the net pendulum will swing, it should we give is in competition in with another and though always change from time to time. if to say we want national security protectors to insure domestic tranquility. i know the most americans would condone that. so what do they want that they don't already have. >> host: in the history of the united states with national security act and domestic terrorism clash with people's civil liberties that is human nature. we are very attuned this week considering paris. that is naive to the you don't want the police to take every measure to insure that those perpetrators are caught in the powers that be he do everything they can to see it is not repeated. >> to find ourselves not in a democratic state there is always a question of balance. but to say it is a ticking bomb. that everything is then in secret. in the heart of the democratic government and what we have seen in the wake of 9/11 they did not oversee the national security establishment as well. tuesday like senator graham was very critical and to check what it is the security establishment. been in wit

the pendulum shifts the other way.thet you are amazon and netflix realize there is more to be made. even more traditional entertainment providers are thinking about doing the same thing and trying to get their content delivered through a new medium. is the most exciting thing that will come out of 2016? we talk about robotics. at ces, we see cars driving by themselves and technology being used in places where we may lose jobs. eileen: it is hard to pick one. everything is going to be changed. robotics, autonomous vehicles, artificial intelligence, virtual reality will start to take hold. we talk about year -- we talk about wearables for years and years. that will continue to take hold. is whatind interesting is going to happen in the financial services sector. i think technology impacting and whats are doing consumers are doing with financial services is transformational. fran: give me an example. will see think you digital only banks, mobile first banks. i think what is happening with retail banking is really opening

the point i'm trying to make in my book is that we have swung in the other direct on the pendulum. and so there were those perfectly reasonable commitments and instinks that were -- instincts that were pro women and pro nature and antimedicallization, and now breast-feeding advocates are elying on doctors to push their agenda. so it's swung too far in the other direction, and i think you're making the same point she was making when you say the problemes capitalism, the patriarchy, and that's what mala is saying, you're saying it's all the fault of breast-feeding and in fact it's because we have discrimination in the workplace and it's because women's voices aren't heard, et cetera. so, absolutely, there are bigger problems in the world. unfortunately, would that this was our worst problem. >> maybe i can conclude with that. >> that was good. [inaudible conversations] >> here's a look at some of the current best-selling nonfiction books according to the "new york times." starting the list, the win over last year's national book award and finalist for the national books critic circle

ryan will have the privilege to be speaker when the political pendulum swings. >> angela merkel. i think they made a mistake throwing open the gate. >> i wouldn't under estimate merkel's power of recovery. we'll see. year. clarence: why? tom: because he's socialist and very strange. : [ inaudible ] >> it's got to be jeb bush who for years led the most likely republican nominee list. he has now fallen drastically and if he does not get the nomination which appears likely to happen, i don't know what he will do politically after that. >> destined for political oblivion. best political theater, pat. >> donald trump arrives at the iowa state fair and tells all the little kids to come out and take a ride on the trump helicopter. it's a real winner all the way around. hillary clinton a pass on her e- mails in the first democratic debate. >> donald trump's interactions with various people in the media. >> i say john kasich coming across in the early debates as very practical leader and organizer who makes government work and it did no good in this current contest. >> best political thea

it seems to be the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. that is a fair debate.here i'm taking issue is applying new sentencing guidelines retroactively, saying people in prison should immediately be let out because we have determined that they are less likely to return to crime. we have a very poor track record. back in 2002, the justice department put out a study that tracked recidivism rate at 84,000 people from 15 states over three years were supposedly nonviolent offenders who were safe to release. 21% of these nonviolent offenders committed violent crimes within three years including more than 500 rapes and more than 600 murders. the patterns have been replicated at state levels. philadelphia and los angeles tried this. we do a very poor job of deciding who will turn out good. >> we have a healthy debate up here. juan: the reason why 6000 people are being released easily is because this country woke up and said how do we treat cocaine differently than crack cocaine? once this was determined, the notion that we realized is the most basic premise of justice.

to karen's point, the pendulum swings, it swings now the wrong way. you need ibb, in my opinion, to get back up above 285 before you can start to look at this, unfortunate unfortunately. >> now it seems like, i don't want to say politicians, but politicians, lawmakers, whoever, they're glomming on at this point in terms of the drug price battle. >> that's the problem. even with the good ones, the earnings are in question. not because the company's not going to hit it, but you just don't know politically are they going to be able to charge what they used to charge. there's a huge question mark. it looks like it's coming from all sides. it's a bipartisan attack on these. so for me, xpi, ibb, all sells until after the election. and maybe even then you need more. >> if you don't know what to charge on a drug, you don't know what the company is worth in an m&a transaction. >>> big name earnings hitting the tape tonight. live team coverage following the breaking headlines and the moves on amazon, which is falling hard. microsoft is following. electronics ar

everybody try to get back to normal with the weather and we go from, like, one pendulum swing this wayo the other side. >> yes. spring-like temperatures in the upcoming week, 50s tomorrow, 60 monday, and tracking flooding on wednesday, and reports of a meteor in the sky, and i'll post information about that on my facebook. >> how cool. >> apparently, it was bright. i was doing the weather when it happened. there you go. >> that's what social media is for to find out about these things. that's the news for now, nightly news is next, and see you >>> on this saturday night, down to the wire. with 48 hours to go, the candidates make a final push for votes in iowa. tonight, we go inside the war rooms and door to door. clinton and sanders neck and neck and a real battle among the republics as iowa gets ready for the opening act of 2016. >>> captured. three escaped inmates back in jail tonight after two are caught on the streets of san francisco. a teacher who may have helped them break out. >>> race against time. the growing battle to contain the zika virus on the ground in brazil as the out

and what i was on fox, i talked about a pendulum.k obama has pulled this pendulum as far to the right as you possibly can and emboldened the executive power. and i said warning to both the democrats and the republicans. at some point that power swings back and it will swing back just as far and at some point, the farther you bring it back, somebody will grab it in a time of crisis and say just stay here. and you don't want that. and i warned there were people like father coughlin in the 1930s that was a very dangerous guy who spoke to the economic despair, spoke to the anger, spoke to the fear. these demagogues come along. unless they are rooted in the constitution, they can become very dangerous. >> you don't believe he is. you don't believe he's truly rooted in -- at the very least in the constitution. he's really rooted essentially -- >> have you ever heard -- >> -- in himself? >> he saul about himself. i went back and looked at his speeches. i wanted to be sure. he doesn't say we're going to make america great. he says i'll make

the sentences are too long, i think that is a debate we are having, the consensus looks like the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. i am talking about applying new guidelines, retroactively, saying that people in prison should be let out because we have determined that they are less likely to return to crime, again, that is a very poor argument. the justice department put out a study that tracked 84,000 people from 15 states over two years, nonviolent offenders who are safe to release, total percent of these nonviolent offenders that committed violent crimes within three years, including more than 500 rapes, 600 murders, 21%. and this pattern has been replicated at the state level, los angeles tried this, we did a poor job of deciding who would be released. >> we have a healthy debate. juan: the reasons why 6000 people being released recently is because the country woke up and said, so once that decision was made, the notion that it was wrong to believe with and enforce retroactively, that is the basis of justice, your deciding that a decision made earlier was wrong. and t

their sleep and it pushes the pendulum back the other way. >> it's a good first job. >> when my alarm goes off and i end up sleeping for an extra half an hour i feel more ready for the rest of my day. >> on average i get about five hours of sleep. >> i personally don't think that we should start school any later. >> no decisions have been made yet but with health as the key issue it seems likely in years to come teens could hear that school bell ring a little later. >> in newton, wcvb, newscenter 5. >> it has pluses and minuses. >> five hours of sleep, that's just a little too short. >> too little. >> a teen needs more than that. i agree with you completely. >> we're looking at what happened last year at this time because we were just completing the two of them were right around the two foot mark this boston and the first one, yeah, this this boston. >> we're not going to have a repeat of that coming up in the next couple of days. but i wanted to show you this ocean storm that makes its closest pass to us very late, well after midnight thursday night, and on into friday, is pretty far

ryan will have the privilege to be speaker when the political pendulum swings next november election day putting him in a pivotal spot. destined for political oblivion. pat: angela merkel. i think the chancellor of germany has made a terrible mistake in throwing over the gates. she's losing her party in bavaria. if this continues, she's in deep trouble. even though she's "time's" person of the year. john: well stated. eleanor: i wound underestimate angela merkel's power of recovery. we'll check back in a year. oblivion, louisiana senator david vitter. lost in a cloud of scandal, governor of louisiana and will not run again for the senate so he will be gone. tom: the leader of the u.k. labor party imploding the party with him. john: why? tom: because he's socialist and very strange. john: really? pat: hard left. clarence: got to be jeb bush that has led my -- most likely republican nominee list. he has now fallen drastically and if he does not get a nomination, which appears likely will happen, then i don't know what he's going to do politically after that. john: destined for politica

it seems to be the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. that is a fair debate.here i'm taking issue is applying new sentencing guidelines retroactively, saying people in prison should immediately be let out because we have determined that they are less likely to return to crime. we have a very poor track record. back in 2002, the justice department put out a study that tracked recidivism rate at 84,000 people from 15 states over three years were supposedly nonviolent offenders who were safe to release. 21% of these nonviolent offenders committed violent crimes within three years including more than 500 rapes and more than 600 murders. the patterns have been replicated at state levels. philadelphia and los angeles tried this. we do a very poor job of deciding who will turn out good. >> we have a healthy debate up here. juan: the reason why 6000 people are being released easily is because this country woke up and said how do we treat cocaine differently than crack cocaine? once this was determined, the notion that we realized is the most basic premise of justice.

republican i am in the state of limitation you describe, but would like to take issue because i think the pendulumhas swung. it is moving in the opposite direction for several reasons. demography yes, a young nation, but no longer a northern european angle-sachsen nation that field the religious underpinning of this country. we are becoming more hispanic, more asian, more muslim, and you have not factored that at all into your book. i think that will have a tremendous difference in how america evolves. secondly, the underpinning of this christian right movement are essentially poor people if you look at the average income, and they are suffering in the current climate and have since the drop in the 1990's. the failure of this great american health system to provide health services for many people, including many of them as they age, that is becoming an issue separating them on an economic racist. values yes but people tend to identify and vote not so much with the values, but with their pockets. i didn't think your book gave enough emphasis to what is happening in the pocketbook of a large swath o

corrupt to be the opposite then being moderate in the way that you described will not swing that pendulum back but rather to be radical but what i would call reformist. he would say this to those in the south who were an agreement the racial segregation was wrong but rather than all of the protest and demonstrations and calls, they wanted to take it slowly the moderates wanted to be incremental to end segregation in he pointed out the impact and injustice is not incremental it is heavy and urgent and that is why we have to take what he calls it a radical approach to end it. i would argue in the same vein that we ashes muslims need to take a reformist approach to an end these injustices that is happening in the name of our religion and when we do we will not get to a point of utopia but a point of moderation. i'm describing the process of reform. you are describing common in my view, the destination that is humanistic kind and loving and compassionate but we're not going to get there merely by not doing acts of terror. but by standing up, of vocalizing a plural vision in taking the backlas

how do you know when they are appropriately fearful, and when your pendulum is overshot to one side?e a sense. that is all i can say. be fearfulnough to when they are greedy, and greedy when they are fearful. you have to know what the market is doing and why. david: a lot of people's concerns over china are unjustified. know when they are overshooting the limits of justification. know --the key is to you have to know -- you have to have a bedrock of reality. when you see an asset stock going like this. that is not enough. you have to know what it is worth. there is an intrinsic value. you cannot be an investor unless you understand intrinsic value. only if you know the intrinsic value, that is why you have to be a fundamental investor. andou do not have the time intellectual preparation to know these things, then you have to turn your money over to somebody who does. betty: that was oaktree chairman howard marks on bloomberg. he was given in -- giving perspective on the volatility in the market. still ahead on "bloomberg markets." stocks are declining, so did consumer spending. what

. >> tracy morrison: i graduated decided to swing the pendulum from not treating pain to treat everybody's pain. i was a part of that.had no idea that we were addicting people.e quarters of a billion pain pills were prescribed by doctors in every man, woman and child in the state. how did you respond when your using heroin? >> tracy morrison: well, they first told me they were using found out they were using heroin was i came home from work one day, made dinner, and i was yellingo come for dinner and she didn't. and i walked into her bedroom and her boyfriend was shooting her up. >> whitaker: you saw this? >> tracy morrison: i saw it.d you do? >> tracy morrison: dropped the plate of food. i dropped it. and i was hysterical. daughter jenna is 25 now. alive. >> jenna morrison: in my to rehab 17 times, and i had been to jail six or seven times. , i got out, went to rehab, came home and relapsed, and then did it all over again.rdosed, as well? >> morrison: uh-huh. >> whitaker: how many times? >> morrison: i only overdosedin an ambulance. >> whitaker: jenna would have died if emergency medical

at the sentiment in the market, we had an earlier guest speaking about how the pendulum has swung toom too optimistic to two pessimistic because economically the united they still looks to be in fairly distant -- decent shape. it's not causing this massive drop? >> it has been a lot of things. back and have the effect of exacerbating moves in asset classes beyond what the fundamentals suggest that is of course tied into the behavioral side of the market sentiment, as your questions started. there are a lot of ways to measure investor sentiment. good look at what investors are actually doing critical the fund , who, attitudinal measures are investors intelligence, call ratios, you name it. swung extremely quickly toward extreme pessimism. that can establish the opportunity for a short-term bottom. but you can spend some time in those levels. in terms of what investors are doing, i think the fund flow data has been starks with entire bull market. it shows how skeptical investors have been. in the last couple weeks, on an annual basis we are looking at a fund flows as significant as what

you mentioned the empathy gap for children and the pendulum may be swinging the other way for the ones who are in between. conversation is difficult to get rewarding and that is that theme that is hard. how do you fix that, teach people they are not getting it from their parents in the classroom? where do you see that knowledge been gained? >> thanks. let's take another question. >> i am very keenly aware of how people use their phones. i would notice all the time for kids up full text in the home button, see something new, double tap, refresh, constantly. it is almost automatic. the whole time it contradicts with what you reported in the book. they are constantly stating they are worth. they are on these devices in their getting their egos refresh in the way of, but they are always saying they are ordered. what are they actually saying when they are surrounded by information and data, but they are also stating they are bored. >> well, i'm going to take the last one is a wonderful piece of observation and future research. i think that it's a very profound statement by these kids they a

it's a pendulum. barbara bush had this to say about the campaign. >> jeb has been a very good father, a wonderful son, hard worker, his heart is big. when push comes to shove, people are going to realize jeb has real solutions rather than talking about how popular they are, how great they are. he's doing it because he sees a huge need, and it's not being sold by anybody. of all the people running, he seems to be the one who could solve the problem. i think he'll be a great president. >> joanne, there was a dig in there for trump, talking about the popular guy. it's not always the popular guy. she said that her son seems to be -- >> you know when you get into a fight in high school, or in gram ar school, and your mother has to come and sort it out and make the two boys work out their problems. this wasn't an endorsement so much as it was her just trying to, i don't know, pat her son on the back and tell him it's going to be okay. >> yeah. >> how bad is it for jeb bush when you talk to a sound byte of j

i think the stock has been a good reset, and the pendulum now on valuation swings more towards the bullishamp. >> david, it's never been expensive to use a technical term. but the bear case, which you say has been well played, is that you're sort of in this peak phone cycle, and absent a giant new revenue stream, it's a question of where the growth comes from. are you arguing that the company has another big lane to plow? >> i don't know if they have another imminent lane to plow, but going back to the iphone, if the iphone can't recover from the second quarter and renew some year over year growth, again specifically with the iphone, you have to start asking yourself if we are at peak iphone at an installed base now of 500 million users. you have to ask yourself, is it failing to take share from android? is adoption rates starting to roll over? is there not going to be an interest in the iphone 7? at least in our view those are tough boxes to check off. no doubt about it, we're seeing relatively poor iphone 6s adoption rates as we speak here. expectations have been reset. and, again, the s

i was a nursing director when we decided to swing the pendulum from not treating pain to treat everybody's pain. i was a part of that. and at that time, i had no idea that we were addicting people. >> whitaker: in 2014, three quarters of a billion pain pills were prescribed by doctors in ohio-- nearly 65 pills for every man, woman and child in the state. how did you respond when your daughters told you they were using heroin? >> tracy morrison: well, they first told me they were using the pills, and how i found out they were using heroin was i came home from work one day, made dinner, and i was yelling for my youngest daughter to come for dinner and she didn't. and i walked into her bedroom and her boyfriend was shooting her up. >> whitaker: you saw this? >> tracy morrison: i saw it. >> whitaker: what did you do? >> tracy morrison: dropped the plate of food. and i was hysterical. >> whitaker: tracy's daughter jenna is 25 now. she knows she's lucky to be alive. >> jenna morrison: in my addiction, i have been to rehab 17 times, and i had been to jail six or seven times. so every time i went

this is pendulum swinging back. >> i don't think so. i don't think so. melissa: really?> mainstream plausible republican is ted cruz, who has the cv of an insider. melissa: no, it is marco rubio. >> marco could get there. this guy was insurgent in the senate race. he is insurgent in presidential race all the establishment money went to jeb bush at beginning. conventional wisdom marco can't run. he has been boxed out. no, i will run and make most of my native talent that i can. now he is ahead of jeb. andrea: they have cozied up to democrats. you get hit with the establishment when you participate in these "gang of eight" deals. it makes you weak. i do, with a conservative base. but to your point, too, julie, i think we might be seeing this on the left. not end of the establishment. dem are having their own fight. this could be end of clintons. could put two family dynasties to rest in one election cycle. >> not what dynasties represent. more than that. end of philosophy, end of. andrea: politics as usual. >> politics as usual. people like cruz or trump for that matter, s

it's a pendulum. barbara bush had this to say about the campaign. >> jeb has been a very good father, a wonderful son, hard worker, his heart is big. when push comes to shove, people are going to realize jeb has real solutions rather than talking about how popular they are, how great they are. he's doing it because he sees a huge need, and it's not being sold by anybody. of all the people running, he seems to be the one who could solve the problem. i think he'll be a great president. >> joanne, there was a dig in there for trump, talking about the popular guy. it's not always the popular guy. she said that her son seems to be -- >> you know when you get into a fight in high school, or in gram ar school, and your mother has to come and sort it out and make the two boys work out their problems. this wasn't an endorsement so much as it was her just trying to, i don't know, pat her son on the back and tell him it's going to be okay. >> yeah. >> how bad is it for jeb bush when you talk to a sound byte of j

but the point i'm trying to make in my book is about we have swung in the other direction on the pendulumght? and soda with those perfectly -- and so there was is perfectly reasonable instincts that was pro-women and pro-nature and anti-medicalization, and then, and no breast-feeding advocates are relying on medical science and on doctors to push their agenda. and so it swung too far in the other direction. and i think you are making the same point mala is making when you say the problem is capitalism, the problem is the patriarchy. that's a mala these same. .. [inaudible conversations] >> c-span, created by america's cable companies 35 years ago and brought to you as a public service by your local cable or satellite provider. >> host: and ajit pai is the senior republican on the federal communications commission, and he is our guest this week on "the communicators." commissioner, thanks for being here. >> guest: thanks for having me. >> host: it's an election year. >> guest: yes. >> host: can we expect an activist commission, an active docket in an election year? >> guest: i don't set th

overreached the pendulum of negativity. would you concur?ght here is based on the idea on one side you got industry that is falling apart, andefore destroying jobs largeutting quite a expenditure. that should've come and boosted the economy. on the other side, you have a cheaper oil price that should benefit the consumer. unfortunately, it seems the consumer is to simply not spending this extra buck on consumption. manus: i want to bring our viewers a quick look at our morning must-read. this is something -- it comes from the journal. shale will rise again. the peaks and valleys both wreak havoc. a deluxens imagine idea with price is just right. a goldilocks scenario. consumers are not spending it. it is causing a deflationary spiral. what does 2016 hold for you and jupiter in terms of dealing with it? d had to be more fast and furious and precise in terms of stock choosing? said earlier, the main thing here is to go for relatively safe investments. companies that have enough capital to honor their dividend. companies that have a large chunk

>> so i've got to believe that this is a swinging pendulum in the last 25 years, this generation hasonly seen dysfunction and government shutdown and hyperbolling partnership. but over times there's been a lot of crisis and periods of disunderstand that we've gotten through and we have regrouped from. the civil war for example was not a walk in the park. the civil right era not so great but we get through these kinds of things. the problem right now is that reason i'm woirled that i'm not convinced that we have the best group of people ready to tack on that challenge. and that's why the book is trying to incentivize political aptitude and political interest because we can swing the other way as long as we have new voices and fresh ysdz to help get us there. we always have and no reason to believe that we always won't. >> thank you jennifer lawless. >> thank you. [applause] joins now for bread and spreads and books are sold to the hall washington to your left. we'll see you on the 19th at noon. >> here's a look at some of the authors recently featured on booktv afterwards our weekly i

. >> you mentioned this at the beginning for children it was the pendulum may be swinging the other way for the ones who are in the game. the cversation is difficult to get rewording. how do you sort of fix that and teach people the models are not in the classroom. where do you see that knowledge? >> i talked with school for seven years, so i'm very aware of how people use their phones and i would notice all the time you see people double tap on the home and refresh constantly and almost just automatic and the whole time they are saying this it contradicts some of what the report in the book that they are constantly saying they are bored. they are on these devices and they are getting their ego refreshed anyway or her constructiveness but they are always saying they are bored. so i'm wondering what are they actually saying when they are being surrounded by information and data but also saying they are bored? the >> i'm going to take that last one as just a wonderful piece of observation and future research i think that is a very profound statement that they are saying something i think

remember when i said the pendulum would swing back just as far the other way and you will have a guy have a guy who will say nothing just like hope and change and you will be for it? warning? do you remember those shows? here he is. donald trump. >> okay. but trump, you know i have known him for a long time. >> i know. >> he is not an idealogue. all right. so when you say he was a republican or now he is+[> a democrat. >> he voted for obama=1kz in 2008. come on, bill. >> look, you have to understand something. >> yes. >> at his point in life back then, in 2008, all he cared about was putting up another building or two. he wants a hotel in washington. he got the hotel in washington. okay. so all of his prior political commitments -- >> -- so as long as -- so what you are saying is as long as it's in your interest, you can do whatever you want? >> i'm not justifying, i'm explaining. >> you don't have to explain it to me, bill. i'm not a moron. >> you are not? [ laughterf7$w >> believe it or not. i mean, i get it. i understand what he did. >> right. >> i just think that -- where did the

we have to appreciate that when we talk about the massive pendulum swings we've had in this country between security and privacy. >> i'm not going to call this a big data but one of the most important things we did, and shortly after 9/11, was to essentially posit the question of how can we use data more effectively not we had to better identify the small fragment of people that may pose a terrorist threat to the united states, might be tempted into the united states from abroad end of the terrorist threat? and, of course, you've got people on the terrorist watch list and we will identify anybody on the terrorist watch list, not only when they enter jfk but before they board an airplane. the real problem that i thought a lot about and what we did something about was the issue of how do you know down the haystack of those very really under 1% of people, and they are foreign nationals, some of them are now foreign fighters that are trained in syria, but how to identify the potentiality that someone might fall into that category and in use border surged authority in for questioning authority w

warn on fox, i did a show -- the biggest one you could remember is the one where i did with the pendulum and i said here's barack obama, he's pulled it back so far, it's going to swing the other way and unless you root yourself in the constitution, when that swings back, you're going to have another guy with a pen and with a phone and he's going to do bad things. >> why would you believe that about trump? i mean, what he says is i am a deal maker, an executive, i'm worth several billion dollars and have a history of proving i can get things done, that i win, as he puts it. >> that's not -- that's great for a ceo, but that's not the job of a president. the president -- first of all, does not create jobs. he doesn't jam things down your throat. the president is not supposed to rule by dictate or edict or executive power. he is supposed to make sure that the government acts and behaves the way it's supposed to. when he raises his hand, i will protect and defend the constitution of the united states. when we head into trouble, and trouble is coming, you want a guy who says, look -- i mean, l

one thing he would say is there is a pendulum in the market which he calls bipolar.ong time it was overly optimistic. every bit of new data we are seeing is being viewed through a pessimistic lens. at a certain point there should be some kind of benefit. if people are looking at a situation that uniformly looks , people are looking at this and it's not clear the central bank could come in with a substantial rescue at this point. --if you look at the fix, vix, it is elevated. the move has been steady and a grind higher, that's the intraday. it happen in august. -- happened in august. you might argue it is more concerning this time around because it is a buildup. >> i'm not sure how much predictive value there is in the vix. spikes have not necessarily lead to big their markets. it's clearly indicative of historic volatility, expressed in expectations for the future. i'm not sure how much you can really predict from some other level. you can type gadf go on on terminal or search gadfly the web. with the dow deep in the red, pimco will be joining us. ♪ julie: welcome to

pendulum. >> obviously i'm out of breath. so great cardio. the reason i like this, i term the term like loosely. you travel a lot, opens up your hips and engages the core, stretches your shoulders. >> you have one workout -- >> the first one, grab your weights. here we go. >> everybody can do this with or with without weights. robin, do it with us. >> slowly step back with your right leg, lower into a lunge then lift your knee up. >> yeah, robin. yeah, robin. >> okay. >> like that. >> en5 you work your thighs and work your booty and then we add these arm and shoulders and biceps. >> we got to leave. thank you. >> oh, julie, schad die boxing. why is this becoming popular with women? >> first off boxing is an it tones your body and builds long lean muscles. that's why women love and it models love it. it's been around forever and the best kept secret. boxing is the new black. you'll feel power. >> okay, boxing is the new black. how are you doing? sgl >> come on. >> wax on, wax on. >> jab high, high matter is like what are you doing to me today?