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announcer: major funding for "tell me more with kelly corrigan" is provided by the penner family foundationng th support from the gordon and llura gund foundation. ♪ kelly: so here's a bucket-list item. i am biking around new york city with david byrne. what do you love about new york city? david: i love the mixture of people in new york city... kelly: yeah. david: that you encounter all the time. i just love it. if you're open to them, they're totally happy to talk to you and tell you what they're doing. [distant siren] well, we got the sirens, people selling stuff on the street. there was a new vendor about a block from me who just set up a table [chuckling] with lots of stuff on it, and i thought, "yeah, this is pretty good, this is pretty good. i wonder what he's got."