i want to first get your thoughts on james comey who contends that the post-snowden pendulum has swungar in one direction. you write in wire that is not the case at all. tell us why you think that. >> well, thanks for having me on, alex. i appreciate it. i think listening to director comey last week one would be hard pressed to understand that since the snowden revelation there has been no pendulum swing at all as it comes to government policy, no changes to government surveillance authority in the year and a half since the snowden revelation so the notion the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction is very hard to believe. >> it also -- the idea that the government would be cracking down on what is a market driven development in terms of technology would seem to go against the recommendation of the nsa task force which c concluded the u.s. government should take additional steps to promote security by making clear that it will not in any way subvert, undermine, weaken, or make vulnerable generally available commercial encryption. i mean, isn't that what the government is doi

we need to create policies around those that move us off the edges of the pendulum. we to make certain that it is not to the point where the financial institutions across this country, not the big banks but the committee banks in the , theyt and credit unions can't afford to make one mistake. there has to be the ability to be prudent and meet the obligations of qualified mortgages. host: we have just a few more minutes. john is in michigan. caller: congress is up there fighting, i lost my house. i borrowed against it in 2000 for my business. i got cut up in the fha deal. i had 25 years of work in that house. i was -- it was paid for until i mortgage it. i am rural america. everything i do is cash. i don't go looking for money anymore. i have a nice house now. it is all paid for. the guy down the street got the same can of property and paid cash for it. everybody is up there fist fighting and talking about rules , we are doing it cash. we still know how to swing hammers and use paintbrushes. you guys have a good day. you have to commend john for his ability to get out

the pendulum is swung to the large mid caps. something will be happening again. they are again going to find they have to go down a bit more in pricing. european markets had been .ullied by the prospect of qe i think the growth prospects meaningfully improve. think it is until it comes down. >> which is going to profit in a low interest rate environment? >> it is low debt to equity. in a way high leverage companies benefit. stable growth., you will have flow growth in maine -- slow growth in maine economies. get a rise into dividend stream. they could become far more expensive than they are now. there is a range of sectors. there is a good range of stocks we are looking at. about ukip.k the u.k. independence party, who wants to take britain out of the european union. defendant held the seat with 60% of the vote. it puts more pressure on david cameron. that is a shock. really fascinated, the fact that the stronghold has been that way since 1983. they were taken right to the brink. you challenge them on both sides. how much does that defined the debate for the elec

we need to create policies around those that move us off the edges of the pendulum.e to make certain that it is not to the point where the financial institutions across this country, not the big banks but the committee banks in the , theyt and credit unions can't afford to make one mistake. there has to be the ability to be prudent and meet the obligations of qualified mortgages. host: we have just a few more minutes. john is in michigan. caller: congress is up there fighting, i lost my house. i borrowed against it in 2000 for my business. i got cut up in the fha deal. i had 25 years of work in that house. i was -- it was paid for until i mortgage it. i am rural america. everything i do is cash. i don't go looking for money anymore. i have a nice house now. it is all paid for. the guy down the street got the same can of property and paid cash for it. everybody is up there fist fighting and talking about rules , we are doing it cash. we still know how to swing hammers and use paintbrushes. you guys have a good day. you have to commend john for his ability to get out o

this is like the pendulum. this is like edgar allen poe stuff. >> you take tushes beating little kids with a -- turns beating little kids with a ball. >> whoever gets to the ball first probably gets to sling it. >> this bird needs a little help getting out of its nest. >> it is an owl, and it is broad daylight, appears to have gotten caught up in the net. owls don't have good vision during the day time. we will take that thing down. >> soccer nets are incredibly dangerous to wildlife. >> they are. this is in michigan where viewer amy ward sent us the video of a rescue because they called aaron, back to the wild rehab with michigan, and she is trying to get this bird out, and you can just see how big the wings are as she's trying to negotiate with thing. eventually the owl does get free, she does free it. >> good job aaron, you're a hero. >> she wants to check it out and make sure it's okay to release back into the wild. >> does the owl ever say hoooo are you? >> that would be funny, but eventually she does let

once the reality set in, the pendulum swung. >> i saw a line about the season being suspended.ore anybody knew what this was about. but david mcgill, i got to tell you, i am not easily shocked, and i never had any hazing in any of the high school teams that i was on. i actually went to three different high school, was on a couple of different football teams, baseball team, basketball teams. >> right. >> and there was never any hazing in it. and i'm sure there's hazing around the country in different places. but i, there's no what anybody can tell me this is something that's happened, that is kind of common or grows out of some other tradition and makes some sort of crazy sense if you're following some tradition of hazing. this is wildly beyond the imagination of anybody i ever knew in a high school locker room. >> mr. o'donnell, this is beyond the pale, and as greg just said, once the, in the beginning when dr. labbe explained this, there was a lot of confusion and anger, but once it was explained to the parents what the allegations were, how far the, allegedly, the students ha

. >> harold: amazing how the pendulum has swung. this isn't like the giants bull pen isn't a lock down bull pen either. >> joe: here's gordon. right guy is coming up to do something about a three-run deficit, gordon, cain, and hosmer. >> harold: joe, you were talking about the bull pen and just their ability to challenge. i love affeldt able to go righties and lefties. >> joe: he is not just a matchup left-hander and he will have the right-handed hitting cain next. that is into left field. slicing. perez. one out. >> harold: joe, again, dead on it because this would have been possibly ishikawa or morse, they don't get to this ball. bochy loves to stay with his defense. when this game is close you think you pinch-hit for perez. a one-run game or tie game, you leave him in. they break it open and get a three-run lead and the defense pays off. >> tom: terrific play. that ball working away from him the entire time. >> joe: here is lorenzo cain who is 2 for 3. ball one upstairs from affeldt, who was with kansas city at the beginning of h

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you.ank you talked about the enforcement side of this, and you mentioned the pendulum swing from the snowden disclosures, but you did not talk about the nsa and others. one of the things we have learned from the snowden disclosures is the nsa found ways around encryption at ogle and other places by going in to the communications of servers. when apple and google make these announcements, clearly they are trying to demonstrate to the germans or brazilians or anyone who is outraged by these disclosures that there is no they have deliberately thrown away the key so that the nsa cannot do that in their systems. as he sensibly was going on here. i have not heard yet from the administration any guarantee that created the kind of portal that you have described, front or back your, that there would then be assurances that the nsa would not do again what was disclosed to have been done before. tell us about the discussion inside the administration about how you provide those assurances. >> go ahead. >> a good question. i do not think i am in a position to talk about discussions inside the adm

i suggest it is time that the post-snowden pendulum be seen as having swung too far in one direction, in a direction of fear. and mistrust. i think it is time to have a debate about liberty and security. some have suggested there's a conflict between liberty and security that you have to give up a little of one to receive some of the other. i reject that framework. i think when we are at our best in law enforcement, we are looking to enhance security and liberty. when a city posts police officers on a dangerous playground, liberty has been promoted. promoted liberty. the freedom to let a childplay without fear. people in the f.b.i. are stworn provide both. it is not a question for us of conflict. we care deeply about protecting liberty through due process, while also safeguarding citizens we're are here to protect. where do we go? these are tough issues. finding the space and time in our lives is hard, so i'm grateful to brookings for carving out some space for us. intelligent people can disagree, and that is also what is great about american life, smart people disagreeing to come to

i think if we are going to avoid this pendulum of ignoring regions until fires break out and burn our fingers, we need to add central american think of north america in a more strategic way. this is a complement to mexico. parsons,s working with who is now a central bank had, the three central bankers in north america are world-class, he was finance minister. he was the first mexican finance minister i met who would meet regularly with the central american finance ministers because x ago often treated central america with some of the distance we treated mexico. that will not work if you want to deal with the underlying problems. it helps to have latin americans deal with central america as well as gringos from the north. >> one of the examples you cite on nafta with the she's not followed through on is the issue of mexican truckers. the mexican trucks by 2000 were supposed to be able to go through the united states. >> much earlier. 45 mexicant out trucks are permitted. >> individual tracks. not companies. >> of the 14,000 that cross print them less and less of the 14,000 across -- of

. >> nowadays, if i really had to guess or pinpoint something, i would say the pendulum is swinging toward sort of "john green lit," as people call it-- contemporary, realistic stories about teens facing everyday things in their lives. >> reporter: young adult author john green's "the fault in our stars," a teenage tear-jerker about young lovers battling cancer, has been a juggernaut for the industry, selling more than ten million copies and grossing more than $300 million worldwide when it was released as a film this past summer, a trend that might please lowry. >> you have to tell a good story, and you have to create characters that a young adult audience will care about and will follow along, turning pages, turning pages. >> this is pbs newshour weekend, saturday. >> sreenivasan: in recent weeks, almost every bit of news out of africa has been about the outbreak of ebola. before that, the capture of hundreds of school girls by boko what ram militants. now some photojournalists are using instagram to try to depict a furl version of life on that continent. >> reporter: a woman hanging lau

which way will the pendulum swing? rich edson joins us from the white house.much focus on the senate. it that appropriate? >> it is. it is up for grabs. these are the six or seven states that the republicans think that they can win. these are states where president obama, by the way, is not campaigning right now. he lost these states in 2012. nationwide approval ratings have pretty much fallen. 41% say that they approve of the president job. as for who these folks want to control congress next year, 47% say republicans. this is a tough season for democrats. >> i am not going to sugarcoat it. it is a tough terrain. here is the thing. i have never seen anything like this where you have braces five days before an election that neither side can call. i will tell you i think next election night will be a long night. we will certainly be watching. liz: 10 races too close to call. we will see if the landscape in d.c. changes. "the closing bell" ringing in about 49 and its. lisa is leading the charge. that is not the only story. a horribly uncomfortable position. what

doesn't know exactly what the technical fix here aught to be but he did say that the post-snowden pendulum needs to swing back to law enforcement. >>> a warning from chipotle put a damper on its earnings report. that's where we begin tonight's market focus tp mexican fast casual chain saw sales soar in its latest quarter with results that topped estimates, but the company did warn that sales growth may slow down next year and that sent shares down initially after hours. during the regular trading session, the stock was almost 2% higher to 653.03. but you see the slide after hours. ncr saw its shares tumble after its outlook disappointed investors. the company which makes point of sales devices and atms cut its guidance for the year citing weak innocence the retail industry and fear over customer security data. and shares off 21%. 21% to 23.54. hasbro says strong sales in its boys division which includes transformers and marvel toys helped its quarterly results. earnings topped estimates. revenue in line with what the forecasts thought. and the parent of north face and other clothing brands

the pendulum swings.n 2006, 2 thousand seven, if you could breathe, you could get a mortgage. >> mike cannot get one, either. >> it is a huge opportunity for you with the banks being so inflexible. but the pendulum does swing. the question is, when it swings back, what happens to your business? >> guys, thank you so much. michael cagney, the chairman and ceo of sofi capital. the parent company of ce -- the -- plus, did amazon cut a deal in europe that barely shifts profits and avoid higher taxes? that is what regulators want to know about jeff bezos. ♪ >> you are watching "in the loop " live on bloomberg television. good morning. i'm betty liu. here is a look at top headlines. a nurse in spain is the first case of ebola outside africa. contact ---old woman contracted the disease after treating a priest who died last month. suspicious cases are being monitored. time warner's turner broadcasting division is cutting 10% of its workforce. the job cuts are part of becoming a path water initiative to improve it

the famous polish historian said that history is like a pendulum in central europe. we are always too much pro west and look up to the west but we are hurt by never giving to the standards so we try to denounce west. this is the dynamic that is going on for ages. i'm afraid that hungary is simply getting pendulum back now night is not really our fault? it is the dialect? >> well, it is our fault because we thought that the pendulum is never going to go back. so we set everything on autopilot. that is why i was criticizing the technical aspect of assistance. >> got it. sorry about that. how about the gentleman from the second row in the end there. yes, thank you. >> hello. i'm ed reagan, fellow at the national endowment for democracy and problem i think one of the only africans in here. i come from sim bock way where, you know the state is captured all institutions as you know. but i see the international community, including the united states, supporting the same programs. i think you spoke about same programs. civil society being castigated for being too political b

as it was in that 20 year period from 1975-1995, but it is slowing down and they need -- >> the pendulum one way on growth, radically the other and it is trying to find -- >> exactly. >> and fairness, the 1970's were bad for many economies, not just fashion. you said dilma is likely to win a second round. she got more than 40% in the second round -- in the first run, will she do anything different in the second round? somee is probably learned lessons or she will be a better politician. >> and managing the economy? >> i don't seem thing dramatically changing. i guess i hope i am wrong. lot for granted from brazil. let's get the photos. >> we're covering a lot of ground. number three, the two ladies in arlington, virginia who were just married, exiting the courthouse. i believe there are the first same-sex marriage couple in arlington county, virginia. in marriage is also legal indiana, you talk of obama, and wisconsin -- utah, oklahoma, and wisconsin. >> it was a shock yesterday. the sophisticates on this case were stunned. by this announcement. >> the supreme court. >> i think it is lov

. >>> by the end of 1943 the pendulum swung in favor of the allies. >> the air gap that existed in thec was closed. liberators were able to strike u-boats in the mid-atlantic. the convoy system had finally been honed and detailed. >> now they have radar. they have recruit sonar. they are breaking the codes of german submarine messages that are being sent. >> the shipbuilding effort were able to crank out more ships than being sunk. >> it was a combination of all these factors. >> we were well on our way to winning the war in the atlantic. many merchant ships had to brave the seas alone. >> we were traveling alone. on our ship we had ten navy boys and one 14-inch gun and two ..50 caliber machine guns and that's all we had. >> the american leader was a c 1 class vessel. it was a little over 400-feet long. we left new york on the 26th of april in 1942. we had a full cargo of war supplies consigned to the russians and british. bob wire, army boots and nine twin engine bombers on deck. we red in the paper that the german navy had two radars operating in the atlantic ocean. everybody knew th

getting that pendulum swinging back and forth is something we will be working on for a long time. >>an you say yet whether the capital restrictions are exacerbating volatility because you cannot provide liquidity in certain markets the way you once were able to? -- you cannot say trace that in a linear way. these fears about dodd-frank and liquidity and what is happening in corporate credit may be overblown? >> like anything, you have to wait until you get through. you cannot take the last two days which have been different from two days before that. overall, the amount leveraged in the system is down which is good but that will have another affect which will the it will cause less i timothy and less liquidity. figuring this out will take time but is the responsible leader people like ourselves and my colleagues and the experts we have to figure out how to get this right to avoid the excesses before we provide liquidity. that is still a work in progress. >> a selloff was triggered in part by concerns over european growth. the data is terrible. how much you worry about europe? the dat

the pendulum swings one way and it will swing another. >> charles: let's leave it there. i want you to stay tuned because i got a lot of disparate tweets. i know this a tough time for a little of people. this is a good time for this show to gain your trust. i want to talk about building your portfolio for an average investor. more people you're invited. cb payne. use the hashtag ask payne. post it to the facebook page. keep it right here if you want to make some money. >> charles: all right. coming up in one minute. a tyrant who literally fell off his perch. it's a little tense. we're going to have fun with this one. stay tuned. >> charles: north korea an leader king jung unapparently sprained both of his ankles because he was wearing cuban heels. you should see the shoes he was wearing. allegedly it was when he was maintaining his forces when he tripped over his high he's like. reportedly he was hospitalized and even had to undergo surgery. will you change your mind and stop wearing cuban heels. >> if i'm 5-foot five i'd throw cuban heels too. >> there are cool people th

the pendulum was too far to the other end. now it's to the other side.ood creditworthy people can't get loans we need a balance i think it's swinging back. i think we are going in the right direction, and with the changes described, i think we'll get there, we are not there yet. >> mark zandy, an are chief economist at moody's analytics. we learnt that fanny mae will let some borrowers put as little as 3% down on a mortgage. the government is trying to encourage banks to issue more loans. freddy mack is expected to follow suit. these low-money down loans are potentially dangerous and could encourage people to bite off more than that can chew. in response to concerns the regulator said if they are sold bad loans they can force banks to buy them back. >> next, imagine turning your tap for a drink of water and nothing comes out. that is happening in one town in california. the drought turned wells dry and residents are forced to take drastic measures. i'll take you there when we come back. >>> just how bad is the drought in california. well, be glad you don

then we'll see the pendulum go the other way.bers, you've got to begin to wonder, too many people piled into this strategy. >> can't wait to read your piece tomorrow. see you toon. jim stewart from "the new york times." >>> just want to mention what's happening to semiconductors. nasdaq is down the best part of 1.5% as a lot of these plays get hit badly. semiconductor index is below its 200 day moving average. we'll return to the semiconductors ahead in the show. >>> up next, an exclusive interview with the ceo of keycorp on all this volatility. in town to receive an award as the most powerful woman in banking in this country. she's still the one for you. and cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop

the pendulum is swinging back to maybe we need them doing this stuff again. what do you say? >> there's two issues that we have to look at here when we talk about external threats. first, nsa's roles and responsibilities are s foreign he intelligence. there has to be a foreign intelligence nexus that they can see that then points back into the country so we can help tip off the fbi and local law enforcement. neil: wouldn't the local guys here -- a lot of this is coming from local information here of bad guys here. >> right. so that's the second part. i think what you're referring to, is there a possibility for a program similar to what nsa does on the foreign side for a domestic application. there maybe. i don't know. i've looked at this sacramento killings. our hearts and prayers go to the families of these officers, but i don't know there's actually a nexus that intelligence could help. i think the real question, is there a way we could use domestic or our law enforcement capabilities to help with programs like this. i don't see it yet because i don't see the connection to

you never know what they will do chavment over the last few weeks the pendulum said we'll hold off to qe they'll go with that, but they'll give us better language. what's the consensus now? they'll o ahead with the qe and get rid of that, but the language will be bifnt enough to make us think teal go into 2016. >> everyone is looking at no sooner than the end of this year. anything sooner than that will have a negative affect. people are watching oil3 right now. that seems to be the topic everybody is talking about. if oil remains a at these levels, we'll be looking at a problem with the job market. which woulddthen in turn affect the fed and what they're going to be couldoing. charles: let's switch on oil. chris, there's two thoughts of oil. people get upset. americans don't care why their gasoline goes down as long as it does. there are two schools of thought. one can be a dramatic slow down. how you feeling out there? >> well, i think you see some of that with some of the slow down numbers coming out of china. today there was some% slow down coming out of germany. if that were to c

it undermines the soulless pendulum swing of red-blue, blue-red politics.perateeasingly doublethat single -- party government is the only kind of government that is fit for our country. [applause] as someone who has grown more -- more actually, not less -- with establishment during my time in office, i realize that with the to eject usests is from office before our time is up. what disrupts those vested most is to play our opponents game. i will not, no matter how much seeke goads me to do it, from the achievement of the government, because it would only play into the hands of those who says that we should never have been in government before. angry modeespite the of our times, there are millions our fellow citizens who still believe the politics have fairness, reason, and decency. [applause] in seven months, the people of this country will need to make a choice. party, pick the labour which has learned no lessons from the past, and it will jeopardize the economy all over again. you can pick the conservative party, which does not share your left to itswhen

suggest that saturn death star looking moon is rocking back and forth and oscillating kind of like a pendulum. scientist call it libation. using image captured by the spacecraft cornell researcher says it satisfies lot about the moon inside. may be that the moon has an oval shape core formed by the push and pull of saturn ring or it might be a sub surface ocean. research was published in the journal of science and pretty father natureing. >> it is. another 30 minutes of 7 news at 9:00 just moments away. up next. apple unveiling. new product the company is hoping you will put under the tree this christmas. and would you do this to a rolls royce why southern california man decided to blow this luxury car to smith arena. >> also starbucks is offering up for those who just can't wait to order the coffee. wait to order the coffee. >> another half hour of insurance because it was too expensive. as a professional dancer, i tend to beat up my body a lot, and having health insurance is a priority for me. it's a relief to be able to keep the same doctor. i was born with a back condition that required s

you have seen what i call the pendulum when it comes to facing deadly diseases.or example, the late 80's and 90's when you had the hiv aids situation, a lot of protesters. but they were saying that the fda needed to loosen up some of the trials and order to allow people who were facing a death sentence to try therapeutics that they would not try if they were not facing a life or death situation. and use of the pendulum shift a little bit in that time, the mid-90s, the highest number of new approvals by the fda. i think those are not unrelated. this might lead to some of those kinds of shifts within the fda about how to approach this. >> in terms of mechanisms used today, compassionate use which allows the fda to make a judgment subject to data available at the time, drug or therapeutic, but i go back to what was said originally, the first principle of medicine is do no harm, and light of these materials, it is very early in the clinical phase testing. and there was the right question asked, why is it taking so long? the answer is, there are still early in clinica

we know the pendulum swings back all the time with public opinion we knew it was going to come way over. voters wanted a stronger hold on these banks. has it gone too far. i think the standards are hurting the housing market now. >> as loose as the standards were pre2007, not only have we come back from neutral. we are so far to the right. we are so tight on standards. sam, also to your point, the millennials, the younger people, not only they may have credit issues, not higher income, they are more transient in their behavior. they don't want to own homes. >> oh, no. of course, they want to buy homes. quantitative easing has destroyed. the margins aren't making up. second, the baby boomers they're all trying to sell at the same time. that's why the existing homes are -- charles: in the younger ones are trying to sell, that would make homes cheaper. >> private equity. private equity has come in. they borrow cheap. they have gone in and bought -- they have bought all these homes. >> how do they make money? they make money. charles: so what are you going to say? >> i was going to say, it'

>> well, i think right now the pendulum is swing into an extreme fashion. but however, that goes to show how panicky people can get about this. listen, i've given this a lot of thought as to what i think should be done with people who are in direct contact with ebola. you know, people who have sacrificed their lyes to go there and help others. and my conclusion is that probably anybody who has known contact should probably be, for safety's sake, in quarantine either before they come to this country or after. and it's very difficult to say, but i think, you know, we now have to consider some political issue, and if the public is going to get that alarmed, you know, then maybe that's part of the safety that we need to consider. so it's a very tough question. >> and then quarantine becomes complicated, does it not? >> of course. >> tell us about that. >> well listen, from what i understand, the doctor in new york was in a pseudoquarantine. the doctors without borders, who i think is an excellent organization, you know, was asking him to monitor his temperature

the pendulum may have swung in kobani's favor for now, but the battle for this town is far from over. the u.s. general overseeing the coalition operation against isil says the air strikes are effective. >> we're no longer seeing them move around the country in large convoys. now they are mostly traveling in civilian vehicles and smaller numbers, and this is hindering their ability to mass, and to shift combat power. we have also seen them alter their methods of communication, which is intributing their ability to coordinate and synchronize their efforts. so we are having the desired effects, but this will take time. >> reporter: the u.s. general in charge of the air strike campaign against isil says it is going to take a long time to degrade that group's capabilities. but general austin told reporters on friday it can and will be done. general austin also said it is going to take some time to enhance and improve the capabilities of the iraqi military. he suggested in his opening statement that the military has suffered from neglect, and that much in the way of coherence and actual abi

the pendulum may have swung in kobane for now. >> the obama administration has faced questions this week over priorities against isil. the pentagon said despite the up tick, iraqi is still the priority. today the man in charge of military action against isil said strikes are forcing the group to change tactics. >> we're no longer seeing them move around the country in large convoys. now they're mostly traveling in civilian vehicles in smaller numbers. this is hindering their ability to amass and shift combat power. we've seen them alter their methods of communication which is inhibiting their ability to coordinate and synchronize their efforts. we're having the desired effects but this will take some time. >> iraq's kurdish north holds the only hope really for safety of thousands of people fleeing isil control territories. we're in kirkuk with their story. >> reporter: they cross enemy lines for some of these people it is not a matter of choice. on any day thousands make this journey. this rode has become a lifeline for those who live in mosul, tekrit and areas under the control of islam

extremely important because as anyone of us who have covered this story will attest, it's a constant pendulum between the enthusiasm and the can do and if you want to put it bluntly, the star trek nature of finally getting people into space. getting them into space versus extreme difficulties of doing so and joel talked about it te eloquently there. it's another issue. it's a spacecraft. there's a constant back and forwarding amongst regulators about how to proceed with this and how it should be done. >> that's why given what happened a couple days ago with different private entity, it's a punch in the gut as miles o'brien said. richard qwest, thank you so much and huge thank you to joel glenn brenner who was on the phone who was covering this particular program virgin galactic for a long, long time. it's not just about how this would have been and still could be the first official tourist space flight but a loss of life for at least one of these test pilots. she put it so eloquently in talking about these pilots know they are risking their lives every time they strap in to test a piece of eq

we'll be a above that for the next four, five days till things get on the other side of the pendulum.'s a look at the eclipse if you missed it. this was taken by david in stafford yesterday afternoon. the moon took a bite out of the sun as its shadow was cast as the moon was passing between the sun and the earth yesterday late in the day. it started real late, 5:52. maxed out at 6:17. it was only about 25% or so. that was two minutes before sunset. check this out. we've got sunset today at 6:17. sunshine mixing with some high clouds. it will muddy the sky at times but not a bad day. low 60s by lunch time. winds northwest at 14, gusts maybe 20, 25 but that's a lot better than yesterday when we had the gust in the 35 mile an hour range. right now not too much wind. a few gusts toward 20 in leesburg and manassas at the moment. we'll call it breezy. certainly is breezy but not as bad. temps are running in the low to mid-50s most areas. mildner cambridge -- milder in cambridge, 57. 45 in horn. 30s in the mountains. frederick this morning mild at 55. you need the jackets due to the breeze.

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i suggest that it's time that the post snowden pendulum be seen as having swung too far in one direction in a direction of fear and mistrust. i think it's time have an open and honest debate about liberty and security. some have suggested that there's a conflict between accomplish security. you have to give up a little of one to get some of the other. i reject that framework. i think when we are at our best in law enforcement in national security public safety, we are looking enhance security and liberty. when a city post police officers on a dangerous playground, the freedom to play without fear. people in the fbi are sworn to protect both security and liberty. it isn't a question for us. we care deeply about protecting and safeguarding the citizens we're here to project -- protect. so finding a space and time in tower lives to understand them is hard. i'm so grateful to brookings for carving out stuff. smart people disagreeing to come to the best answer. i have never been, i don't think, anyone who is a scare monger. but i'm in a dangerous business. so i want to ensure that we discuss

you have seen what i call the pendulum shifting when it comes to deadly diseases. for example in the late 1980's or early 1990's, the hiv-aids situation, lots of protesters were throwing blood on the fda headquarters and saying that the fda needs to loosen up the rules on trials in order to allow people who were facing a death sentence to try therapeutics that they might ordinarily not try if they were not facing a life or death situation. you saw the pendulum shift a little bit there in the mid-1990's, the highest number of new approvals at the fda, i think those are not unrelated. this might lead to some of those shifts within the fda. your point, though, there are two principal mechanisms, compassionate use an emergency use authorization that allows the fda to make a judgment subject to the data at the time. subject to the use of a particular drug or therapeutic. but going back to what was originally said, the first principle message was to do no harm. in light of these materials now, they are very early in their and the phase testing, right question is -- why h

so i do think the pendulum swings in terms of how the companies kind of listen to the market and deliver it. and then it goes the other direction. right now microsoft is in a good part of that cycle. >> and finally this has been a week in which bill gurley expanded on comments about vc excess. we've had confidence numbers of vcs come down for the first time. are you feeling that. >> these are the people that made the party and drank too much and now they are feeling a hangover i guess. i don't know. they created had bubble and now they are worried about the bubble. it is coined of comical in some level. and now they fret over it. yeah i think they are. they are. they are worried about the valuations and worried how they are going to sell the companies and worried if they get the prices they paid or overpaid. worried about if they can go public. aum kinds of things like that. and vcs worry about rereturns and they should be worried about some of these companies. >> thanks kara. nbc is a minority stakeholder in re/code and we have a partnering relationship. we are awaiting a the new york c

he said after snowden we have swung too far in terms of the pendulum in terms of security and wants to it start to swing the other way. take a listen. >> have we become so mistrustful of government and law enforcement in particular that we are willing to let bad guys walk away, willing to leave victims in search of justice? >> reporter: we have been talking to civil liberty advocates saying comy is talking about something that is not really a problem. and they say the examples he is offering up is examples where the fbi would need the information is far from adequate. >> well, i don't think his argument was particularly convincing. he is talking about are a few outliar criminal cases and doesn't justify the vast invasion of privacy to the general public. what we have seen come out over the past few years with the revelations from snowden and others is that law enforcement has really been abusing its capabilities. >> and what the fbi director was saying last week is that he said we might get to the place where congress needs to step in and mandate that american companies suffer a little

>> well, a heck of a pendulum swing, back and forth. but today was a little alarming.when you look and see a more than 300-point drop in the dow jones industrials, a lot of your viewers are saying what happened, what caused this? you can really look no further than europe. europe, which at the start of the year started to look like it was recovering, it has started to slow down. month after month. and that has become very disconcerting to the markets. but today, the head of the european central bank mario draghi actually articulated it in a speech. there was a report that said that germany, bret, is very close to recession. germany's been that stalwart economy within the eurozone, so that got people very nervous. our markets turned tail, boom, we went down. and again, i think it's really important to remind people there's been a lot of volatility. this is the third day in a row where we've seep a 200-point plus-swing in either direction. up, down, all around. so volatility is back. >> so which sectors were hit hardest? >> oh, by far, energy. energy got hurt the hardest