there's a bunch of us that study us media history and you look back over forty years since the pentagon papers where the new york times another paper said on a national security issue no our agency is to the public we're going to stand up against the government you look from pentagon papers to today and you see forty years of these big institutions like the new york times just getting cozier and cozier and cozier and one of the classic examples i mentioned was sitting on a story for more than a year that the bush administration was engaging in warrantless wiretapping on americans and holding out till after the two thousand and four election that's pretty telling and and asking for federal government direction on what wiki leaks material at the time should publish or not publish things are getting worse at the new york times i don't expect them to turn it around because of this incident really interesting jeff thank you so much for coming on the show appreciate it that was jeff collins journalism professor at ethical college and a media critic. and that's going to do it for this hour of the new

so many people fear that this is just another blow the government just does not want another pentagon papers weekly's has been terribly embarrassing and the world has now you know is now privy to a lot of the operational a lot of the things that are happening behind the scenes when it comes to the u.s. government when it comes to foreign policy in the u.s. government from their prosecutions of several whistleblowers here in the government and they're supposed persecution of june a songe a lot of journalists really really fear that this is going to put a halt to investigative journalism and speaking of that ramona could you talk about you know his supporters and particularly in journalism what they say about the way songe has affected journalism today. you know absolutely well we go back to what michael moore was discussing about exposing secrets now in the run up to the iraq war it seems like many of the biggest news organizations in the world were clearly in support of the iraq war not questioning the united states or the united or the u.k. government regarding their evidence of mass destru

now, if anyone remembers back to the pentagon papers case 40 years ago and the thought of could the governmentation of the book? the legal standard is just too high. the fact is is the book's been out. and obviously media has copies of it. so it would be too difficult to put the genie back in the bottle. the publisher has ratcheted this up. not only increased the print run but expedited the publication date from the 11th to the 4th. so practically speaking there's not even any time for the government to do anything. >> some people might say this is disgusting. you come back, all these other guys are on your team and they don't do this and you want to get rich and you go and put a pseudonym and write the book. other people say no, what's wrong with what he did, after all, the president gave details of what happened in the raid. it's his version where they said bin laden was reaching for a gun and that's why they shot him. the s.e.a.l. actually refutes that and said they didn't know if he was armed or not it the president said that so maybe the pentagon doesn't have a case against this guy. >> t

but i mean obama obama loves to point out the pentagon loves to point out or i should say the cia we got another one we got another one and it makes the papers and people are quite impressed i mean you know mr obama is not soft on security is he is that one of the messages do you think he's standing right now. i think that's the purpose for why he is doing it i think that's one of the purposes in. the united states the issue of whether or not democrats are considered strong on national defense and security is one of the issues that's always played well for republicans and so showing this macho image and the image of. going to stand up to kill these terrorists whoever we call terrorists is. it was i think it was being it was leaked in order to make him appear stronger and. weaker and and frankly. you know there's there's a lot of. it in relate or in opposition to invading a country you know doing as targeted ok you're saying you're saying this is a security policy on the cheap chris if i go to you in london a lot of the information that was leaked i guess was leaked to you guys because reading your work is quite fascinating is this you know w

system in asia a pentagon official pointed at a perceived threat from north korea as the main justification political activist and head of the new patriotic alliance for not says that's a paper thin excuse. clearly that your head is being exaggerated by the united states but we can see beyond the rhetorical that the real target here is china and the u.s. wants to justify rebalancing most of its troops towards the region the so-called threats emanating from china are highly suspicious questionable and are in fact just the u.s. can justify sending more troops and ships here in in this region only intended to provide more just occasion for the permanent an expanded new military presence in our region that's another concern of ours. missile shield. to fall on arms freeze in the region or to countries like china and north korea in the evening at the her stands in competing with the united states in the growing more war machines. throughout the show in the that happens the bigger threat to peace over at our website are to doubt calm you can find any stories you may have missed on the air here's a taste of some other stories that are on line right now out. of a rebirth of protests

right and -- c-span: i read in the paper in the post today that they quoted -- i'm need to get his name right. >> he is a spokesman. there are two spokespeople at the pentagon he says he does not vote. for a reason. it keeps him tremendously independent and he doesn't have to worry about the politics of it. what is sure on attitude when you're in the military? did you vote? >> guest: yeah i voted and if you ever talk to military individuals they are very strong-willed and we motivated. now you know that is you in a private capacity which introduces another sort of topic that is interesting which is osha media has allowed you know, active-duty servicemembers to express political views that i think across the line. if i'm a blogger, a military blogger i can say things about the commander in chief that are kind of almost violations of the usmc j.. under the auspices you can say it's just me in a private capacity so that is unclear and i was uncomfortable during the last election, presidential election the degree to which people were polarized politically and overtly so, because my sense is an academy grad and i taught at the academy and served and now involved