it's a penguin. what's the story with the penguins, and why do we love them so much? >> what is it about a penguin, they're black and white. you've seen "march of the penguins." remember the ones in the antarctic. >> larry: great movie. >> this is a blackfooted penguin. some people don't know this. out of 17 species of penguins, only five live in cold weather. only 5 out of 17. this blackfooted penguin out of south africa if it was in cold weather it wouldn't last several days. but the ones in the "march of the penguins," the emperor penguin, those can go in 50 to 100 below zero. by the way, they're monogamous. they mate for life. the female lays the egg. immediately, the male comes and sits on it. the female leaves and goes out to sea. she leaves him there for 40 days. he loses over half his body weight while she goes out and screws -- goes out and mess as round in the ocean and eats fish and everything in the ocean. she comes back and the poor guy's about dead, sitting on the chick. >> larry: how did they get that setup? >> i don't know. >> larry: not fair. not fair

so if you go to your local bookstore, you'll probably see that penguin, i don't know exactly, simon & schuster or somebody, is still printing that book. so it's actually in print and does not fall under the settlement. these are only for books that are not being printed anymore. so it could be that, that that book by an author in the 1940s like, that was really never well known or addressed -- i'm trying to think, john steinbeck, for example. that's post-1923, i believe. he might have written something that was not a huge hit like some of his other big title. the les, and that book is out of print now. but who is to protect that book, and who can, you know, have rights over that is part of what is at issue in this case. >> host: cecilia kang is the tech reporter and writes a progress on technical issues, intel communications issues for "the washington post". we're talking about the google book settlement, and there was just some action taken in new york on this just recently. what is, what is the status of where we stand? >> guest: sure. well, it looks like -- it was late friday, last

later on, there will be a photograph of something once and some polar bears, what it will be stuffed penguins and stuffed polar bears, little toys to make the point that they don't really live in the same part of the world. and so just at this moment, i will amuse you and we will discuss that again in a moment. this is polar bear country. this is the arctic ocean. this is the shoreline of russia. this is the shoreline of russia. this is russia. this is sweden and finland over here, is iceland, greenland. the north pole is approximately over here. this is where polar bears lippa. now i will identify the goal for you, but i wanted to identify this spot down here. we're going to go there pretty soon. a polar bear populations are the world have been more or less arbitrarily divided into 19 different populations. and as you can see, they all kind of bought up one against another. so it's not altogether sure that one of the population is going to wander into another area and become a polar bear and another population. but the ability to segregate the polar bears, at least technically, gives us some

plant and israelis could do a raid on montabe and pick up some iran leaders and let them rule over penguinsat the international community has attempted to address the regime prior to the obama administration. the bush administration offered twice to provide iran with the reactors. their goal was about the development of a sustained nuclear capability and in my estimation and others one that is offensive one. it's intended to not only generate energy but to allow iran to generate nuclear weapons if they want to. and the argument that iran is doing this for energy needs, they have the highest nuclear gas and at the head of the class of energy. this is a conversation about what this regime feels will give them prominence on the world stage. and they believe that nuclear resolves the problems at home. host: we see from forbes, you write that iran could learn from europe, there are signs that a new consensus is emerging in europe. guest: i wrote this piece as a follow-on to austria and europe. as americans we have a simplistic view of europe, they don't agree on much. but there is an enormous am

100% protection for those different species, but we are seeing some diminishing of populations of penguins and other marine -- but that's mainly from their food source because there's less and less krill because the waters are warming up as we've heard. and so they're very sensitive to variances in temperature. so that's one of the aspects that is going on. >> okay. so let's move on to oceans and fishing. do you support a world ban of blue fin tuna, and do you support the fish farming developments of japan's tuna developed at the university in japan? >> well, i'd be, i'd be remiss if i didn't support that because monaco was at the initiative of the, of the proposal to put mediterranean bluefin tuna on annex one of the washington treaty and to, therefore, put its commercial -- as it will be listed under an endangered species annex list, and it is an automatic ban from commercial fishing. so that's -- based on the data that we have from scientists in the mediterranean that the stocks and the stock of bluefin tuna in the mediterranean is on the verge of collapse. so if we didn't do something,