed into law by governor jerry brown requiring vaccines for virtually every child regardless of religion or what parents think is best for their child. abc's chief medical editor dr. richard besser now. >> reporter: today, the governor of california signed into law one of the toughest vaccine bills in the country. all children attending school must be fully vaccinated unless they have a medical reason not to be. no longer will parents be able to opt out based on their personal or religious beliefs. california legislators responding to the largest outbreak of measles the state has seen in years. >> how many children have to die before we do something? >> reporter: while anti-vaccine parents protested. >> this legislation won't change parents'

charlestonians settled in pendleton. that was their summertime homes up in our neck of the woods. i think there's a lot of history out there. and you just got to get involved with your kids and take them out and do it, because, unfortunately, we have taken education now, mr. loftis and driven it to testing. everything is around testing and numbers and how well we do. not about the content of things like our history in our heads. it's more of other things. and you're funding is predicated on how well you test or you don't test. and i think we've gotten a little off balance with that and we're not teaching the history of the state and how we became the people we are. it's important that we teach it, not relive it. and i think that's the main thing that we need to take out of this debate here that we're having with the confederate flag, with the history of our state, and the legacy that we choose to leave our children. i think that's very important. i think it's very important to show them that we're doing it in the proper way. we are adults. we're not going to scream and yell and ca

in camp pendleton, they had 50 cases of sexual assault alleged. now, 10 of those cases were from spouses. so you have an issue with domestic violence that's important to look at. you also had 18 who were civilian. 28 out of 50 are not part of our survey. so when we surveyed the d.o.d. surveyed serks you'll assault last year they estimated 20,000. that doesn't include civilians or spouses. more than half of your camp pendleton cases aren't counted in those numbers. the other statistics of the service members was 216789 the other thing i want you to be aware of a challenge we have in responding appropriately among your spouses, eight withdrew their complaint within a year. they didn't have confidence in the system. they no longer wanted to prosecute. of your civilian complainants, eight withdraw and of your service members, eight withdrew. so nearly half of the cases that were reported. to report a case you have to put your name on the bottom line, you typically get a rape kit, which is very invasive. it is now public. for them to withdraw nearly ha

catch the train, the blue ridge train from pendleton down to belton. two days in belton waiting for other companies to come in from pickens and greenville, two days later, the camaraderie of soldiers. 800 of this unit at the battle of first manassas, joined by 400 of louisiana tigers. the first 1200 to see the advance over bull run. the very troops that gave stonewall jackson his moniker. called for furlough there in 1861, reorganized in 1862. as a company of my coaching can, palmetto sharpshooters -- micah jenkins, palmetto sharpshooters. thoughts of war became more ominous. but with the campaign war israel at this point. the battle of 7 -- the war is real at this point. the battle of seven pints in july. william davis jackson -- william davis dixon was one of 12 from the palmetto sharpshooters, what was known as the crack regiment in robert e lee's now famous army of northern virginia. he had just taken the command a few days prior. a good and open field, as william bayless describes it, and reluctant to give up the colors because of the portentous t

pick out the names, hadiya pendleton, this list goes on and on. we've got to stop.n put another 10,000 police officers on the street. what will happen? maybe we'll arrest mr. brown 90 times and nothing will happen. maybe we'll take another 10,000 guns off the street and another 10,000 will fill up that illegal market the next day. i'm incredibly proud of the men and women of this department who, in spite of what i'm talking about, go out every single day and do what they do. we need some help here folks. we have to fix this broken system. >> mccarthy pointed out that since friday morning, police have recovered one illegal gun per hour across this city. compared to last year, the number of violent incidents is slightly down. if you're being looking for the same period in 2014 there were 41 shootings and 7 killed. to hear the superintendent say he's angry, when you talk about the 7-year-old how are people in his neighborhood responding to this? >> reporter: well i'm sure people are happy to hear the frustration coming from the superintendent but so many people are dea

. >> reporter: despite the frustration, the pendletons will not quit.ey feel will never go away. >> you don't want other people to feel the way they have felt but there have been thousands of other families who have joined this fraternity that no one wants to be a part of. >> that was ron nobles reporting from chicago. >>> republican presidential candidate donald trump continues to ruffle feathers and his rivals on the issue might surprise you. the details are coming up next. when you don't get enough sleep... and your body aches... you're not yourself. tylenol® pm relieves pain and helps you fall fast asleep and stay asleep. we give you a better night. you're a better you all day. tylenol®. >>> the debate on immigration in the u.s. is growing and republican presidential candidate donald trump is leading the charge right now. >> he is but his stance on the issue is causing a rift with other presidential candidates even ones in his own party. >> they're not sending their best. >> reporter: republicans are racing away from donald trump whose controversial

cleopatra, nathaniel pendleton, thank you for being with us. message and a personal one on this. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> coming up president obama heads to the pentagon to talk about the fight against isis. our terrorism analyst will weigh in on the battle against the terror group and the president's strategy. >>> president obama is getting ready to those the pentagon for an update on the fight against isis. he's meeting with the military leaders in the next hour after a major offensive over the weekend by coalition forces battling the terror group. the u.s.-led coalition forces unleashed a wave of air strikes against isis fighters in syria as well as iraq and among them were 18 strikes in raqqa, an isis stronghold in syria. with me to talk more about this we have our terrorism analyst phil mudd and paul cruickshank. i want to start with, you phil on this. what do you expect from this meeting with president obama at the pentagon? >> if you look at what's happened over the past year, if you're an optimist -- and nobody in washington on t

. >> reporter: despite the frustration, the pendletons will not quit because the pain they feel willfeel it. feel what we have felt. there have been thousands of other families who have unfortunately have. >> the 7-year-old boy's father who police believe was the intended target of the shooting is he now cooperating with authorities? >> no anderson he is not cooperating with police. frankly they're not surprised. they believe he was a high-level member of a chicago gang. and one police officer told me today those gangs have their own system of justice. >> ryan appreciate you booing with us. the police superintendent, i spk to him before air. superintendent, the 7-year-old boy who was killed you say the system failed him. how so? how did it fail him? >> in this case the intended target was the victim's father. and the victim's father was arrested 45 times, the last time for a firearm here in chicago back in april. he bonded out the next day. i'm sorry but if you are arrested 45 times you shouldn't be on the street especially when your last one was a gun possession. should have been a

pendleton was asked ultimately to draft and pass the civil service act creating tests for people to get jobs and to create the civil service commission. only 10% of federal jobs were covered at the beginning, but obviously, it set the whole stage for everything that we have here in washington now. and it passed january of 1883. it is the legacy of garfield that came because, obviously, his passing. konkling was furious with him. to his amazement, when they met, chester arthur told him, your behavior with is outrageous. he realized he was powerless to control the man who he had created and he went back in his room sick with rage. he felt this betrayal was even worse than when the legislature hadn't renamed him to be senator from new york. arthur was an honest, decent president. not a great one, but certainly for the time did a good job job. that said, the republicans did not renominate him for president after his term ended. and, instead, the republicans nominated james blain, who ran against grover cleveland and grover cleveland turned out to be the only democrat elected between abraham

reverend walter pendleton says after he accused da mathis of selectively prosecuting minorities mathis texted him with threats. mathis reportedly told him -- "you're too stupid to know what that word means. the prosecutor excited texted " "my hounds ain't even started yet dumb ass...when i talk people will listen. keep talking and i will sue your ass for slander." i am saying these words because they were chronicled in the paper. in response to: prominent reverence concerns. >> you never want to have a public official engage in that kind of rhetoric and -- there is no question there is an atmosphere where african-americans are having difficulties with the way we are dealt with with the police in many instances. not all of the time, but there's no question that we as a community, we feel targeted in some way. you know, i don't make any bones about the fact that we as african american people have every right to assert our rights. when i look at sandy and i see that she is doing nothing more than saying, i want to be treated the right way, i want to be treated equal i say, i celebrate you

let's bring in devon pendleton.s of rich ceos in finance, but very few become billionaires in this position. i love this story. his father was a postal worker in the united states. he went on to read law. it is a success story. is he the academy of the american dream? devon: he grew up in brooklyn to being a billionaire and the head of one of the most reviled or celebrated banks in america. it is remarkable. manus: i think the only other one in the same league is jp morgan's jamie dimon. he is on the same path. devon: the of them are remarkable. ar ceos. they did not build the banks from the ground up, but they have become billionaires through the banks because they own shares, have good salaries and have had the quiddity events in their careers. for blankfein that was the ipo with the big windfall. her jamie dimon it was a $110 million exit package from citigroup. manus: you say i like the plague fine story perhaps more because i have more empathy -- i like the blankfein story perhaps more because i have more empat

my dad ended up in camp pendleton. my mom and myself were in arkansas.got reunited in santa cruz california. >> through their long and arduous journey, tam's parents were grateful to the u.s. military for getting them to america safely. they soon became american citizens and began build agnew life. his mother who worked in a nail salon in vietnam was able to get recertified and licensed in california. tam's parents created the advanced beauty college and became pioneers in helping to create little saigon the largest vietnamese community in the world outside of vietnam. their nail business and school has a big hollywood connection as well. the popular actress tippihedron who starred in the birds. sponsors the first 20 veet nunesis women. >> little did she know she was creating an industry. this school was second generation owners with my sister and i is the largest man curing program in the nation. graduating over 38,000 graduates over the years. and with successful graduates, entrepreneurs. >> many magazines have written about tam's family. the school an

senator tillis a test to that down at camp pendleton. it's very nice. not perfect. it's good enough, but it's new. we're going to have to sustain that. i think sergeant major barrett's concern is how can we sustain it. if we can't meet that what are the marines going to do? at the same time, that's important, but to me it's more important that the training we give them and the equipment we give them has parts maintainable, interesting, and is going to improve our operational capability. and we've done that, so maintaining that level, i think what his concern is much of that is tied to resources. >> quality of life issues access to child care, access to medical facilities are critical, but soldiers, marines, understand that if they're not well trained, well equipped and ready to go that's the big quality of life issue because that means they survive or they don't survive. we have to work with that. my time is expired. one we had a brief chat in the office. the next battle we fight the first phase will be cyber dominated. we'll be fighting in the dark. perhaps there'l

, the presidential veto of the carriage of passengers at sea bill, the river and harbor act, and pendletonivil service reform act. we talked earlier about civil service reform being the key issue of the time. what happened with that? guest: just like social security, to some degree civil rights, things come in increments and descended of being the first major piece of legislation that started to make the first real prevention of the spoils system of basically the political system. remember, federal employees could be fired. people who work in the treasury building. we think of those people today as career bureaucrats are people working as federal employees they could all be fired and whoever was in power would then appoint whoever they wanted. it was not only unfair but it was inefficient. arthur really takes those first steps and he puts the first efforts in in terms of building a modern u.s. navy. while the chinese exclusion act was really an awful thing in terms of just about right active bigotry, are for have supported something that was far less stressed than what passed. -- less stri

in camp pendleton for 2013 they had 60 cases of such an assault alleged. 10 of those cases were spouses they have an issue with domestic violence that's important to look at. you've also had 18 who are civilians. 28 out of 50 are not part of our survey. at least -- when the dod service sector also last year estimate 20,000 sexual assaults, but does include civilians to spouses. more than half of the cases are not even counted in those numbers. the other statistic of the service number 21 to the other thing to be aware of because of the challenge and responded improperly among your spouses eight withdrew their complaint within a year. they can have confidence in the system. pages no longer wanted to prosecute. of the surveillance pashtun civilians -- eight withdrew. and half of these cases that were reported, to report the case you got to put your name on the bottom line duplicate a rape kit which is invasive. anyone the situation is now public. for them to withdraw nearly half to withdraw within figure does not show confidence in the system. that brings us to what senator mccaskill rate

the same thing at tampa pendleton. it's very nice, not perfect it is good enough but it is new and will have to sustain the. i think sergeant majors concern is how do we sustain it create an expectation that we can meet and if we can't meet that what areof the marines going to do. at the same time that's important, to me it's more important the training we give them and the equipment we give them passports maintainable training this challenge it, you may become interesting and it will improve our operational capability. and we've done that. some maintain maintaining that level i think is what is conservatism and much of that is tied to resources. >> my impression has always been quality of life issues, access to childcare, access to medical facilities are critical but soldiers and marines understand if they are not well-trained well-equipped and ready to go that's the big called it of life issue because that means the shabaab or they don't survive and the mission gets is accomplished or it doesn't get accomplish. my ti

and this is for the year of 2013 at camp pendleton, there were 15 cases considered. two court martial charges preferred, two proceeded to trial, two convicted of sexual assault. 2-15 went forward. what we know about the crime of rape it has very little false reporting. some estimate between 2% and 5%. in those cases you get 10% of those cases to move forward. i think we have to do better in terms of doing the investigations assessing viket and correct of witnesses and bringing cases to trial because 2-15 is not a great rate. those are challenges that you have. this committee is interested in it and i hope you will work with me and the rest of us on trying to end the scurge of sexual violence because it does result in people leaving the military. they are experiencing assault. admiral richardson: you have my full commitment. we can't rest until sexual assault is eliminated from the services. i can't think anything more toxic to team work that preys upon the confidence of team members. i'm committed to eliminating this. senator gillibrand: one of your challenges is in

corporal charles pendleton united states army. he was man add machine gun and carbine during multiple waves of enemy attacks. first lieutenant james stone united states army led his troops in a last ditch stand of a vital outpost. he exposed himself to enemy fire to protect his platoon when the assault swept over his position, mortally wounded lieutenant stone urged his men to continue to fight. master sergeant travis watkins united states army led 30 of his men to sur round the enemy. through his leadership a small force of those 30 men destroyed 500 of the enemy before abandoning their position. paralyzed sergeant watkins refused his evacuation as his condition would slow down his comrades. corporate victor espinoza united states army. during an attack he single-handedly had a machine gun mortar motion, taking a heavy toll on the enemy with 14 dead and 11 wounded. master sergeant mike pena united states army. after ordering his men to fall back during a pierce attack he manned a machine gun to cover their withdrawal. he single h

in camp pendleton for 2013, they had 50 cases of sexual assault, alleged. ten cases were from spouses. you have an issue with domestic violence that is important to look at. you have 18 w40 are civilian. who 28 out of 50 who are not part of the survey. when we surveyed sexual assault last year, it doesn't include civilians or spouses. so more than half of the cases are not counted in those numbers. the other statistic with service members s 21. this is a challenge we have, among your spouses 8 withdrew their complaint within a year. they no longer wanted to prosecute. of the civilian complaintant as eight withdrew. so to report a case, you have to put your name on the bottom line, you get a rape kit. and it's public. it does not show confidence in the system. so that brings us the issue of retaliation. and how much retaliation is existing? we know that someone who reported a rape was retaliated against in the process. and it comes in all forms. 53% social, peer to peer. 35% administrative. 32% professional, 11% a punishment. so more than half of the cases t

thumbnail sketch of data that we got from one naval base and this is for the year of 2013 at camp pendleton, there were 15 cases considered, two court-martial charges preferred, two proceeded to trial, two convicted of sexual assault. so two out of 15 went forward. what we know about the crime of rape it has very little false reporting. some estimate between 2% and 5% are false reports. so in those cases, you are only able to get about 10% cases to move forward. so i think we have to do better in terms of doing the investigations assessing viability of witnesses and credibility of witnesses and bringing more cases to trial, because two out of 15 is not a great rate. so those are challenges that you will have. this committee is very interested in it. i hope you will make a commitment that you will work with me and the rest of us on trying to end the scourge of sexual violence, because it does result, unfortunately, in a lot of people leaving the military, and so a lot of your women a lot of your men are leaving because they are experiencing assault within their own ranks. >> ma'am you have m

the year of 2013 at camp pendleton 15 cases were considered. to court-martial charges, too convicted of sexual assault. two out of 15 went forward. what we know about the crime of rape. and those cases you were on the able to get 10% to move forward. i think we have to do better in terms of doing investigations and assessing viability of witnesses and credibility of witnesses and bring in more cases to trial because two out of 15 is not raise rates. those are challenges you will have with committees they're interested. i hope you make a commitment you will work with me and the rest of us it does result in people live in the military. they are experiencing assaults in their own ranks. >> ma'am, you have my full commitment i will spare no effort to eliminate. we can't rest until it is eliminated from services. i can't think of anything more toxic due to mark than an insider threat that preys upon the confidence of team members. i'm fully devoted to eliminating us. >> the lower command structures in the last survey by men responded to experiencing

there was a minister from massachusetts, reverend pendleton, who started saying these vile things from the pulpit. and then much like the situation with the illegitimate child, kind of what we would now call today getting out in front of the story, frances writes a letter that is sent to all the papers. and as we're talking about, you know, she's not supposed to be political and she's supposed to kind of stay in her sphere, but this letter goes out over her signature that says that i wish that all of the women of this country were as fortunate as i to have such a kind and caring husband. but here's the interesting thing about that letter. even though it's her signature, it's not her hand-- if you look at the actual letter in the grover cleveland papers, it's not her handwriting. it was written by daniel lamont, who was essentially the chief of staff. susan: so it was crafted within the administration? annette: it was crafted within the administration, and it was their political way to deal with it. taylor: but some these contradictions are, when we're talking about grover cleveland and

also john says john pendleton says no muslim koran teaches them to lie to us. so iran will not abide by it no matter what is say said. >> diplomacy is always best as much as we can. we must try diplomacy as much as we can. >> for example, this meeting you had republicans shouting at a hearing, not really asking questions. just shouting what do you think -- asking questions. the same thing applies in iran. so when the ayatollah is saying, death to america, death to israel. but then, at the same time says, guess what we don't really want nuclear weapons anyway. it's our decision to say, we don't want it. we have to read through the lines. he's really saying, you're going to agree with the treaty. but at the same time, he's talking to the masses trying to you know make sure the same thing with the republicans. yes, not really listening and asking questions. so when people just listen like they don't really understand what is going on they have to take a step back. and not be brainwashed. russia and china and all these people don't want countries having nuclear wea

are you a marine because they had been laying on the ocean side comments and i got married at camp pendleton so i said are you marine and he said, yeah. are you active duty because if he was given his age that meant there would be a couple of stars on his shoulder and he said yeah. i said are you a general and he said yes as very self-effacing as general legals are and isa general, i'm sorry i have been rambling on and on thinking to myself my father-in-law were he alive would be so deeply ashamed of me. i have grown to know and love and respect the service that both of them have given an merle it's military spouses serve alongside their men and women in uniform, so filomena would you stand up and let everyone say hello. [applause]. >> i went to thank the library for having me tonight. i brought along a bag of props, which will explain themselves as we go along and i also want thank my los angeles home the answer the media group of which i am apart and we have great sponsors that are here tonight first off. the money guys california deluxe windows at radio would not exist in america but for

one, they are taking off iraq and taking a piece that was fought for by my marines at camp pendleton others and turning it upside down by oppressing sunnis and creating the foment, if you will, that has allowed isis to grow in the region. then you go three years ago right here in washington dc, iran's attempts to assassinate saudi arabia's ambassador. right here in the united states in washington dc. so, do we trust them enough to put an embassy in toronto -- teh ran? no. we trust them enough to lift the sanctions, get the economy rich enough to buy weapons and support terrorism? remember, nobody is taking them off the list of state-sponsored terrorism. host: the president said yesterday, though, he is not trusting, he is verified. guest: that is nice to say, but he is trusting enough to lift the sanctions as though they are going to keep it. the reality is the sanctions were working. under george w. bush, not known to be great at depomed exhalations, we discover nuclear materials heading to libya. the president made a simple choice. maybe it was going to have to face greater sanctio

and most importantly, 1883 pendleton civil service reform act, and we talked earlier about civil service reform being the key issue of the time, so what happened with that in this administration? anthony: well, it was a first step. and, you know, just sort of like social security or, you know certain degree of -- to some degree, civil rights, you know things come in increments. and so arthur's, you know, support of that and -- you know, ended up being the very first major piece of legislation that started to, you know, make the first real prevention of the spoil system, of basically the political system. remember, federal employees could be fired. people who, you know, worked in the treasury building, people who, you know, we think of today as career, you know, bureaucrats or, you know, people working as federal employees could all be fired. and whoever was in power would then, you know, appoint who -- it was, you know, whoever they wanted. it was not only unfair, it was inefficient. and so arthur really takes the first steps. he also, i should say, puts the first, you know, efforts in,

charlestonians settled in pendleton. that was their summertime homes up in our neck of the woods. i think there's a lot of history out there. and you just got to get involved with your kids and take them out and do it, because, unfortunately, we have taken education now, mr. loftis and driven it to testing. everything is around testing and numbers and how well we do. not about the content of things like our history in our heads. it's more of other things. and you're funding is predicated on how well you test or you don't test. and i think we've gotten a little off balance with that and we're not teaching the history of the state and how we became the people we are. it's important that we teach it, not relive it. and i think that's the main thing that we need to take out of this debate here that we're having with the confederate flag, with the history of our state, and the legacy that we choose to leave our children. i think that's very important. i think it's very important to show them that we're doing it in the proper way. we are adults. we're not going to scream and yell and ca