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penn jillette, what grade do you give the president? >> he said b plus. that's the only possible answer you can give. any president, any time in history, any human being. if you ask me how i am as a husband, a driver, a juggler, a magician, i will answer b plus. higher than that, you're an ass. lower than that, you're pathologically honest. the only possible answer is b plus. i would go to a-minus if i checked my rear view mirror and that's for all of those. >> larry: larry elder, what grade do you give? >> i would point out the american people had him at 43%, 44% in the latest rasmussen poll. if he were to run again today, he would not be reelected. >> larry: depending who ran against him, right? >> that's true. if i ran, he probably would get elected. i would give him a d minus on the economy. i like what he's doing in afghanistan. i don't like the fact that he put a deadline on it. and regarding our nato allies, yes, they do like him a lot better than they liked george w. bush. but until very recently they did not put a single combat troop in afghanist

. >> larry: penn jillett, you agree with that? >> being 6'7" and 280 pounds i think too big to fail is a good thing. if i had said the phrase fat cats i would have been spelling it p-h-a-t and it would have been a good thing. maybe he's saying a good thing about the people he gave so much money to. >> larry: s.e., banks are lobbying against a bill to tighten regulatary controls? are you going to let the inmates run the asylum? >> we do need regulation but it's putting them in a tough spot. >> larry: so? >> they're trying to make responsible decisions, and i think president obama needs to respect the fact that they're trying to be responsible after years of irresponsibility. you don't scold someone who's trying to be responsible. you help them. the tone was like something out of a chicago backroom gentleman's club, lend or else. it was strong arming. the tone should really be let's work together. let's strike a balance to assure your long-term health and that the long-term health of the economy. >> larry: professor reich, puzzling.

. >> larry: penn jillette, do you oppose -- >> does he say taxpayers get the money back? that seems insane to me. if you give me, larry, you give me $700 billion. you can call me anything you want any time on any show you want anywhere. deal? >> larry: good point, isn't it s.e. cupp? >> absolutely. but the obama administration is indignant forgetting the fact they were behind these bailouts to begin with and scolding them for using the money seems a little misplaced. the obama administration has to realize their own culpability. >> larry: president obama sat down with oprah winfrey and she asked him how he would grade himself? >> the economy is growing again. we are on our way out of iraq. i think we've got the best possible plan for afghanistan. we have reset our image around the world. we are -- we have achieved an international consensus around the need for iran and north korea to disable their nuclear weapons and i think that we're going to pass the most significant piece of social legislation since social security, and that's health insurance for every american. >> l