carl is writing for the pensacola newspaper. he is joining us on the phone. thanks for being with us. host: it is the first time to the region since the oil spill. what will the presidency? >> lots of anxiety. many people hoping -- we have beautiful beaches here, easily among the most beautiful and well. it is pure, white sand. the picture of the oil coming ashore is very ugly. you have pretty much a beach economy here that will be brought to an abrupt standstill. host: we saw some of the pictures over the weekend as phe oil now in the form of large balls, once it hits the sand begins to melt on the white sand you just referred to. guest: yes, we have heard various things, including that once it hits the sand is fairly easy to clean up. the problem is that once the weather hits, it just keeps coming. once you are inside the bay have been active in oyster fishery, on the east bay on the of mullet shrimp in the bay, so we're very concerned if it gets inside itbay. host: what will be the long- term economic impact? guest: we had ju

skimers have been deployed near pensacola. the goal is to remove that oil from near-shore waters and prevent and minimize any potential impacts to our state. will be. >> lehrer: as the oil spread, the federal government again expanded its closure of fishing grounds. more than one-third of federal waters in the gulf are now off limits. more than 75,000 square miles of ocean stretching nearly to cuba. at an afternoon speech in pittsburgh, president obama refocused on possible criminal wrongdoing, leading up to the spill. >> the catastrophe unfolding in the gulf right now may prove to be a result of human error. or of corporations taking dangerous shorted cuts to compromise safety. but we have to conditional that-- acknowledge that there are inherent risks to drilling four miles beneath the surface of the earth. >> lehrer: today, federal officials approved a permit for a new offshore well in the gulf in shallow water about 50 miles off louisiana. a moratorium on deep water drilling remains in effect. >> ifill: jit zeit and anger

>> i got a tar ball on my leg today while i was swimming at pensacola beach. i didn't expect this when i came to florida. >> ifill: the impact on wildlife continues to grow. at a bird clean facility in fort jackson, louisiana, veterinarian sharon taylor says the damage to wildlife is more widespread than it even appears. >> this is an unprecedented spill. we have never seen anything like this. and this is a fragile ecosystem t is a marsh ecosystem t is very challenging to get in and clean, you know, or to deal with and it is, it is a travesty. i have small children. my children say can't they turn it off? >> ifill: in washington president obama said government efforts are working. >> this will be contained. it may take some time and it's going to take a whole lot of effort. but the one thing i'm absolutely confident about is that as we have before, we will get through this crisis. >> ifill: the president also predicted that the region would bounce back once the cleanup is complete. for a for a closer look at the scope and complexity of that cleanup effort, we

it is 3 miles of the pensacola path. what steps are florida officials taking to prepare the beaches and the areas for the innovation of some oil? guest: they have deployed a lot of the boomssand they have they have marshaled a lot of resources. and a lot of people in the pensacola area to begin the cleanup process. fourth trip to the gulf coast, she will return on tuesday to speak to the nation -- e will return on tuesday to speak to the nation, what do you hear that he will talk about in the guest: i think he will try to provide more hands-on leadership on the issue, as well as ratcheting up the pressure on bp with escrow account you were just referring to. host: alex leelee and washingtoary in washington, thar being here this morning. denise and pootland oregon onn our democrats line. caller: i do not understand all of the details, but what i have learned is that the biggest problem with the oil spill is that every branchhof governmmnt seems so entrenched and controlled by one another that they cannot get anything done

tripp baird is a native of florida -- guest: pensacola.ost: the next phone call comes from jay, a republican. caller: yes, daytona beach, florida. thanks for exercising your fifth amendment right. just like the last caller, this is a visceral reaction we're getting any time a challenge will happen in the federal government as far as controlling what we do as citizens, it seems the democratic side gets extremely angry and agitated, and mad when we bring up the true issues. one of the biggest things i want to know about and this financial regulatory bill, why is there no addressing the fannie and freddie situation? business as usual with that. why is that not been regulated, been left completely out instead? guest: it is a great question. i think everyone around washington is scratching their head. we all know the reason. fannie and freddie have been a democratic stronghold from day one. barney frank has been their best friend forever. you can look as far as the senate banking committee, chris dodd. these are the biggest supporters. i used t

they have a lot of people in the pensacola area to begin9kw3sp e cleanup process. host: as the president makes his fourth trip down to the gulf coast and this time the first stop is in florida then he will return on tuesday to speak to the nation. what do you hear that the president will be talking about in that all office address? guest: clearly, this has become a crisis for his administration. i think he will try to provide some more direct hands-on leadership on the issue as well as ratcheting up the pressure on the be paid with the escrow account that you were referring to. host: alex leary covering this story, thank you for being with us this morning. we are asking you what this oil disaster means for the future of u.s. energy policy. here is portland oregon, denise on our democrats blind. caller: i don't understand all the details, but i have learned that the biggest problem of this oil spill is that the government seemed indebted to the industry that they cannot get anything done. they are so entrenched with big business. that is the biggest reason i have le

host: carol is joining us from pensacola, florida. you for being with us early on a sunday morning. >> today on "washington journal," the president of the national association of public affairs network, discusses the importance of networks. ambassador negroponte talks about u.s. security. michael tomasky, american editor at large for "the guardian" of london examines the liberal and democratic -- liberal wings of the ddmocratic party's reagan ryan crocker discusses the recent sanctions against iran. that is live at 7:00 a.m. eassern on c-span. >> thursday, vp's c.e.o. tony headword is as it -- tony a word is scheduled to testify on the hill -- tony hayward is schedulld to testify on the hill. that is live at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span 3 and c-span radio. >> a discussion now on the future of the tea party movement. you will hear remarks from journalists and republican strategist on whether the party can sustain itself passed the 2010 election. this is about two hours. i think were goi started. ister >> i think we are going to get sta

. >> woodruff: tar balls began washing up at pensacola beach and elsewhere. governor charlie crist: >> the news this morning to hear that there is oil there is one of the most disturbing things that we could imagine. so, obviously, there must have been a shift in the current and the wind over the night. so we're not happy about that. >> woodruff: alabama governor bob riley had a complaint of his own-- that locals, put out of work by the spill, are not being hired to help clean it up. >> every person i saw tending boom was from the state of maine. now that just defies logic. and again, we have had assurances from everyone involved that that's about to change. >> woodruff: meanwhile, scientists confirmed today that at least two giant underwater plumes of oil have accumulated in the gulf. last weekend, b.p.'s c.e.o., tony hayward, denied such plumes existed. today, hayward faced a different challenge-- reassuring b.p. investors. in a conference call, he said the firm had sufficient cash reserves to meet its obligations, and he pledged to restore both the gulf co

parts of pensacola beach, florida, were closed for a second day and crude drifted into the mississippi sound as well. meanwhile, a potential storm was brewing in the western caribbean sea. coast guard admiral thad allen said it could force a-- >> about 120 hours out of the onset of gale -force winds we will start to redough ploy the equipment from the well site and to safe venues so they can come in after the storm to reestablish production or take part in rescue activities. >> sreenivasan: at the same time b.p. said it is on target to complete a relief well by mid-august. that operation is designed to plug the damaged well and cut off the oil flow. wall street had a mixed day. a number of stocks fell after news the economy did not grow as fast in the first quarter as first believed. the dow jones lost nearly nine points to close at 10143 but the nasdaq rose six points to close at 2223. bank stocks led the nasdaq again rising on signs financial regulation reformtz will cut profits less than first feared." the kellogg company is recalling 28 million boxes of cereal, including apple jack

the news came amid reports that pools of heavy oil hit miles of pensacola beach in florida overnight and there was more on that federal judge's ruling that a six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling went too far. at a senate hearing, interior secretary ken salazar said the obama administration still plans to appeal but he said he'll issue a new order to address the judge's concern. >> it is important that this moratorium stay in place until we can assure that deep water drilling can be done in a safe way. >> reporter: and steny hoyer wrote to the president seek a summit with east coast governors and local officials, citing fears oil from the gulf spill eventually could reach the atlantic ocean and move north. >> the federal reserve will hold interest rates at record lows. policy makers pledged today to keep them there for an extended period. they cited corporates about the effects of europe's debt crisis. the fed statement on europe undercut with any moment oum wall street .the dow jones gained just under five points to close at 10298. the nasdaq fell seven points to close at 2254.

carl writing for a pensacola newspaper joins us on the phone this morning. when the president travels to your region, this is his fourth to the gulf coast, but first time since the oil spill to florida, alabama, and mississippi. what will he see? >> lots of anxiety. many people hoping -- we have beautiful beaches here, easily among the most beautiful and well. it is pure, white sand. the picture of the oil coming ashore is very ugly. you have pretty much a beach economy here that will be brought to an abrupt standstill. host: we saw some of the pictures over the weekend as the oil now in the form of large balls, once it hits the sand begins to melt on the white sand you just referred to. guest: yes, we have heard various things, including that once it hits the sand is fairly easy to clean up. the problem is that once the weather hits, it just keeps coming. once you are inside the bay have been active in oyster fishery, on the east bay on the northern part, and we have a lot of mullet shrimp in the bay, so we're very concerned if it gets inside itbay. host: w

the emergency operations center in pensacola was not notified. this all occurred yesterday. the coast guard is doing a great job, but they are stretched to the limit. those guys are working 24 hours. they barely have time enough to sleep, and all the more calls for command and control structure so that mistakes like this don't keep happening. our local and state officials, as well as their senator, are not only bewildered, but we are livid that the command and control is not there so that communication is not coming to the state and local government. it reminds me of some of the things i heard another saying in his experiences over the past several weeks as he was talking about the oil and that orange mousse coming in on the wetlands in louisiana, and they were not blessed because the winds took the fresh oil to the louisiana wetlands. the winds blessed up at least for a while because it kept it to the west, but now it's moving to the east and the northeast. and when the winds shift again, mr. chairman, and takes it to the south, and it against into the loop current, it's go

host: what is the long-term impact that yoo will be seeing in pensacola and along the coast? guest: we have just been recovering from hurricane ivan. this seemed like the first season that it really turned out. we have some new hotels open. everyone seemed to be aving a good situation. restaurants and hotels were to a halt. it is haad to overstate it. it just kills everything. tourists do not come to the beach to see oil on it. it issreally bad. it is like putting on the brakes. host: secretary ken salazar, what job do you think he is not doing as secretary, and more specifically, mms, which has gone through a transformation since the spill? >> obviously, they have done an awful jjb, mmss of course, it was their job to prevent this, and i think that was the federal government's role. i do know -- it is going to have to be b.p. if there is something we're disappointed in, there is the response of b.p., and the coast it seems to be so strrnge. it just seems to be lacking. for instance, for the oil approaching, we would like them to be doing something before it gets to the edges

host of pensacola, florida. -- host: pensacola, florida.aller: i keep hearing you talking about the tripling of the budget under obama over 10 years, but bush and reagan also tripled the national debt. every time you get into office you do the exact same thing. how does that make it anything but hypocrisy? guest: number one, the president himself cannot spend a dime without the approval of congress. i am saying that the president has proposed a budget that triples the national debt. what you are alluding to our democratic congresses that voted to spend money. i was not always happy with the way that that republicans spend money. i have fought my own speaker and leadership. i was not successful. i think that people view them as the party of fiscal responsibility and they did not live up to the mantle. different leadership, differed members are thoroughly committed to making sure that the federal budget does not break the family budget. it is very significant that this congress has again taken the deficit and increase it tenfold. right now we

the impact is from western mississippi over towards pensacola. the oil will generally start to move north and slightly east. the area we are concerned about is from the mississippi-louisiana line to port st. joe in florida. in regards to that we have a lot of people out doing clean up operations. i want to talk about two different things. the first is our vessel opportunity system. local boatmen and boat owners can register their boat to do work on the water. it can be anything from deploying boom to inspecting boom to seeing if it is damaged to reporting. yesterday we hit one of our best days since we started this response. we had a total of 443 vessels of opportunity working around alabama. i will give you a sense of where they are at. 1 vessels operating out of dolphin island. 142 vessels and 143 from home port marinas over in baldwin county. and 3 vessels from fair hope. we are trying to optimize local knowledge on the water, what these folks know, their expertise and talent. the second thing is our qualified community responder program. we s

host: pensacola, florida. stella on the democratic line caller: i was thinking about submarines. can they get a special submarine to go down 5,000 feet and attach the equipment they need on the oil well? man cannot go down there, so maybe a submarine could take the equipment down. guest: that is exactly what they are doing, they are using unmanned vehicles to attach the new collection device. everything you saw in the top kill the effort, everything was done by unmanned vehicles. i am told the pressure down there is 21,000 pounds per square inch. it is an enormous amount of pressure, right at the freezing point. something that has not been mentioned -- for those people who are trying to solve this problem, they are risking their lives to solve this problem. if there is another blow uout, lives. i am thankful for that, but i am regretful that this happened in the first place. host: a comment from a third- party -- guest: as you know, the supreme court is the supreme court. they have lifetime jobs. it would not be the first time i have been disappointed in the supreme court decisio

it is all the way from western mississippi to pensacola. it is starting to move north and slightly east. we're concerned from the mississippi and louisiana line all the way over to florida. in regards to that, we have a lot of people out doing clean-up operations on the beach, skimming off shore. i want to talk about a couple of things that will be of interest to the local community. we have a vessel opportunity system where local boatmen and boat owners can come and register their votes to do work on the water, anything from -- boats to do work on the water, anything from inspecting booms, observing oil concentration, anything that will help our response. yesterday, we had a total of 443 vessels of opportunity working around alabama. i want to give you a sense of where they were at. daulphins out of island. 23 vessels from fairhope. we're trying to optimize the local knowledge, expertise, and talent. i would also like to talk about are qualified community and responder program -- our qualified community responder program. what we're trying

pensacola is first on the democrats' line. curtis, go ahead. caller: i would like to make a request that next time you have a republican or democratic person that is in the house or the senate, ask tm when they are going to put a bill up for term limits and also put the social security money in the social security account and not the general account. i would appreciate that. host: we will be talking about congressional issues wh david drucker later this morning. what about the helen thomas stored? caller: what happened to freedom of speech? just because the majority may be does not agree, she was just saying what she thought for felts i may not particularly agree with our but why is it whenever somebody says something you don't like or agree with, you want to get them -- what is the word -- terminated or fired. if we did that, i don't think anybody would be working. host: a republican view from west river, maryland. joe, go ahead. caller: i appreciate the opportunity to let everyone know th helen thos has always been a racist biggest homophobe

we are watching and the oil is coming our way it has hit pensacola and it will get to savannah and goast coast. can to call the president and give him some great ideas on what to do? why can't somebody that has great ideas show up and get the federal government to do the right thing. bp does not know what to do. bp, shell, chevron, exxon, but then come together and do what is right. work together for the good of the people. you only need to get together for this one time. you all have the money. we don't have the money so we are watching. there should be some skimming done some work. there should be boats out there. why haven't other companies showed up with their boats? eventually, this will affect all of us, not just the gulf coast, not just the cost of savannah. it will go up and eventually it will have ever won financially. guest: the point is very clear. there is skimming taking place but it is with small shrimp boats. they are not designed to do is pretend with that they are missing a lot of the oil. my view is that we have to have a major operation. it is sucking it out of the

many tourists see the beaches around pensacola and there are canceling their trips. bookings are down. this is a busy season heading into the fourth of july. also, our fishermen. they have had to close about one-third of the gulf to fishermen. many of our fishermen cannot go on into deep water to catch. even though we do not have oil on our shores, we are suffering a severe economic impact. we were just coming of of the recession. we also had the coldest winter in decade, and now this. it is a disaster for our hard- working folks. host: what do you think of the agreement for bp's victims' fund, entered the people of florida and be able to access that money? >guest: it is a step in the right direction. there was an economist that estimated the impact to be upwards of $10 billion, just for the state of florida. we have a very robust tourism industry. the fishing industry is a multi- billion dollar industry. i am skeptical that $20 billion ultimately will be fair compensation across the board. host: they have done from a local newspaper, "and bp give to universities $10

the emergency operations center in pensacola was not notified. this all occurred yesterday. the coast gua is doing a great job but they ar stretched to limit. those guys ar working 24 hours. they barely have time enough to sleep, and it all the more calls for the command and ontrol so that mistakes like this don't keepappening. our local and state officials, as their senator, are bewildered but we are livid that the commanand- so thatii not there ot cing toiois the state and local government. it reminds me of some of the things heard mr. nungasser the past several weeks, as he was talking about the oil and mousse coming in on the wetlands of louisiana. they were not lees, because the winds took the fresh oil to thee louisiana wetlands. the winds bless us for at least a while because it kept it to the west, but now it is moving to the east into the northeast. when the wind shifts agn to take it to the southand gets into the loop current, it kkys and of the east ast ofa florida n the gulf stam. you are clairvont in what needs to be examined, and just ow that you have some folk

and other executives, it is the people he has met in these four trips, the people in grand isle, pensacola, dolphin island, who for four generations have fished on these waters to make a living, who have invested their hard earned money and their sweat in building their business. those are the people that the president has been bogus: throughout this process, and he believes that is what bp should be focused on as they are discussing this. >> is there a danger president obama is over promising when he says we will make you whole and make the gulf coast even better than it was before? people's lives have been changed, and it looks like it is going to get worse of long time before it gets better. >> the response will party has committed today through an escrow accounts that starts at $20 billion to make them whole. if you are a fisherman or schrager and your likelihood had been changed because your in the heart of the season where you make almost all of your income, you will be compensated for that. we have a process that provides independence from the company that caused that disaster, with

pensacola is first on the democrats' line. curtis, go ahead. caller: i would like to make a request that next time you have a republican or democratic person that is in the house or the senate, ask them when they are going to put a bill up for term limits and also put the social security money in the social security account and not the general account. i would appreciate that. host: we will be talking about congressional issues with david drucker later this morning. what about the helen thomas stored? caller: what happened to freedom of speech? just because the majority may be does not agree, she was just saying what she thought for felts. i may not particularly agree with our but why is it whenever somebody says something you don't like or agree with, you want to get them -- what is the word -- terminated or fired. if we did that, i don't think anybody would be working. host: a republican view from west river, maryland. joe, go ahead. caller: i appreciate the opportunity to let everyone know that helen thomas has always been a racist biggest h

it is all the way from western mississippi to pensacola. it is starting to move north and slightly east. thee concerned from mississippi and louisiana line all the way over to florida. in regards to that, we have a lot of people out doing clean- up operations on the beach, skimming off shore. i want to talk about a couple of things that will be of interest to the local community. we have a vessel opportunity system where local boatmen and boat owners can come and register their boats to do work on the water, anything from inspecting booms, observing oil concentration, anything that will help our response. yesterday, we had a total of 443 vessels of opportunity working around alabama. i want to give you a sense of where they were at. 61 vessels out of daulphin island. 74 out of dog river. 142 from bayou lebatre. 23 vessels from fairhope. we're trying to optimize the local knowledge, expertise, and talent. i would also like to talk about our qualified community responder program. what we're trying to do is find unemployed individuals that wou

pensacola, florida. thomas on the republican line. caer: i'm a little surprised becoming so thin kins not all, just wanted to call as an opportunity topic before you. got it. i strongly disagree with that caller. is one ofearly this the worst catastrophes to happen states of america. know where this caller from, but down here nightmare. i actually appreciate c-span with a number of guests think this is the issue. that, you ask what is the concern. thing happened, the is jobs and the economy. anybody with any sense can look around and see the sovereign debt of around the world, re ome, deficits, 18% real unemployment. who hasad any longevity on earth knows this is sustainable and obama does not seem up to the job. host: let us hereext from democrat from portland, maine. what tops yo list of concerns? got the same concerns gulf.oil spill in the what it is stunning to me is to see the gulf states, which he been extremely republican, often right, me of the anti-environmental politics nation, now suddenly throwing their arms up in the d be

have oil on them but are open with swimming war make -- warnings includes gulf shores, alabama, pensacola, dune allen a beach in florida -- all the others are open. on independent line, dale. call. : thank you for taking my i called in to confuse the issue with some truth. you have people calling in saying it was israel behind 9/11, and this is why we went into iraq because israel -- we went into afghanistan, because of israel. well, i'm not a fan of israel, but we did not go into iraq and afghanistan for israel. host: should we get out of afghanistan? caller: we went into their court china. if you google -- we went into it for china. if you google the oil contracts for iraq, who got the lion's share of the contracts? host: do you think we should get out of afghanistan? caller: it is not a yes or no situation. i think we should get out of afghanistan with -- but then, i think, how could we leave those people at the mercy of the taliban. host: the last call comes from nicholas on our active duty line in oregon. go ahead. caller: yes, hi. thank you for that last call from florence -- host:

the emergency operations center in pensacola was not notified. this all occurred yesterday. the coast guard is doing a great job but they are stretched to the limit. those guys are working 24 hours. they barely have time enough to sleep, and it all the more calls for the command and ontrol structure so that mistakes like this don't keep happening. our local and state officials, as well as their senator, are not only bewildered but we are livid that the command-and- control ii not there so that communication is not coming to the state and local government. it reminds me of some of the things i heard mr. nungasser the past several weeks, as he was talking about the oil and that orange mousse coming in on the wetlands of louisiana. they were not lees, because the winds took the fresh oil to thee louisiana wetlands. the winds blessed us for at least a while because it kept it to the west, but now it is moving to the east into the northeast. when the wind shifts again to take it to the south, and it gets into the loop current, it kkys and of the east coast of florida n the gulf s

pensacola, florida. thomas on the republican line. caller: i'm a little surprised c-span is becoming so thin skins host: not all, just wanted to use the call as an opportunity to put the topic before you. caller: i got it. i strongly disagree with that caller. i think clearly this is one of the worst catastrophes to happen to the united states of america. i don't know where this caller is calling from, but down here it is a nightmare. i actually appreciate c-span covering this with a number of guests. i think this is the issue. having said that, you ask what is the concern. until this thing happened, the concern clearly is jobs and the economy. anybody with any sense can look around and see the sovereign debt of around the world, here at home, deficits, 18% real unemployment. anybody who has had any longevity on earth knows this is not sustainable and obama does not seem up to the job. host: let us here next from john, a democrat from portland, maine. what tops your list of concerns? caller: i got the same concerns about the oil spill

pensacola, florida. tristan, democrats landed caller: i was calling in regards to the gentleman who was on earlier. i don't want to butcher his name. i will call the mr. k -- call him mr. k. the drug policy person. i believe your opening question was what does he feel the root cause is to the drug epidemic problem. i don't ever recall him really fully addressing it. and i think because what we need and there is someone from a behavioral science background in his position that can really address the social issues and the people's lives, they're up -- upbringing, the daily things they go through, the reason why they use drugs. and as far as -- because, you know, he is from law enforcement background, so i think his whole approach from that posture. i think someone from the behavioral science from would be good. one more quick point. as far as prescription drugs go, i remember reading an article and "usa today, what i believe from 2004, some of the highest paid ceo's when we have those issues, and i believe

if you have the gorgeous white sand beaches in pensacola, or in alabama, mississippi, or florida. tar balls on the beach this nasty sludge coming into the beach is going to bicy and yucky and nasty if you get it on your feet, you have to clean it up with alcohol, it can burn you, tear you up. but if that come into the marsh, it can kill, will kill, plant life, animal life, and ocean life. so when the governor of louisiana, who was so unfairly criticized here tonight by the opposition, if -- when the governor said, look, guys, at least authorize some dredging to put some sand barriers between us and -- between our marsh and that -- that terrible spill that's headed our direction, and yet, we were -- it wasn't until the 27th of may that the federal government granted louisiana partial permission to dredge sand up to build sort of an island-type barrier so maybe that oil would hit the sand and not come in where all the plants and wildlife and the sea life lives and thrives and functions. but that was only 27 days too late. the 28th of may, the president went down and looked at the gu

let's begin with pensacola, fla. good morning, thomas. host: -- caller: i am surprised that c-span is becoming so thin skinned. host: not thin skinned at all. caller: i strongly disagree with that caller. this is one of the worst catastrophes to happen to the united states of america in our history. . . nightmare. i actually appreciate-span covering this with a number of guts. i think this is the issue. having said tt, you ask what is the concern. until this thing happened, the concern clearly is jobs and the economy. anybody with any sense can look ound and see the sovereign debt of arou the world, here ate, deficits, 18% real unemployment. anybody who has had any longevity on earthnows this is not sustainable and obama ds not seem up to the job. host: let us here next from john, a democrat from portland, maine. what ts your list of concerns? caller: i g the same concerns about the oil spill in the gulf. what it is stunning to mes to see the gulf stes, which have been extremely republican, oft to the far rht, some of the most anti-enviro

quote from donald waters, commercial fisherman who fishes for red snapper and king mackerel out of pensacola, florida. this is a devastating ghost lurking in the shadows that will change our whole lives, closed quote. so what we have today is a resolution by the housthat we need to adopt policies a move forward in effos to reduce this evil that is now lurking in the oceans of ocean acidification. we know what the culprit is. it's carbon dioxide. we now what the solution is, clean energy technology, that we can embrace to try to reduce this pollution. and we know the ultimate outcome if we do not act which is that our grandkids are not going to have an ocean as we know them. and personally i can tell you it's already hit my state. our oyster production now in the state of washington has been severely dampened probably because of ocean acidification that prevents the oyster larva from surviving. we didn't know this for an absolute certainty yet, but this is the kind of thing that we're starting to see happen. we're better than this. wenow what the oceans mean to us. and we do not intend to lea