>> i came from state anamosa penitentiary. due to an inmate causing some problems.wing -- >> hang on. hang on. >> as our cameras roll, fickling's new neighbors continually attempt to disrupt the interview. >> i'm scared to death where i'm at because i don't know what's going to happen. you know. supposedly they say this is the worst penitentiary in iowa. >> but as we learned later, fickling's new neighbors have equal cause to be wary of him. >> the reason i'm mainly in lockup is because i got in a fight. that was my original thing while i was in ft. dodge. i assaulted an officer with urine and feces. >> i don't want to sound ignorant. how do you use your bodily fluids and throw it on somebody? >> i mean -- i used a cup. i mean, there's crazier inmates. they'll put [ bleep ] in their hand and throw it at you. i mean, you got inmates that will smear it on the walls and write graffiti. it just depends on what your mind frame is. that's not me. you know. i don't do that kind of thing, because, i mean, that shows like a little kid, you know, a little kid playing in the t

. >> we met gerald at anamosa state penitentiary in iowa where he was serving two life sentences fortempted murder. 11 years earlier he opened fire at the factory where he worked. >> i was suffering from paranoia schizophrenia and i didn't know it at the time and my family was trying to get me committed and i refused to go to a mental health place because i was afraid they would take away my guns because i'm a gun collector and i had a lot of guns and i knew once they found me mentally incompetent i wouldn't be able to have guns in a minute and developed to the point where i got delusional and i hallucinated and i imagined my wife had been kidnapped, raped, and tourtured and killed by these guys at work and i thought i'd take vengeance and take matters into my own hands and that's what i did. i shot two employees in the head and then i also shot two in the leg. >> his symptoms have been treated for a few years and now works in the metal shop on prison grounds. >> here you are back in a work environment and your fellow workers, do they know what your crime was? i'm just cure ow how th

. >> here, it's colorado state penitentiary. this time estrada is in for murder, a crime he committed after being released from his first prison term. >> in here, you take things a lot more serious. somebody calls you a punk, somebody calls you a bitch, someone says i'm going to kill you, in here that means, you know, you hold people to that word -- to them words, man. when i got out and guys were saying that about me, i'm going to kill john, i'm going to do this to him. the first thing in my mind is i better go kill him before he gets me even though he was probably talking out of his ass. he didn't understand the type of person i am and where i've been and the thought process i've learned in here. and he's dead now for it. it's kind of like a kill or be killed. >> estrada's prison education started early. >> how old were you when you were first arrested? >> about 13 or 14. >> what did you do? >> stealing a stereo out of a car. that's how it all began. start out stealing bubble gum at the stores all the way to snatching purses,

>> this is the maximum security facility on level vi for the penitentiary of new mexico. pretty much houses the worst of the worst. these individuals are the worst of the worst within level vi and level vi is the worst within the whole state of new mexico. >> [ bleep ]. >> [ bleep ]. >> these individuals are housed, one per cell. they're escorted and restrained everywhere they go. in handcuffs or leg irons and belly chains. we do have two and three-man status individuals that are very violent. and they like to assault our staff. >> today we tag along with deputy warden joni brown on her way to deal with one of level vi's most notorious inmates. >> they have an inmate who is refusing to leave his cell. at this point they're going to go in and give him a directive to cuff up and come out. if not, then we're planning the use of force for cell extraction. >> turn around and be restrained. >> no. >> if you don't turn around and be restrained we'll have to forcibly remove you from your cell. are you going to come out? >> what's going to happen now? >> they're going to instruct

the sex offender we met at iowa's anamosa state penitentiary has a very different existence. larry morgan spends nearly every hour of every day inside a small protective custody cell where he never sees the sun. >> well, what happened is they accused me of killing a little girl back in 1994 and next thing i know i'm in prison. and then there's people talking about a contract supposed to be out on me. >> morgan was convicted of kidnapping, raping and murdering a 9-year-old girl. he is serving life without the possibility of parole. >> there's been a lot of threats against me. it was a high-profile crime at the time. and everybody in the system knew about it, and of course they're all trying to stand up and be some sort of righteous convict. and it's like, oh, well, you know. i only rob banks, or i only do drugs, you know. i only sell crack to kids but this guy, he killed one, so now we're going to go and kill him. >> protective custody inmates like morgan are locked in their cells 23 hours a day to keep them from other inmates. >> at first it's kind of claustrophobic being in

an inmate at the penitentiary of new mexico proved to be an exception. >> this inmate was every woman's. this is the guy we're all told to fear and to defend ourselves against. wóóó0 >>> it's not uncommon for hard-core inmates to share the grisly details of their crimes with us. but rapists almost never do. an inmate at the penitentiary of new mexico proved to be an exception. >> this inmate was every woman's worst nightmare. this is the guy we're all told to fear and to defend ourselves against. >> i'm a serial rapist. i've been convicted in new mexico on three separate occasions for rape. >> he was convicted of three rapes, but he told us he had raped 22 women total. so i knew there were 19 other women out there who he had attacked and terrified. he wanted to remain anonymous, because he was getting out soon and he didn't want any of these victims to see him, because then he'd have to go back into prison. >> when we met him, he was coming up for parole on a 44-year sentence and it wasn't his first time in prison. >> my first rape was in 1975. and i picked up two to ten years on that

>> we met murray at iowa state penitentiary serving ten years for stealing cars.nt the last two years as cell house 220 also known as the hole. >> this is your maximum security unit inside of a maximum security prison. here's where we house all the inmates that couldn't be handled at another institution or couldn't be handled in our general population area. now we have to deal with them over here. >> during his time in prison and especially in the hole, murray has found a coping device in self-mutilation. >> i've been in here so long it kind of releases stress. >> how do you cut yourself? >> i was on razors but they put me on razor restriction and i find stuff in here, staples, plastic from deodorants and stuff like that. >> when was the last time you cut yourself? >> about two weeks ago. >> the next day on their way to another interview in cell house 220, our crew ran into murray as correctional officers were moving him into a holding area so that they could inspect his cell. >> can you tell us what is going on? >> we are taking him out to shake down his cell? >>

. >> well, i met him while i was working at the penitentiary. and he was one of my patients.s a real smart one, smart alec, funny guy. and i was, too. i was feisty right back to him. we just started messing around, joking around like that. i think that's what our playfulness with each other, what got david and i to start a friendship. >> as the old saying goes, you can't help who you fall for. you know? >> david and i had known each other for seven months when we finally got caught. >> an officer came up to me and told me that he thought there were some improprieties going on between david and a nurse. okay? so what i did is i pulled up his information on the computer. i had a bunch of phone calls from the inmate. and then i started listening to some phone calls, and the name paula came up. and paula happened to be the nurse that the officer told me about. >> they said that they recognized her voice on the telephone. we were communicating, you know, outside of the prison system. i didn't want to get her in any kind of trouble. but i couldn't stop communicating with her. there

. >>> at kentucky state penitentiary, some inmates can apprentice in an auto body shop. at rikers island jail, a bakery churns out nearly 90,000 loaves of bred per week while teaching inmates how to bake. in many of the prisons profiled on "lockup," inmates have opportunities to learn skills that can help them find work on the outside. but all too many spend their time honing skills more suitable to mayhem and murder. >> i stabbed an inmate 12 times over some dope in front of the chow hall. >> i took a knife and stabbed him with it three or four times until he was dead. and then i butchered him with it. >> you find a piece of metal or something, file it down on the concrete. it ain't got to be sharp, it's just got to have a point. put your handle on it and do what you need to do. >> "lockup" crews are regularly exposed to the tools of a deadly trade. >> you know, in every prison we film in, there's always a shank museum. a place where the authorities display all the weapons that are confiscated by staff. homemade weapons the inmates have made from bed springs or melted d

that's part of what they call penitentiary rules., the man lay back, that's all he has to do. he doesn't even have to brush his teeth. he just smiles, i brush his teeth for him. >> what about women's lib? you know, women are liberated now. >> right. they are. >> women don't have to wait on their husbands anymore. how do you feel about that? >> i choose to. i choose to. >> housework isn't the only way in which prison marriage is less than a union of equals. as precious explains in this graphic never-before-seen interview footage -- >> if there is any sexual activity taking place, he is the man. you know, he is the surrogate all the time. i'm always the recipient of whatever it is. it doesn't matter if it's oral or anal or however you want to look at it. because he's my husband. he's the man. i can never penetrate him or get no oral sex or anything like that from him. if i choose to, you know, go and release myself, then i have to go get me a girl to go do it with. >> our producer then questioned whether the relationship between precio

. >>> the day we arrived at colorado state penitentiary, a super max prison at the base of the rocky mountains, we found a sterile, austere environment, steel doors behind which inmates are locked up 23 hours a day, but despite his surroundings, inmate shawn shields was in high spirits. when he sat down with us, he was eager to help our producer get the interview under way. >> quiet on the set, you >> it's a prison, you know. >> all right. let's roll tape. >> then he calmly told us how he got 16 years added to his original sentence of 12 for robbery. >> me and another inmate had an altercation. i manipulated the door so that it wouldn't latch completely, and when he came out to walk, i came down after him and proceeded to stab him. >> why? was it because you guys weren't getting along? >> it was just a verbal altercation. >> does it happen a lot in here? >> there is a lot of verbal altercations between people. you got to understand. there's 16 men living together behind closed doors with stress, animosity toward one another in some cases, and it's not always a pleasant place to be. >

. >>> nestled at the base of the rocky mountains, colorado state penitentiary was built to house thetate's most violent and disruptive inmates. it gives new meaning to the words hard time. >> we decided that csp could not be a place where inmates could get comfortable and make a life for themselves. we had to treat them differently. >> colorado state isn't just any maximum security prison. it's a super max facility. inmates here are considered a constant threat and are confined to single-person cells 23 hours a day. >> i was astounded by how sterile and stark and what tough time it would be to serve in that particular prison. i think that would be the hardest time possible. >> many of the inmates we spoke to agreed. they say the isolation is too much. >> i've been here a long time. i've seen a lot of guys, seen them snap, you know? any given day they can snap. >> 23 hours a day you're locked down. you come out for five hours a week. essentially it's just another cell. it's a dead room with a pull-up bar. there is window where you can get some fresh air. that's it. # everywhere you go

we work together. >> our visit to the anamosa state penitentiary in iowa led us to a memorable pair ofel and brad love whose lifelong allegiance drove them to kill. >> growing up i wanted to be him, you know. he was almost four years older than me. i see him running around drinking. breaking into stuff. doing whatever he is doing. i'm like i want to be like him. that's my big brother. that's my idol. so i kind of followed in the same footsteps. >> but as the love brothers revealed to our crew, those footsteps led down a bloody path that ended at a holiday party in the trailer park. >> christmas night, 1992, me and my brother went to a party with what we thought were friends. but they tried to rob us. take the liquor that we brought. >> they started beating me up. four of them. >> they hurt brad. i couldn't let them get away with that. they threatened his life. and i just couldn't handle that. so we left went to my trailer. i got a shotgun. my brother got a knife. machete. we went back out there and did what we did. >> i remember mike standing there he had the gun pointed at the door of

i read in the history books how other presidents say the white house is like a penitentiary and everythey have is suspect. george washington complained he was treated like a common thief and they say they cannot wait to get away. i do not know what they are talking about. [laughter] president clinton: i've had a wonderful time. it has been fun to serve and laugh. i wish we would have left more these last eight years. because power is not the most important thing in life. it only counts for what you use it. i thank you for what you do everyday. thank you for all of the fun times that hillary and i have had. keep at it. it is a great country. it deserves our best. thank you and god bless you. [applause] >> the white house correspondents' dinner is next saturday and we expect remarks from president obama. this year's entertainment is "saturday night live's" cecily's. starting at 6:30 p.m. eastern on c-span. >> george w. bush attended his final white house correspondents' dinner as president in 2008. here are his remarks. [applause] president bush: thank you all. [applause] president bush

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we were at the penitentiary of new mexico when an inmate tried to break away from his escort officer. and tried to stab another inmate with a unique homemade shank. >> he actually fabricated this out of a piece of a pencil sharpener. you can see the rivet right in there. he attached a paper clip and ran it back, put some plastic cellophane on it, put a rubber band around it to make it more easy to handle specifically when it gets full of blood if you were to slice somebody. he actually admitted he put this on there so he could have some control once he sliced the individual. he's pretty ingenious as far as how he makes weapons. >> the inmate is 30-year-old christopher shiverdecker and his ability to craft ingenious weapons isn't the only thing that makes him memorable. >> the first time i met him, i was quite shocked by his appearance. i had never seen anybody before with a giant bullet hole in his forehead. >> i got that long, long time ago. it's just a bullet hole. it's like a bullet hole. >> shiverdecker has had plenty of time to amass tattoos and learn the ways of prison. at an ag

. >> we saw an example of this firsthand when we met joe sanchez at the penitentiary of new mexico. >i've been doing this since 1981. in and out, in and out, in and out. >> sanchez was nearing his release date after serving five years for burglary but wasn't very optimistic about his chances on the outside. >> nobody ever makes parole. they all come back. come back and discharge and go right back out there again, and we learn nothing because there's no rehabilitation in here, you know? go right back out there and do the same damn thing over and over and over. ♪ oh oh oh >> joe sanchez was the perfect example of an institutionalized inmate. we see that a lot when we're filming in prisons. these guys have become so acclimated to prison life, they're more comfortable there than in the free world, and the first time i met joe, he had been in trouble for some kind of infraction. he was constantly getting in trouble, but he also told me that he was due to be released soon, and without skipping a beat then said he was terrified of getting out. >> and i keep snapping at these cos and picking

still, there are those inmates like alex bennett, at the kentucky state penitentiary, who don't always agree with or abide by the rules. >> i'm a person that's been in the joint all my life. i've been told i'm pretty hard-core. and i need a certain type of environment. you got something you want to say to me now? we can get it on national tv here. do you? >> everything about alex's mannerisms, his appearance and the words that he spoke said convict. alex just embodied that. >> bennett was 54 years old when we met him and had spent 33 of those years behind bars for armed robbery, kidnapping and murder. >> the system today isn't like the system that i came into 36 years ago. the system today has the majority of their inmates programmed to do what they're told when they're told to do it. and so, they get to the point where they expect that from everybody. well, there's still a few old dogs around, who like to do things their own way. >> bennett's way of doing things, however, has had horrifying results. after adapting to life in a single-person cell here, he was transferred to a lower sec

. >>> the penitentiary of new mexico houses both low-level and maximum security inmates. the most dangerous and notorious are held in level six. >> you want to make me look like the monster. i've been here over 2 1/2 years. i never did nothing. i don't disrespect nobody. i don't cause no problems or nothing, but just because i'm small and able to slip the handcuffs any time i want, i'm a problem. i got locked up when i was about 10 1/2. i got grand theft auto. i've been to probably over 30 prisons. probably around 20 in florida. six or seven in oklahoma. three here. i don't get in trouble. i don't disrespect anybody. cops come to my door. i'm always, yes, sir, no, sir. yes, ma'am, no, ma'am. i don't disrespect nobody. i've made my mistakes and did some stupid stuff when i was young. but hurt somebody to where they went to the hospital and ended up dying later on, you know, but never been charged with murder. a lot of people, like, the first thing they think about me is they think about somebody like mcgyver or something. because i stabbed somebody with some jolly ranchers

alaska, we found a pair of cellmates who seem more like frat house brothers has been cellmates in a penitentiary. when we met richard evans and and mikingmiking -- >> i was tattooing. >> who were you tattooing? >> this is the one we got caught doing right here. we got ran up on while we were doing this. >> you busted us for real? >> thank you, gentlemen. >> he hangs out here, coming out the window, i'll be right out, i'm be right out. >> this bond also has a dark side, the cellmates share a strong appetite for methamphetamine. >> what am i in for? cooking meth. back in 2002, i get pulled over, i have a whole lab in the car, microwave and everything. they pulled me over for a traffic stop and they say, what we got here? cooking meth, what a surprise. >> i was cooking it, doing it. anything i could do with it, i was. i can't lie, i like it, the meth, and the whole lifestyle that comes with it. going to clubs, naked girls dancing, oh, what's up? never sleep, never sleep. >> bochier landed in prison after a robbery to support his meth habit earned him 18 years. >> i went from the whole progression f

. >> inmates who become disruptive or violent at the penitentiary of new mexico are transferred to the lockup units in level 5 or 6. the trouble is, once inside, their behavior doesn't always improve. a lesson rookie amy lee is learning the hard way. >> i went upstairs to ask joseph if he wanted to go to the shower. he told me to take his next-door neighbor. i said, no, it's your turn right now, so we're going to go. he said, no, i'm not going right now. i said, okay, so at this point, you're refusing. we later went up with a sergeant and he used choice words, calling me a tramp. >> i snapped at her, yelled at her. and she got her little feelings hurt. if she don't -- if her feelings are gonna go get hurt, go work at a damn church. >> this is what's going to happen. we will pull him out, all right? you're going to -- you can just hang out in there. and we'll bring him to you. >> okay. >> it's time, joe. >> how come she's got to be sitting across from me like that? >> what's all this, joe? have a seat. >> why does she have to be sitting across from me like that? >> because she's a membe

the other option, life in prison, most likely a penitentiary in colorado.nbc's pete williams has been covering this trial since it began. he'll have much more about what happens next coming up on the "today" show at 7:00 this morning. >>> it is 6:08 right now. time to check that microclimate forecast. as we look out our window over the bay bridge, and this is one of the prettiest parts of the day as the sun starts to rise over the bay area. meteorologist christina loren is watching that and she's watching the radar which is not busy today. >> not busy today, which means an easier drive for everybody headed outdoors right now. kris, scott, everybody at home, good morning to you. temperatures are chilly to start. we have some high, thin clouds out there, as we get into your afternoon, that cool start will make way for a warm and sunny finish to the day. let me show you your day part forecast into the low to mid-60s by noon today, and then rounding out the day, maybe you get off work at about 4:00 p.m., temperatures will be nice and comfortable at that point.

is investigating allegations that the penitentiary peace keepers sexually exploited children in the centralafrican republic. >>> the saudi-led coalition has striking yemen's airport and a coalition airstrikes. the saudis say that jets were forced to bomb the country's primary airport to intercept and iranian plane. iranians have been accused of flying in weapons to arm the houthi rebels, but the iranians have said they're only bringing much needed humanitarian aid to yemenis. >> this is catastrophic. it's affecting our ability to receive humanitarian aid and fly out stranded foreigners. they have cut off the only civilian runway left. >> in the southern port city of aden, a cloud hung over the mountains on the edge of this city. sources tell al jazeera it was the result of a coalition airstrike hitting houthi targets, but witnesses say people ran from their homes after houthi tanks came into the neighborhood the city and rebels went door to door destroying buildings. >> people complained about the lack of basic necessities such as water, wheat, electricity and gas, but they vowed to continu

, prisoners are remotely monitored california's pelican bay state prison is a maximum security penitentiary, where 500 inmates have been locked in administrative segregation for more than ten years. nearly 200 inmates there have experienced more than 15 years in isolation. and still another 78 have spent two decades confined to an eight by ten cell. a federal judge in oakland is allowed hundreds of prisoners at pelican bay to join a lawsuit, challenging the constitutionality of their solitary confinement. the suit originally brought by the center for constitutional rights on behalf of ten inmates arguing their confinement in the security housing unit is cruel and unusual punishment. a violation of their rights and c.c.r. says experts con skulling in bringing the lawsuit found long term solitaire con finement caused psychiatric morbidity, and disability. the people that inhabit these prisons are not the most sympathetic population. it is the answer i would rather worry about the victims, but right now across the country, we are beginning to move away from the extremely long sentences that we

deciding whether he should be put to death or sentenced to life in prison most likely the super max penitentiary in california. >> on victimed so quickly in 30 charges signals to me that the jury might not be so hesitant to vote for the death penalty. >> i may be standing on one fake leg, but i'm standing here stronger than ever because someone tried to destroy me and he failed. >> reporter: the judge has yet to set a time and date for the second phase of the trial. for now the jury will have a few days off. >> pete will yamts, thank you so much for that report. new polling kuktded by msnbc news shows 47% of those questioned would prefer the death penalty. the online polling was convicted over three days. >>> now to the race for 2016. there were different headlines for the republicans officially declaring their candidacy of presidency. cruz has raised a staggering $31 million for his campaign. it speaks to what should be unprecedented levels of spending in 2016 and suggestions serious fund raising competition for jeb bush. and then there's the headline for senator rand paul who got testy with ou

. >> people told me that you eat better in the penitentiary.ter than you do in the county jail. >> i remember when i was getting the shot of jason sitting down and finally eating it was like a kid at a picnic with all the best food, you know, all the best food imaginable, lake a kid in a candy store. he was just putting it in his mouth, having a great time. >> at the miami-dade county jail, we met a group of friends who couldn't quite agree on the culinary merits of lunch. >> this is the only meal that's not great. the only one that's not great, it's bologna every day. a hot meal at night. >> this is the best part of the day, lunch time. and this is how we eat. >> sandwich. >> nice cold cuts. they're great. >> i don't want to trade a sandwich. >> we enjoy sometimes. >> this is turkey salami with little pieces of peppercorn in there that like to jam in your teeth and burn your mouth. they're terrible. >> these apple pies. >> we have cheese. we've got cheese. we've got a pear that will ripen in a couple days. we've got an orange that's ripe now a

government's lethal injection chamber in indiana or sentenced to life in prison most likely the supermax penitentiary in colorado. >> convicting so quickly on 30 charges signals to me that the jury -- again, we don't know -- signals to me that the jury might not be so hesitant to vote for the death penalty. >> reporter: but for now today was a moment of victory for many victims. >> i may be standing on one fake leg, but i'm standing here stronger than ever because someone tried to destroy me. and he failed. >> reporter: the judge has given the jury the rest of the week off. so the next phase of the trial on the penalty starts some time next week. lester. >> pete williams, thanks. among the injured that day in boston were brothers j.p. and paul norden who were gravely wounded in the second blast. their mother sat down with us today with her reaction to the verdict. >> i literally saw my sons get blown up. i saw the fear in their eyes. you know, like help me. it was awful. i want to see, you know, what kind of a person could do this. he could have walked away. he stood there five minutes. he saw so man

. >> none of these kids want to go to the penitentiary. and sometimes they act tough. "i don't care if i go." but you know what? they do care. they care a lot. and they don't want to end up like friends and relatives. and they don't want to end up dead. >> he comes out the hearing with the weight of the decision on his shoulders. >> psh- i got found guilty for it. >> i thought that [bleep] rushed you? >> he did. that's bull [bleep]. i'm putting in an appeal for it right now. >> i'll help you do it alright? >> alright. [bleep] man. this bleep]ing [bleep] made that [bleep]. >> i mean i don't really think this program's helping me. >> no? why not? >> it's not something that i need. >> is part of the theory that if you think about it and talk about it and kind of work through it that you come out the other side better? >> honestly, i think this place has just made me a better criminal. >> how do you mean? >> i've learned more stuff than i would learn on the outs. >> the measure of whether cambiar works will be kids like keidrik, vincente and keith who finally gets to see h

in mecca was in the texas penitentiary for 18 months and someone made an escape to the guards we're going to kill him i grabbed him because i did not want him to die in the lieutenant said hook him up bounty hunter in and watch the show ted herbalife with steve mcqueen he was bad guy a gond good guy and i thought that could be me and i have that knowledge so when i got out and went to a post office to gut the top democrat in one of them and 36 years later here we are. kennedy: what is the difference? you talk about law-enforcement a lot to there is a lot of discussion about the militarization of police and cops being more heavy-handed now than they used to be but what is the biggest difference from what you do and typical law enforcement? director date the only difference is cameras. we did not have that. the abuse is with anything. nowadays they used by the camps and the dash can and if you chase a guy like that for a couple of days you cannot wait to get him to pop him with the if the camera is running you will not cop in the more they will slow down. kennedy: deal like that? >> should

kozlowski was in a state penitentiary, he had cells. >> i took a tour o, l.a.hing about it was that there weren't individual cells. very few. some of the hardened guys had to be, but an eye opener. did he have a reason to be worried about his safety? >> i think in this particular instance, no. we also went to kentucky. spent some time with a fellow who is in prison in one of these things. i don't think that those particular places are nearly as dangerous. we also went to a women's prison, actually. which was fascinating. i mean some people talk about these things. there's a yoga class that she goes to in the morning. >> one of the routines that sesallysesour sister network cnbc and they have a lot of "lockdown" shows and they've been very successful. i watched a couple that were incredible and one was in a women's prison. but i never, i didn't realize we would snoop to that for ratings at this point. >> thanks. thanks, joe. >> but now we've done it. it's different than "lockdown" this is white collar. >> this is white collar. look, to me this is like "orange is

. >>> the penitentiary of new mexico holds some of the most violent offenders in the state.ths there, we saw some of the violence firsthand. but in 1980, pnm was site of one of the deadliest u.s. prison riots where inmates killed 33 of their own. >> jumped off february. almost by accident. big thing i couldn't get out of my head is they actually did it. we actually took the place over. >> james whittington survived the riot to return to the old main facility to show our producers what he witnessed. >> 27 years ago when i got up out of here. i didn't think i would ever see it again. leadership of the inmates decided hey, you know, this control center is takable. there was a huge industrial fire extinguisher that used to sit on one of these walls on hooks. three individuals lifted that industrial fire extinguisher off and said work on this window right here. the window began to give in. all three of these windows were taken out. >> once they broke that, they had access to the entire facility. they had full control. >> this is where it all turned bad after they busted up and go

they went to jackson, mississippi where they were beaten and vailed and sent to the state penitentiarywis did not take that fellowship and go to india. he stayed in the south. he was refusing to stop being nonviolent. he became ahead of the student nonviolent coordinating committee, at age 23, he was the man who spoke just before martin luther king gave his "i have a dream" speech. he was the youngest speaker that day. he was beaten and arrested atmosphere frequently and recently than anyone else who spoke that day. he worried everyone the most that day. he writes now in the new book about the frantic up to the last second appeals to johnson lose for that speech to please tone it down. and he did tone it down a little. >> robert john lewis. >>> joining us now for "the interview" is congressman john lewis, and nate powell, who helped do this book. thank you, gentleman, this is amazing. you're doing a trilogy. collectively, what did you learn when part one was so successful? what did you learn about telling this history and how much people knew about it and what they can still learn from

. >> this is what you live for in the penitentiary. >> you want to think it's funny. >> tough [ bleep ]. >> never a dull moment. >> we send our producers and crews inside prisons. their job is to be objective observers. but in the first week of filming inside limon correction facility in colorado, something unusual happened. we inadvertently became part of the story we were covering. >> why is everybody getting agitated? we were in ad seg, administrative segregation, the prison within a prison. we started hearing inmates screaming out things and i started to hear them talking about cho-mos, which are sex offenders and then mayhem erupted. [ bleep ] >> i believe he threw a liquid substance under the door that smelled somewhat suspicious and we're going to report that. >> jonathan hall, serving 40 years for murder, was one of the first inmates to make it clear we weren't welcome in administrative segregation. >> unless he does calm down and follow our rules and orders, he'll be cell extracted. >> inmate hall won't calm down. so they call in the special response team. and they suit up in

. >> and we encountered one of the mest compelling examples of such an inmate at the penitentiary of new mexico. kevin blanco. >> he's one of those inmates that can be unpredictable. you really don't know how he's going to behave from one day to the next. >> our first encounter with kevin blanco was through our associate producer. she had gone up to talk to him and was met with a barrage of verbal assaults. >> on the floor [ bleep ]. when they came up [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. >> after a while kevin agreed to do an interview, and i was actually very impressed. i was impressed with how he carried himself. he was honest and forthright about the problems he had created in his life. >> i mean, i don't look at prison as being prison, even though it is prison and i'm in a negative environment. i look at it as being my college. this is the time i got to study and build myself up and better myself. it's what you make it. >> but blanco, serving time for crimes including attempted murder, was housed in the prison's highest security unit for a variety of serious offenses, including assaults on staf

. >>> visitors to the eastern state penitentiary, they are not usually shown in public, but they are going on display as part of a pop-up museum an escape tunnel map and mugshots of escaped inmates and weapons that were confiscated. the museum opens up to the public tomorrow and that should be a cool show. >> i checked it out and it was very, very cool. up next, police in one community are warning drivers about a new rash of thefts. >>> just how he got discovered. coming up in big talkers. m. with lookout decks for star gazing? yeah. cool! wait. how...? you've got the new instant game from the pennsylvania lottery. oh yeah! the wizard of oz with top prizes of $300,000. there's a full moon tonight! [male announcer] want to see your dreams come to life? you could scratch your way to instant winning. the pennsylvania lottery. bring your dreams to life. >>> from our delaware newsroom police are warning about a new crime trend criminals are stealing the tailgate off pickup trucks through delaware county. other agencies through the county say they have seen similar crimes as well. they are

which means i could have gotten into the penitentiary. just north of manhattan.t test taker. just a logical guy. again, thanks for watching us tonight. ms. megyn is next. i'm bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops >> i don't know what justice is. >> will he face the death penalty? that's the next step. his fate now in the hand of jurors. >> and american sniper too violent for college students at one major campus? now the pc police are reversing their controversial decision not to show it. we have a big update for you. "fox & friends first" starts right now. >>> good morning to you and your family. you're watching "fox & friends first." it is 4:59 here on the east coast. i'm ansley earhardt. i'm heather childers. we appreciate you starting your day with us. french television station under the control of isis hackers. supporters of the terror group took over the paris station social media page's website and all of its television channels overnight. the hackers posted identity cards of relatives of french soldiers similar to an incident that happened recently

>> they don't let you be outside at a certain time in the penitentiary. you have bed check at 6:00.o somebody coming counting making sure you're this your cell. when you been doing it 30 years and know the routine like i know it it takes a while to get use to someone not coming through to count to make sure you're in your bed. >> so darkness walking freely. i understand speaking of routine, here you can order any food imaginable. i understand you're sticking with fried chicken which is something you could have had in prison. >> i prefer it out here. it's cooked better. >> i bet it taste a little sweeter, i imagine. >> it is. i'm just so happy to be out. i'm so thankful to god for bringing me through it. i always said i'm thankful to mr. stephenson for sticking by me and working night and day, seven days a week to secure my freedom because i shouldn't have ever been on death row in the first place. >> mr. stephenson i have questions for you. ray, i have to stick with you. i have a lot of questions. big, little in between. staying with the notion of meals. i was reading an interview y

and here i sit on my third penitentiary number, again. >> facing charges of the aggravated robbery, burglarygerment, goodman had hoped to be sentenced to a rehabilitation program but a recent plea offer has not left her optimistic. >> i talked to my lawyer and he said your plea deal is three years. i was stunned. i was like three what? and he's like three years. and i was like, umm, oh wow. but i was told there was no other plea deals. it was just the one plea deal. and if we didn't want it then it was going to trial and we're looking at 5 to 8 years. i was pissed because it feels like your life is over with. >> she says she plans to refuse the plea deal in hopes that her judge will still send her to rehab. >> worst case scenario, prison trying -- and rehab. >> drugs are absolutely available in prison. however they get them in there. they get them in. people come in with stuff in their -- >> yeah. >> vagina stuff. >> i've heard. >> tobacco, whatever you want is available up there. i've seen it all. any drug she wants is available. so if she's not serious she is going to be able to get high u