the kentucky state penitentiary, also known as the castle on the cumberland. >> i was really intimidatedy this place. it's an intimidating place to walk into. >> this could be the worst place you have ever been in your life. >> the eddyville castle will get you. somebody will take your life from you if you come through here with that old chip on your shoulder, there's going to be somebody to take it off you. >> ksp is kentucky's only maximum security facility. a group of stone masons from italy teamed with inmates from various prisons to construct the castle which opened in 1889. >> when they first built it, they had a sign up over the front door that said, "abandon hope all ye that enter here." they wanted this place to look pretty menacing and it still looks menacing even today. >> i think the penitentiary is unique in many respects, just because of the foreboding appearance that it has. it's a serious place where serious things happen. this is a prison. >> the castle sits on 90 acres and has seven cell houses for its 900 inmates. nearly 40 inmates are secluded on death row. fewer than

>>> inmate joe sears first came to the penitentiary of new mexico more than 20 years ago. last three years on level 6 in solitary confinement. >> i've been here, gosh, since i was 17 years old, and i have grown. and as i've grown, i've turned into more of a man. and that man regrets a lot of things that i've done. >> the only thing that can change a person is time, and through aging in this place and being locked up in a cell, i mean, i'm sure that it would have affected me just like it does him. >> i think i'm bad for what i've done, they put me in prison, but at the same time, i know that i'm not that person anymore. >> compared to when i knew him back at the main, it's a complete different joe sears now. i've seen joe sears deal with his crime. >> that hard work has paid off. sears has finally earned the right to leave the isolated and restricted world of level 6. today, he will be making the move up to level 5. >> congratulations. >> kind of like getting a better opportunity, you know? >> there you go. that's what it's about. >> i'm kind of glad to be going. getting a

in the next hour on "lockup," we'll go beyond the scenic desert landscape to the penitentiary of new mexico, a prison that is battling to overcome a long history of violence. just 15 miles away from the art galleries and shops of santa fe, a concrete fortress looms above the horizon, surrounded by double razor wire fences. housing more than 800 inmates, the penitentiary of new mexico is the state's highest security prison. >> we have pretty much the worst of the worst inmates in the state of new mexico. a number of the inmates that have been convicted of first degree murder. >> they got a lot of psychos too who just don't give a [ bleep ], doing life sentences. >> the prison's history is notorious. many of the most violent events took place in a facility called the old main. >> inmates had to prove themselves just to survive. >> you had almost 1,200 inmates in that facility that was built for 750. >> you have people living on top of each other, pushing each other. and i mean, there was a lot of tension. >> carlos cervantes was first brought to this prison in 1975. >> there was a lot

>> i came from state anamosa penitentiary. due to an inmate causing some problems. of throwing -- >> hang on. hang on. >> as our cameras roll, fickling's new neighbors continually attempt to disrupt the interview. >> i'm scared to death where i'm at because i don't know what's going to happen. you know. supposedly they say this is the worst penitentiary in iowa. >> but as we learned later, fickling's new neighbors have equal cause to be wary of him. >> the reason i'm mainly in lockup is because i got in a fight. that was my original thing while i was in ft. dodge. i assaulted an officer with urine and feces. >> i don't want to sound ignorant. how do you use your bodily fluids and throw it on somebody? >> i mean -- i used a cup. i mean, there's crazier inmates. they'll put [ bleep ] in their hand and throw it at you. i mean, you got inmates that will smear it on the walls and write graffiti. it just depends on what your mind frame is. that's not me. you know. i don't do that kind of thing, because, i mean, that shows like a little kid, you know, a little kid playing

at iowa state penitentiary, we found that the most brutal violence is sometimes against oneself. >> openn the methamphetamine lab he was running exploded. when we interviewed etter, he was also serving time for both sexual assault and for attacking a peace officer. >> i push everything to the limit, because as you can tell, i think i'm unstoppable. i think nothing will stop me. nothing will ever kill me. i thought i was god. reality check, i'm not. >> in spite of his calm demeanor, a few hours after this interview, etter got into a verbal confrontation with a female correctional officer that quickly escalated. c.e.r.t., the correctional emergency response team, was called in to extract him from his cell. >> he's been banging his head on the door, spitting at the glass, refusing to move or comply with any orders. we have permission to use force to extract him from his cell. >> for security reasons, the prison videotapes all extractions. >> you ready to move? >> put your hand out. other one. >> a mask is placed over etter's head to prevent him from spitting. >> let's go. >> initially he se

. >> here, it's colorado state penitentiary. and this time estrada is in for murder, a crime he committed after being released from his first prison term. >> in here, you take things a lot more serious. somebody calls you a punk, somebody calls you a bitch, someone says i'm going to kill you, in here that means, you know, you hold people to that word -- to them words, man. when i got out and guys were saying that about me, i'm going to kill john, i'm going to do this to him. the first thing in my mind is i better go kill him before he gets me even though he was probably talking out of his ass. he didn't understand the type of person i am and where i've been and the thought process i've learned in here. and he's dead now for it. it's kind of like a kill or be killed. >> estrada's prison education started early. >> how old were you when you were first arrested? >> about 13 or 14. >> what did you do? >> stealing a stereo out of a car. that's how it all began. start out stealing bubble gum at the stores all the way to snatching purs

. >> anamosa state penitentiary is a maximum security facility located in eastern iowa.ome of the state's most violent offenders. one would think that the overcrowded conditions would lead to a constant barrage of bloody confrontations. well, think again. behind the walls of anamosa is a world of unusual contrast. >> to the security office. >> for new inmates arriving at anamosa state penitentiary, the very look of the prison can be intimidating. more than 100 years old, it was built entirely of limestone from nearby quarries. over the years, as the criminal population increased, so did the size of the prison. today, some 1,300 inmates live behind the massive 35-foot-walls and, like any prison, the threat of danger is everywhere. >> around our perimeter we have seven gun towers. they're manned throughout the day. >> the danger is there each time you walk through that gate, you know. you don't know what's going to happen from the time you get on shift to the time you get off shift. >> there's only two types of people in prison. you got the predators and you got the prey.

and you know that on parole that will get you sent back to the penitentiary? that's right.d up. here, look at me. are you on parole or probation? parole. both of you? is that your pistol? it's his pistol. not your pistol? he's saying you picked him up and gave him that pistol... no, i went over there but it had nothing to do with that. nothing to do with that? and you didn't ask him to sell it? no. never seen it in your life? it's not mine, no. didn't ask to sell it? no. we're going to talk to your parole officer and make sure he or she knows. you check in on mccard or somewhere else? uh, berry. on berry? right. you're free to go. all right. when everything come down, you'll find out, lee. you know it's yours. it's yours. yeah, you's a wimp, baby. i put your i.d. on the back part of that truck railing so you drove off and it fell off. suspect: look at his arms. that's why he come over. do y'all both use heroin? yeah, i do. you were going to sell the gun and get money for heroin? yeah. you know, richard, i believe you. i think he's a liar. i just don't think he was man enoug

that's part of what they call penitentiary rules.e care of the man, the man lay back, that's all he has to do. he doesn't even have to brush his teeth. he just smiles, i brush his teeth for him. >> what about women's lib? you know, women are liberated now. >> right. they are. >> women don't have to wait on their husbands anymore. how do you feel about that? >> i choose to. i choose to. >> housework isn't the only way in which prison marriage is less than a union of equals. as precious explains in this graphic never-before-seen interview footage -- >> if there is any sexual activity taking place, he is the man. you know, he is the surrogate all the time. i'm always the recipient of whatever it is. it doesn't matter if it's oral or anal or however you want to look at it. because he's my husband. he's the man. i can never penetrate him or get no oral sex or anything like that from him. if i choose to, you know, go and release myself, then i have to go get me a girl to go do it with. >> our producer then questioned whether the relationsh

got another gun charge, got sentenced to the penitentiary. got out now. violation for access to a gun. never had no positive influence. my influence was the streets. i thought that was positive. that's all i knew. i'm thinking that is the right way so i'm going to go that way. that's what i did. >> samuels wants to turn his life around for the sake of his son. he doesn't want his boy to grow up without a father, like he did. >> that's my life right there. that's what i got to live for. that's what i think about all the time. i want to straighten my life out for him. i ain't never had no dad. even though my dad would have been good for me, he fell victim to the streets. i'm not trying to be the same. i don't want him growing up like me. i got to be there for him. i'm thinking right now. i'm not doing nothing right for him. so, i have to do something for him. people ain't gonna forget, even if i try to straighten my life up. a lot of people trying to straighten their life up but living in the same environment. somebody come and kill you. people don't forget

>>> mostly county jails, penitentiary right now. i just got a lot of resources in 916 and 70 7. right now i done stretched the home boy hotline to 916 and 71 7. we mostly been dealing with oakland and san francisco, but not even two weeks ago i got a lot of resources from the sacramento area. ~ i don't have a lot of resources in los angeles, but i know people down there that i refer them to if they're from los angeles. >> so, this is a very organic-style operation in that you just do whatever you have to do? >>> yes, ma'am. i'm just trying to -- just trying to do my part, ma'am. like i said, i really -- i feel bad about the things that i did in this community and the threat that i had on people's family with crack cocaine. i know i had affect on people's family. you know, when i see the things, the wildness of the children that come from, you know, not having a strong mother or father in their household, and this is a good chance when i was benefiting back in the late '80s down in the tenderloin, that that child was being affected by my benefits. so, that ain't nothing i'm reall

an inmate at the penitentiary of new mexico proved to be an exception. >> this inmate was every woman's. this is the guy we're all told to fear and to defend ourselves against. >> i'm a serial rapist. i've been convicted in new mexico on three separate occasions for rape. >> he was convicted of three rapes, but he told us he had raped 22 women total. so i knew there were 19 other women out there who he had attacked and terrified. he wanted to remain anonymous, because he was getting out soon and he didn't want any of these victims to see him, because then he'd have to go back into prison. >> when we met him, he was coming up for parole on a 44-year sentence and it wasn't his first time in prison. >> my first rape was in 1975. and i picked up two to ten years on that and i served two. and i was released on parole, i lasted about a week and again was picked up and charged with a rape. i was returned to the santa fe state penitentiary from 1980 to 1986 when i was released again on parole. i lasted on that parole, for about two weeks. and then i began again, serial raping. >> in this rare i

got me a penitentiary back scratcher. this is existence. you make the best of it. get comfortable. you do what you got to do. it is what it is. >> making the best of life at the wabash valley correctional facility is something everyone must learn on their own. it is hard for martin mcdaniel. after officers found a stockpile of prescription pills and a suicide note they put him on a suicide watch. mcdaniel was taken off suicide watch the following day. several weeks later he admitted that despite his earlier denials he was suicidal. >> when i wrote the letter, right, i had intentions of o.d.'ing because my kids wrote me a letter. i was going to wait until after visit and take them that night, right? but it's a good thing they come in the room, man. >> you were, then? >> yeah. yeah. yeah. no doubt about it. >> mcdaniel says his despair was over the impact his incarceration was having on his two young daughters. >> sometimes i think it would be better. >> what would? >> they don't have to weigh the options. i like to see my kids grow up, you know. but -- it's pretty,

kamikaze is a penitentiary mcguyver.electronic whiz, bread ties, fingernail clippers and he's got it fixed in two minutes. is really good at cooking. we get together. have a slam. big nacho slam and make a cake. we say it's a celebration. i say it's to realize we wasted another month in here. it's something to look forward to. >> kamikaze. he makes the cake. >> he is no ordinary cook. among wabash inmates he's a culinary genius, turning snack food into something special. but doing a prior prison term he learned to about different sort of cook. >> i went around to other people who were in prison for cooking meth and got a recipe from this guy and this guy and figured that was going to be my new thing. instead of -- stealing cars wasn't working. the last two times that i got out of prison that was all that i -- my intent was to cook meth. i love to smoke it too. but you know, i like to make it. making something that people really like and getting the reaction from it, you know, that was another thing that i liked about it.

. >> this is my fifth here in the penitentiary. i've been all around.e been in the system for a while. >> soledad, tracy, jamestown, now here. >> many of these inmates are simply resigned to prison as a way of life. >> i will probably come back once or twice on a violation. ♪ i can't shake these penitentiary state blues ♪ >> but flaco has come to the realization that hanging with a street gang does not mean lifetime loyalty. >> well, basically what it boils down to, an eye opener for me was, when i fell, when i got locked up, where were they? you know, the only people writing me, taking care of me right now is my family. all those guys, home boy this, they ain't nowhere to be found right now. you know, so what it boils down to who is really here for me right now is my family. >> and for chester reed, it's that separation from family and his wife of 32 years that is most painful. >> misery i went through inside these walls and the pain that i caused my family, it will never happen again, not in my lifetime. it hurts me just to think of the hurt that i ca

. >> by design, kentucky state penitentiary is a place to serve hard time. while many newer facilities have the distinction of being tougher prisons, kentucky's most violent inmates are still sent to the castle on the cumberland. that's our report. thanks for watching. i'm john seigenthaler. >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >>> america's prisons, dangerous, often deadly. there are 2 million people doing time. every day is a battle to survive and to maintain order. >> down on your feet. down. >> located in the deep south, holman correctional facility, where most are serving life sentences. we spent months documenting life on the inside, where the prisoners have nothing but time and nothing to lose. this is "lockup: holman, extended stay." >>> it requires a unique set of skills to run a violent prison like holman. warden grantt culliver embodies them. he's authoritative. >> you know that. >> dynamic and tough. >> you are not going to win an academy award. >> he shows compassion for the inmates he oversees, many of whom will never

reporter: 1.5 million visitors a year take a boat ride to take a tour of the notorious alcatraz penitentiarye story that everyone loves hearing the tale of the escape. though the island was riddled with holes and places to hide it was considered escape proof. large parts of the island are still closed to tourists including the under ground parts. naomi grits started our understood ground tour. through the maze of under ground tunnels, we searched for a hole that prisoners said would take them right to the ocean. >> if anyone ever found this they could have shimmied out through this. >> and escaped. >> three men clarence anglin his brother and morris disappeared from the prison and were never seen again. did they really get away? darwin coon thinks so. coon is a former inmate who says he helped the three escapees he would have joined them but escape wasn't possible from his cell. >> they're in south america some place i would imagine. one of these days when they get to their death bed they're going to holler here i am and then you will know they made it. >> reporter: iron bars everywhere, gua

still, there are those inmates like alex bennett, at the kentucky state penitentiary, who don't always agree with or abide by the rules. >> i'm a person that's been in the joint all my life. i've been told i'm pretty hard-core. and i need a certain type of environment. you got something you want to say to me now? we can get it on national tv here. do you? >> everything about alex's mannerisms, his appearance and the words that he spoke said convict. alex just embodied that. >> bennett was 54 years old when we met him and had spent 33 of those years behind bars for armed robbery, kidnapping and murder. >> the system today isn't like the system that i came into 36 years ago. the system today has the majority of their inmates programmed to do what they're told when they're told to do it. and so, they get to the point where they expect that from everybody. well, there's still a few old dogs around, who like to do things their own way. >> bennett's way of doing things, however, has had horrifying results. after adapting to life in a single-person cell here, he was transferred to a lower sec

of other bank robberies, some of which landed him a prior 11-year sentence at another federal penitentiarybandit, my cellmate at one time, a world famous bank robber, he holds a record at 72 banks robbed. and i'm like, come on, man, i was just getting warmed up at 72. throughout the years i've probably robbed more than 100 and no more than 150. put it that way. >> torres says the inspiration to become a bank robber occurred when he was a young boy growing up in a tough part of orange county. >> i never had money in my pocket to buy an ice cream when i was a kid, and that used to bother me because all the other kids had money, and i got caught stealing one time, you know, from the neighborhood guy, and i remember i just finished seeing bonnie and clyde movie, back in the day, with warren beatty, and i forget the actress, fay dunn aw away, and i remember walking home that day and i said i'm going to rob a bank, just like bonnie and clyde used to. i was kicking rocks, you know. i was just a kid. >> how much money do you think you've gotten from your bank robberies all these years? >> i don't

reporter: 1.5 million visitors a year take a boat ride to take a tour of the notorious alcatraz penitentiarye story that everyone loves hearing the tale of the escape. though the island was riddled with holes and places to hide it was considered escape proof. large parts of the island are still closed to tourists including the under ground parts. naomi grits started our understood ground tour. through the maze of under ground tunnels, we searched for a hole that prisoners said would take them right to the ocean. >> if anyone ever found this they could have shimmied out through this. >> and escaped. >> three men clarence anglin his brother and morris disappeared from the prison and were never seen again. did they really get away? darwin coon thinks so. coon is a former inmate who says he helped the three escapees he would have joined them but escape wasn't possible from his cell. >> they're in south america some place i would imagine. one of these days when they get to their death bed they're going to holler here i am and then you will know they made it. >> reporter: iron bars everywhere, gua

we were at the penitentiary of new mexico when an inmate tried to break away from his escort officer and tried to stab another inmate with a unique homemade shank. >> he actually fabricated this out of a piece of a pencil sharpener. you can see the rivet right in there. then he attached a paper clip to it and subsequently ran it back, put some plastic cellophane on it, put a rubber band around it to make it more easy to handle specifically when it gets full of blood if you were to slice somebody. he actually admitted he put this on there so he could have some control once he sliced the individual. he's pretty ingenious as far as how he makes weapons. >> the inmate is 30-year-old christopher shiverdecker, and his ability to craft ingenious weapons isn't the only thing that makes him memorable. >> the first time i met him, i was quite shocked by his appearance. i had never seen anyone before who had a giant bullet hole in his forehead. >> it's a tattoo i got a long, long time ago. it's just a bullet hole. it's like a bullet hole. >> shiverdecker has had plenty of time to amass tattoos

penitentiary, atlanta, georgia. so that's the kind of thing were able to get our hands on ourselves was whitey's so-called contractor participate in the lsd project. to continue them one morning two months later, after eating a light breakfast in the dining hall, whitey was taken by a guard to the hospital, a building located on the west side of the prison compound behind the dsl house where he'd been kept initially in the eight-man cell. with the prison population of more than 2600 the size of many small towns across america, the hospital is fully operational. it at 75 beds and for full-time doctors, assisted by a levin medical technicians. prisoners stacked other prisons from clerks to head operating as. in any given year, 250 major and seven and 50 minor surgical procedures were performed. whitey walked through the main door, the main floor, down into the basement toward death whether neuropsychiatric board was come or a large room secured with a steel door and steel bars was set aside for the lsd project. whitey

penitentiary, atlanta georgia. so that's the kind of thing we were able to get our hands on ourselves was whitey's so called contract to participate in the gillespie project. it to continue, one morning, two months later, after eating a light breakfast in the dining hall, whitey was taken by a guard to the hospital, a building located on the west side of the prison compound behind the house he had been cut initially in the eight man cell. with a prison population of more than 2,600, the size of many small towns across america, the hospital was fully operational. it has 75 beds and four full-time doctors assisted by 11 medical technicians. prisoners staff to other physicians from clerk to head operating nurse in any given year 250 major and 750 minor surgical procedures were performed. whitey walked through the main door, the main floor in the down into the basement words f where the nero's psychiatric ward where a large room secured with a steel door was set aside for the lsd project. he was a member of the tuesday

. >> this is the penitentiary. are you serious?ple [ bleep ] kill for that, for real, for real. >> surveillance video from the unit shows another inmate standing outside wright's cell. he then enters the cell and then seconds later exits with wright's television. the inmate then places the tv inside another cell. >> someone stole my tv while i was gone, so, you know, when i came back and [ bleep ] things got ugly. >> from what i heard, he approached several offenders, kind of called them out, wanting to know if they had taken his tv. >> i started going from cell to cell, searching my [ bleep ]. i'm going to search everybody's [ bleep ] until i find what i'm looking for. >> wright's aggressive behavior soon created problems with other inmates. >> i'm not looking for trouble, but at the same time, i'm definitely not ducking them either. you feel me? you know, this is the penitentiary. you've got to stand tall, ten toes down? you know what i mean? you can't take no losses? you know what i mean? it's the wrong place to be a bitch? you

> a bay area landmark commemorating a big-time mark. 52 years ago alcatraz closed as a federal penitentiary. they opened an exhibit of never-before-seen photos. a former prisoner, i guess better than a current prisoner, along with guards that worked on alcatraz will be on hand for this event. nbc bay area will be at today's exhibit and have a full report at 5:00 tonight. >>> 4:51. tense moments as a commuter plane is forced to make an emergency landing with only one working engine. you can see the propeller isn't spinning on one side tichlts on the other. the plane carrying two dozen passengers landed safely in toronto yesterday. no one was hurt. the twin engine plane was having hydraulic problems but the pilot managed to touch down with no trouble. ended up being smooth sailing there. >>> it is 4:51. we will tell you about one former san francisco giant telling us about why he will not be joining the former team even if they ask him. >>> he has designed gowns for the first lady and now helping out a bay area charity. >> oakland, nice bright lights coming southbound. camera shakes a bit. ro

century without its famous inhabitants. 50 years ago this week the last prisoners left the federal penitentiary, which is in the middle of san francisco bay. if you visit soon, you will be able to see a new exhibit there, photographs of the prison on its very final day. you ever been? >> no. >> it's very cool. i don't know why, it's just an empty prison but something about it is cool. >>> time to check the weather across the nation. it still feels like winter almost everywhere. atlanta and nashville will see a messy rain/snow mix. blustery around washington, d.c. rain from little rock to new orleans and a few showers for seattle. >> up to 15 degrees cooler than usual in the midwest with minneapolis at 31 instead of the usual 44. denver has been in the 60s but today drops to the mid-40s. the warmest temps are in the southwest with phoenix in the mid-80s and in the far west, honolulu is 80. >> why do they tease up? >>> coming up, more from our top story. another tragedy for the marines. three marines killed overnight in their base in virginia. >>> then a scare on board a flight in philadelphia. a

the experience i've had in serving terms in prisons of every security level, from united states penitentiary, medium security prison, [speaker not understood] prison and recently minimum security camp, i know the system. ~ better than i know living in society. but the work i've done has helped me land on my feet and i'd like to share those experiences with others. >> thank you. any questions? seeing none, thank you. >>> thank you. >> next person is noel, noel valdivia. >>> [speaker not understood]. >> robert bowden. >>> how are you doing this afternoon, supervisors? my name is robert bowden. i grew up in san francisco and north carolina, i spent 16 years of my life being incarcerated from age 12. i got released from prison in 1997 and i promised god if he gave me another chance, i promised my family that this time that i wasn't going to go back. that's been 15 years ago. many times when i got out,

violence lower rates of accountability and in some cases i mean they cost more than state run penitentiary so what is the selling point here well the proponents say that they are cheaper than public facilities but they're cheaper because they cut corners they cut corners in terms of labor cost and program and services and oftentimes the prisoners they incarcerate earlobe or security they don't detain folks consider convicted of more serious offenses and even the workers if they don't know if they're not seizing the workers to work within the prison they don't necessarily have to deal with problems that arise are really high turnover rate of these and exactly all that they cut corners they hire lower wage lower cost workers and oftentimes they don't put as much investment into training and other labor benefits so the cost are are lower and there is a higher rate of turnover how let's talk about how nine eleven kind of changed the private prison industry was it used as a justification to continue to crackdown on immigrants well there has been an increasing number of immigrants who are detain

violence lower rates of accountability and in some cases i mean they cost more than state run penitentiary so what is the selling point here well the proponents say that they are cheaper than public facilities but they're cheaper because they cut corners they cut corners in terms of labor cost and program and services and often times the prisoners they incarcerate or security they don't detain folks consider convicted of more serious offenses and even the workers that they don't know if they're not seasoned workers to work within the prison they don't know necessarily how to deal with problems that arise are really high turnover rate of these and exactly all that they cut corners they hire lower wage lower cost workers and oftentimes they don't put as much investment into training and their labor benefits so the cost or are lower and there is a higher rate of turnover how let's talk about how nine eleven kind of changed the private prison industry it wasn't used as a justification to continue to crack down on immigrants well there has been an increasing number of immigrants who are detaine

violence lower rates of accountability and in some cases i mean they cost more than state run penitentiary so what is the selling point here well the proponents say that they are cheaper than public facilities but they're cheaper because they cut corners they cut corners in terms of labor cost and program and services and oftentimes the prisoners they incarcerate who are. security they don't detain folks consider convicted of more serious offenses and even the workers if they don't know if they're not season workers to work within the prison they don't know necessarily how to deal with problems that arise are really high turnover rate of these and exactly all that they cut corners they hire lower wage lower cost workers and oftentimes they don't put as much investment into training and their labor benefits so the cost are are lower and there is a higher rate of turnover how let's talk about how nine eleven kind of changed the private prison industry was it used as a justification to continue to crackdown on immigrants well there has been an increasing number of immigrants who are detained

he is serving it in the allenwood penitentiary in pennsylvania. >> look the cia called me a benedictn a benedict arnold. the russians consider me a hero. one country's traitor is another country's hero. it all depends on how you look at it. >> his wife ross sar yo received five years. >> i asked her when did you find out rick was a spy. she demured and said i never really found it out, which was total nonsense. the fbi had tapes of her talking about be careful don't do this wrong. there was a telephone intercept saying don't blow this you know how it is. >> when she got out of prison she was thrown out of the country. >> sandy grimes and jean finally caught this guy. >> nothing to say to him. a waste of my time and my breath. >> case closed. >> case closed. >> we did our job. >> the first cold war may be over, but the new cold war may be just beginning. paul redmond developed his own theory. >> redmond's war and i named it. it's an actuarial certainty there will be spies in your organization. there will always be spies. [ male announcer ] at his current pace, bob will retire when he'

. >> it captures alcatraz in last moments at a federal penitentiary.s a time capsule in black and white. >> an editor of life magazine referred to the work as so intimate it's borderline obscene >> a well known photographer of the period, he found his father's negatives and sent them to the national park service and put them in a book and brought the details back to life. >> one of my favorites is very last image, empty workout yard with no visible life. it looks as if the prisoners dropped their dumbbells and walked away. >> that is his father peeking out from a corner of a picture and brought him as a 12-year-old. >> real emotional, still is. that it is. >> reporter: 50 years ago and feeling like yesterday for a few of us anyway. >> you remember it. >> what kind of father would bring his son to the last day of alcatraz? >> someone.... >> wayne freedman, "abc 7 news." >> dan: the rock. and authorities are now training drug sniffing dogs to ignore marijuana because voters recently legalize small amounts of the drug. legal group is telling a police an a

another day in the penitentiary. >> less than 24 hours after the stabbing, the warden has regrouped,aken the prison off lockdown and is back in control. >> we get these out of here. we had the hall looking great last night. let's try to keep it that way. we learned a few things last night. if you have an incident, at least make the best of it, try to learn what you can out of it. we reorganized the laundry, the way we bring our laundry in. the piece of metal, for things coming off a grinder. i feel that took place in the metal fab. we have a couple suspects that may be producing weapons in the metal fab. we'll try to pull those guys out. it was actually about shoes being stolen. he said he paid the guy three bags of coffee and the guy stole the three bags of coffee plus didn't bring his shoes back, so that's why he stabbed him. >> he had about three stab wounds. the one in his side was serious. the doctor told him they just missed getting his liver, which would have been, could have been, terminal. but after we got him back in from the hospital, he went on to ad-seg, and, of course,

. >> this is what you live for in the penitentiary. never a dull moment. >> bobby must spend time in the bull pen outside while officers clean his cell. >> he can go on up there and strip my [ bleep ] cell. i got 100 friends out here. give me whatever i want to work with. >> finally got him out of the cell, moved him outside. now we'll find what he was busting that window with. here it is. one of the caps from the bull pen out there, the post. bobby getting out of the cell. somehow or another he smuggled this into his cell. one of the caps from the metal post. busting the window out. making all kind of threats about what he was going to do. he's pretty agitated right now. >> just leave him in the yard. >> we're going to leave bobby out there in the bull pen for probably three or four hours, let him calm down, think about it. when he gets through with his mad behavior, he'll be ready to apologize and get back to what he should be. >> ask any officer what he wants, by god, i don't [ bleep ] with nobody. but it's me and neil that have a p

currently serving 19 years to life in a california penitentiary. 2003 the 73-year-old spector apparently murdered an actress named lana clarkson in his hollywood home. the crime was not depicted in the film. instead it was the bizarre spector who was senator stage. >> abraham, martin, and john, 1968 and then they threw away bobby, bobby kennedy. now, we know lincoln freed the slaves. dr. king fought for equality john, screwed the nazis by what the hell did bobby do [bleep] teamsters. and ps, teddy kennedy? what in the world had he ever accomplished? his family you can't get your masseuse license. here sit in the senate for 40 years. have fun. a girl shoots herself in my house and that is the legacy my children will live with. >> bill: joining us now from los angeles lead prosecutor in the spector case alan jackson. i watched the movie and the writer david mammoth did what he did was raise doubt as to whether spector actually killed ms. clarkson. he put forth that there was not enough blood on spector's shirt for him to have committed the crime close up put the gun in the girl's mouth and

. >> major milestone for iraq, 50 years ago today that the alcatraz federal penitentiary closed foreverraz. today there is a special exhibit, former residents and gars expected to attend. >> march madness is going today, with st. mary's playing memphis in auburn hills, michigan, at 11:private and cal gets started at h.p. pavilion get unlv. >> go, bears. >> picked them to win, so, good luck. >> ten mile visibility and everyone is unlimited right now. good news. sunny and reesey and mid-50's at the coast and mid-to-upper 60's for the rest. >> metering lights are on and traffic to the macarthur maze and the santa cruz mountains, you can see the backup to laurel road, a big jam up at redwood estates. >> we continue with news, weather, and traffic during "good morning america" next. >> and another live look at the pacific coast highway and the northbound lanes are blocked with trafficking being diverted off with boths for over 75 years people have saved money with... ohhh... ...with geico... ohhh...sorry! director's voice: here we go. from the top. and action for over 75 years people have sa

. >> and we encountered one of the most compelling examples at the penitentiary of new mexico. kevin blanco. >> he's one of those inmates that can be unpredictable. you really don't know how he's going to behave from one day to the next. >> our first encounter with kevin blanco was through our associate producer. she had gone up to talk to him and was met with a barrage of verbal assaults. >> on the floor [ bleep ]. [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. >> after a while kevin agreed to do an interview, and i was actually very impressed. i was impressed with how he carried himself. he was honest and forthright about the problems he had created in his life. >> i mean, i don't look at prison as being prison, even though it is prison and i'm in a negative environment. i look at it as being my college. this is the time i got to study and build myself up and better myself. it's what you make it. >> but blanco, serving times for crimes including attempted murder, was housed in the prison's highest security unit for a variety of serious offenses, including assaults on staff. >> okay. >> talk to me abo