water and they certainly did not pass on the pentagon papers i mean a martian pose. you know reputation and histories is very good with respect to these type of stories because you don't want to get blown away by someone who comes in and says you publish that you're going to damage nasa security because you know it never turns out. there you go and see goodell to think carefully that the book is fighting for the press the inside story of the pentagon papers and other battles thanks so much for being with us tonight so. here tara welcome to see this and other conversations the great minds go to conversations great minds about. this. kind of. money and i'm. just. wealthy british. market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger or a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into kinds of reports . welcome to nice conversations with great minds with on a poor her own is known for her powerful no nonsense approach to problem solving and strategy development in such diverse fields as business education health and

water and they certainly did not pass the pentagon papers i mean in washington post . you know reputation and histories is very good with respect to these type of stories because you don't want to get blown away by someone who comes in and says you publish that you're going to damage nasa security because you know it never turns out she do there you go and see goodell to think carefully the book is fighting for the press the inside story of the pentagon papers and other bad. thanks so much for being with us tonight sir. here entirely welcome thank you to see this and other conversations the great minds go to conversations great minds. and that's the way it is the night friday some are thirteen twenty thirty don't forget mark he begins with you get out there get active tag your. political your cultural marginalized. polish face i think you know. a pleasure to have you with us here on t.v. today i'm researcher. and. i would rather ask questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right her

good ale was vice chair and general counsel for the new york times published the pentagon papers and led the paper's legal team in its fight against the nixon administration he's often called the father of reporter's privilege means to this day a powerful advocate for the freedom of the press in addition to his legal work goodale as taught at yale and why you fordham university his new book fighting for the press the inside story of the pentagon papers and other battles is a must read for anyone who wants an in-depth look at one of the most famous supreme court cases of the past forty years james goodale joins us now from our new york studios. welcome thank you for being with us or live thank you for having me so let's start with you before we get to the case i'm wondering if you were general counsel for the new york times and a vice president as i recall of that well vice chairman let's go. charleroi ok thank you you all the better. what what brought you to that what made you interested in newspapers in the first amendment and provoked you to brought you to be the guy who was arguin

well here's the way to think about the pentagon papers case without turning off your non lawyers or you know it's very simple what nixon tried to do is he tried to censor the new york times and later the washington post how did he try to censor them the sense of them by going into court and getting an order that you can't print you know it's. simple simple censorship what's interesting about it was the only time in american history that ever happened. during a bet it's not going to happen. well now use the fancy term it's actually called prior restraint when i first heard that term when i worked with went to the new york times i don't know what the heck admit it but it just means it just means censorship and so it's a case for the ages because the only time we have the case and the press one the government lost and the tests or the rule of law or whatever you want to call it the supreme court laid down is very hard to meet almost virtually impossible which means that i don't think it's going to ever happen again and i don't think that caseload would be overruled it's fast i mean if you

history change see good was vice chair and general counsel for the new york times published the pentagon papers and led the paper's legal team in its fight against the nixon administration he's often called the father of reporter's privilege remains to this day a powerful advocate for the freedom of the press in addition to his legal work goodale as taught at yale and why you fordham university his new book fighting for the press the inside story of the pentagon papers and other by.

and there i was i was there when we received the pentagon papers so i became intimately involved in the initial decisions to decide whether to publish the papers and if so what was going to happen with the nixon administration and so i went into doing that and was in all of the closed door hearings with the judges in all we do know is the supreme court i was one of the few lawyers that was deeply involved in that all the way to the end. from there i went to bally's office and i was there when he was retained to represent james mccord in the watergate burglary so i ended up finding out about what was exactly going on what caused the watergate burglary what was behind the watergate burglary and because of that i laughed and went back to harvard to go to divinity school af. having finished harvard college in sixty seven harvard law school and seventy in one hundred seventy three i went back to harvard divinity school. studied the the origins of natural law and the relationship of natural law to the constitution of united states and so that's how i ended up in this particular specialized ar

has been done before with the pentagon papers and others. liberties were being abused as i think they were and they are there are ways to get the information out without this incredible release of information. charles: the exact opposite, if you would have gone a traditional route, there would be interference by the government we would never know the secrets we know now. stuart: i have talked to intelligence officials and information that has gotten out has very dangerously jeopardized some missions that we have in this world and some of those missions my son is on. >> you can equate it with the pentagon papers, daniel els bird took a different route than ed snowden did. ed snowden ran to foreign countries and basically told them what it was about. charles: is there anything good that has come out of this? >> yes. the danger putting lives at risk from fall the good. the good is we know the government was doing stuff it should not have been doing. the bad is u.s. lives have been -- charles: i would love to see him make a stand here. liz: abou

larry joining me now is daniel ellsberg in one nine hundred seventy one he leaked the top secret pentagon papers detailing two decades of united states policy in vietnam he's been very outspoken in support of edward snowden and wiki leaks and he joins us from berkeley california and by the way daniel you'll be interested to know that ron paul was our guest right before you and in praising miss the snowden and mr manning and we gave each he singled you out as the forerunner of all of this as a true american hero you have a reaction to that i do ron paul has has taken several occasions to praise what i did in congress and i really appreciate it it's really i have to say very unusual phil it gives me a warm feeling toward him what do you make of so we got sentence penned pending when when this airs it'll be rendered already on private manning on mr snowden in russia on we give leads what's your overview of this whole thing well i think there's no better way for americans to have a real sense of where we've arrived than to do what i did a few weeks ago which was to rere into the movie enemy of the s

you know, remember the pentagon papers? remember daniel ellsberg? he a hero? he not? that kind of controversy and this is the same valley. >> absolutely right. let's take a short break, barbara. we'll come back and talk about pope francis, certainly one of my people of the year as a catholic and other celebrities, kim kardashian and kanye west, a rare double there. let's discuss that after the break. the giggles. tylenol cold® helps relieve your worst cold and flu symptoms. but for everything we do, we know you do so much more. tylenol cold®. >>> you know you're a star when everybody talks about your hair. >> that was so bizarre. people were what was the weirdest thing about this? seeing my haircut on the news. >> were you a different person? >> i better be. i don't want to be the same person. i think everything happens for a reason, for a purpose. >> we start with faith first and drop down to family. >> wow. >> then we shoot ducks. [ laughter ] >> barbara walters reveals the ten most fascinating people of the year and back with me now. i want to talk about pope franc

you know, remember the pentagon papers? remember daniel ellsberg? he a hero? he not? that kind of controversy and this is the same valley. >> absolutely right. let's take a short break, barbara. we'll come back and talk about pope francis, certainly one of my people of the year as a catholic and other celebritiece kim kardashian and kanye west, a rare double there. let's discuss that after the break. [ female announcer ] it's time for the annual shareholders meeting. ♪ there'll be the usual presentations on research. and development. some new members of the team will be introduced. the chairman emeritus will distribute his usual wisdom. and you? well, you're the chief life officer. you just need the right professional to help you take charge. ♪ to help you take charge. ♪ you know, ronny... folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. and how happy are they jimmy? i'd say happier than a bodybuilder directing traffic. he does look happy. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. does your m

that i've been listened to for a very long time that you see outrage that the cat in during the pentagon papers there was a great outcry outrage. but what the government was doing. my pri sch known here not sheen i'm outraged it's going to lead any change. i think the thing is enough outrage to lead to some change a thing when obama says we gotta have tighter rules and to keep a close released on these guys and i think is probably true because what happens with any intelligence agents and these if they keep getting more and more and more because they can never have enough information and entry is eight thousand zero lead to possible sees as its last fourteen months more to come in the show. stay with us who wanted to spend. i was reporters in two thousand thirty one side chapel jim johnson's only to reports the rebel forces in the room to that is asked of course quite right too high. well the new nationalist in trials to violence against women in india. we're in the end of two thousand thirty. really two thousand thirty two biggest news stories. but to go. look much like john hughes remote reli

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right after that, you have the pentagon papers controversy and the things start to get out of hand.o that moment in the summer of 1971 is a very sweet moment for the family. >> one other event, this is not matched to this day, the largest event thrown at the white house was the nixon's tribute to the vietnam prisoners of war. can you talk about the significance of that? the library just celebrated the anniversary of it this year. >> well, i think that part of the story of pat nixon in the white house is a story of the pressures on the family because of the country's reaction to the president's vietnam policy. whatever you think of the president's vietnam policy, i think it's hard to dispute the fact that the country's reaction had a very, very strong effect on the nixon family. and pat in particular was affected by it. one of the reasons the president pressured her to leave on the solo trips was to pick up her morale. and the result in the agreement in january of 1973 to end the american participation in the war in southeast asia, the white house wanted to celebrate this achievement

since the pentagon papers case in 1972 it is inconceivable that any american government would get prior restraint of a publication of this material. that reassurance doesn't exist in this country. indeed, we were directly threatened with prior restraint by the cabinet secretary and so i didn't seek the advice of a da-notice on that story. i have engaged with air vice-marshal vallance since. he would confirm we have been in touch since. there was to some extent a misunderstanding which he said extended to the prime minister. i think there was misunderstanding by the da-notice committee because the prime minister talked about threatening people with a da-notice is. that's not actually how it works. air vice-marshal vallance says the misunderstanding is that he would've kept the material confidential from the government. so we have, in fact, collaborated with him since he's been at "the guardian" to talk to all of our reporters. >> did he give you any feedback as to whether what you are publishing posed a risk life or not? >> he was quite explicit that nothing we have seen contravened nati

time to lay back the power of the arabic to the paper we think the prime minister thank you thing a challenge not only from the people here in the pentagon have been the same thing with them you've got to remember them thank you and that was our t. sarah firth reporting from the streets of istanbul. next week israel is expected to announce plans to build fourteen hundred new homes in jewish settlement areas in the west bank on thursday night out of fear that such a move could derail the peace process in the region palestinian president mahmoud abbas called on the united states to dissuade israel from going through with these new settlements according to a palestinian negotiator abbas asked the u.s. envoy for quote u.s. intervention to stop the israeli government from issuing new settlement decisions in order to save the peace process despite recent setbacks in the peace process one man believes a solution is within sight when he is a palestinian entrepreneur and businessman he's perhaps best known for his history as a negotiator in the peace talks between the u.s. israel and palestine palestine excuse me he's over eighty years old but he

make the paper that's number one common faith and it's not the power here but the best thing we've seen the prime minister face thing a challenge not only from the people here in the pentagon may be the same thing with the new government in fact there was sarah firth reporting from the streets of istanbul. it's been months since the u.s. and russia and other world powers reached a deal to remove the syrian government's chemical weapons the deal helped avoid a potential u.s. strike in syria for the latest on that or teaser in a glue show tells us more. we can see the first hurdle or rather task at hand which is destroying the facilities where the chemical weapons were stored and produced and then gathering all the chemicals together that that stage has been completed now we are at the stage two and that is the transportation of all chemicals to the port of latakia and now the there is a deadline and that was december thirty first but again they shoot for broad vision of chemical weapons and saying that deadline is most likely not to be because you don't have to transport the chemicals the route they have to go via the route from damascus to a talkie which of unfortunately i

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paper. hamid karzai insists it has to be him. as a result we have stalemate. >> al jazeera's paul brennan live in brussels. thank you. >> the u.s. suspended shipments out v afghanistan through pakistan. the pentagonid tuesday that it's part of a plan to withdraw troops from afghanistan by the end of next year. the broader shutdown comes amid protests over u.s. drone strikes in pakistan. trucks must take outer routes through central asia - it will take time and cost more. >> the united nations a using drones, for the first time the u.n. confirms its peacekeepers are sending unmanned craft. it monitors the areas in the dong. >> it is a first, taking to the skies. the u.n. has fleets of white painted suvs. now the first united nations unmanned aerial aircraft more commonly known as a drone. unlike those of many militaries and the u.s., it's iquipped only with a camera, not armed with missiles. after years of bloodshed the idea is it to monitor a fragile peace deal, a large area, much remote jungle terrain. >> this is something we never had. in many armies or organizations. we had to get it to allow our people to do a better job. the current president of the u.n. security council, the french ambassad