yeah it works so well i wonder if the state department pentagon also believe that pouring gasoline on the campfire is the best way to prevent forest fires yes my friends this is the backward logic that is your pentagon and state department even smokey the bear agrees with me almost makes you wonder if the new cold war hawks here in washington are looking to inflame ukraine right before the russian presidential elections in the spring of twenty years but hey maybe i'm just a conspiracy theorist but i don't know call me crazy i do know it means we definitely need to start watching the hawks. but that's. the bottom. like you that i got. this. week so. welcome everyone watching the i robot and. just occasionally paranoid occasionally paranoid like when i hear that we're sending arms and weapons into places the there's a little bit of conflict is a little little bit a little bit you know and here's the thing that really got me about this taboo is that we haven't heard a peep out of ukraine for a while the mainstream media has covered any of these things if they're so worried about how terr

host: president trump is using the bellicose rhetoric and the actual pentagon, state department is using a more conventional route. guest: as far as we can tell. a lot of this is behind the scenes. are a number of reports that came out towards the end of signaling there's behind the scenes tracks going , the open lines of communication between the north korea and u.s. right now. host: our final call for the is half-hour comes from pb. a democrat. caller: is kim jong-un the same guy that dennis rodman went to see? guest: he is. caller: can't donald trump go to see him? idea. it is certainly an i don't think we will see a u.s. president travel to north korea anytime soon. secretary tillerson was in the same area as his north korean counterpart recently. there was some sort of communication between the two sides when they got together. we will certainly see what happens. , if northl question korea did launch an attack from is the u.s. prepared to defend itself? guest: it will certainly try. the question of ballistic missile defense is a long-standing one. earlier this year, the u.s. and ita

work so well i wonder if the state department pentagon also believe that pouring gasoline on the campfire is the best way to prevent forest fires yes my friends this is the backward logic that is your pentagon and state department even smokey the bear agrees with me almost makes you wonder if the new.

joining me now is cory shockey, former pentagon state department and national security security councilgeorge w. bush, now at stanford university hoover institution. i guess under george w. bush you didn't have to worry about the president tweeting and undercutting whatever the secretary of state was saying. it is now a real issue. >> it is a real issue. and not just for the secretary of state. i do think one of the real problems the trump administration is having is consistency and continuity of message, which, of course, matters an enormous amount. vice president pence is in eastern europe, what used to be known as eastern europe, this week, he was in georgia, talk ing about consistency of policy, and it is a very hard sell. >> it is a hard sell because he is saying what you would expect the president to be saying about vladimir putin, yet the president signed the sanctions bill today, has had no comment at all about putin's saying that we had to remove 755 people from the u.s. embassy workforce in russia. that is a very large and disproportional cut as you would know better than i, a

pentagon, state department, intelligence agencies and just so we're all clear chief's coates, rogers,nd interfering in the u.s. presidential election. with disinformation, hacks, and leaks. putin and is now armed conflict in eastern ukraine. but all that said in trump's view, bad relations with putin. this is not even getting to adversaries who have been murdered or the russian-made missiles. to our knowledge, while president trump from don lemon to the cast of hamilton. he has never had any word about vladimir putin. the president's response was this -- >> a lot of killers. we have a americans. the u.s. laying no blame of the former kgb official. he tweeted last night, quote, and i should say clear attempt humiliating way. on facebook, maybe i'd have said this. the president is not happy about the new sanctions and he could not not sign the bill. primarily is another way to knock trump down a peg. new steps are to come, and they will ultimately aim. you know, give the kremlin credit able to exert any control the way they would like. the russians seem to have figured something out. me

nonetheless, state department spokesperson heather newart said yesterday that the white house, pentagonll speak with one voice relating to north korea. since becoming white house chief of staff john kelly has swiftly tried to bring order and discipline to the trump white house. one area apparently off limits? the president's twitter feed. according to the washington examiner, a series of news reports suggesting kelly wanted oversight of the trump -- of trump's twitter account made their way to the president's desk. a source told the examiner that president trump was pissed when he read kelly wanted to control his twitter feed. just this week the president has sent out a series of tweets taking aim at major news organizations. senator richard bloomenthal and even senate majority leader mitch mcconnell leading many to believe kelly has not managed to curb the president's social media habits yet. >> all right. turning to the russia probe. some republicans are looking to make the most of the rift between president trump and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell after trump fired back at mc

fearing a battlefield and diplomatic disaster, the pentagon and state department shot that idea down.twitter mr. trump has argued as far back as 2011 that afghanistan was a waste of tax dollars and must money could be better spent at home. as president his ideas have been tempered. seth jones, a former defense department firm now with the rand corporation, does not expect a dramatic turnaround in afghanistan. >> it is unlikely, at least in my view, to significantly change the outcome of the war or at least to significantly increase the afghan government with its foreign allies that are going to win this one on the battlefield. >> reporter: the president will address a military audience here. just under eight years ago president obama at west point announced his new idea for afghanistan, a troop surge for 30,000 designed, it was said at the time, to end the war. anthony? >> mason: major garrett, thanks. more than 2,200 americans have given their lives in nearly 17 years of war in afghanistan. charlie d'agata is in the capital, kabul. charlie, will an increase in troops make a differenc

been in the works since the obama era anya yes the wall street journal is reporting the pentagon and state department have put forward a proposal to supply arms to the ukrainian government the journal notes if approved the transfer of anti-tank missiles and other weapons to the government would come at a time when washington and moscow's relations are particularly strained with trump having just signed especially harsh sanctions against russia into law this week so extreme they've even been denounced by the e.u. the fact trump stamp his signature on the saying underscores the unpredictable manner with which the president acts towards moscow though he's argued for improved relations in the past and cooperated with russia to reach a ceasefire in syria he's also expanded nato it's unclear whether or not the president will take a step to arm the ukrainian government considering similar plans were rejected by president obama however trump's national security adviser who will surely be in his ear h.r. mcmaster is known for taking exceptionally hawkish positions on russia trump's selection of mcmaster to re

nobody in the pentagon or state department really want it. >> the report about back channel negotiations now, how might the way he is talking affect those? >> so the level that's been reported through new york is a common one that we've used for many, many years. it can be helpful for passing messages. it is not particularly good for dealing with direct security situations. one of the things i believe we need to be doing is having much higher level direct talks, either between the chairman or his we need it be able to have trusted relationships that can be used should a conflict break out or should we get to the brink of a crisis. >> i'll look forward to having you back on the broadcast. appreciate it. in the next hour, joy reid and a panel will discuss the open yes, i did cape cod -- open question about his golf game. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ rethink your allergy pills. flonase sensimist allergy relief helps block 6 key inflammatory substances with a gentle mist. most allergy pills only block one. and 6 is greater than one. flonase sensimist. ♪ [radi♪ alarm] julie is living with metastatic breast canc

that the president gave yesterday, do you think that was signed off on by folks at the pentagon and state departmenther it was or not, it's clear that that represents some of the views inside not only the white house but the pentagon. as you heard the secretary of state says, we have to put this in context. as you said, this has been a long time coming. general clark mentioned the same thing as well. it's good that at this time we have a strong message of deterrence. at the time when the north koreans are most bell akoes, that we are making it clear we are going to defense the united states from any kind of provocation. that should not only be heard by the united states but by japan and korea and china as well. t >> general clark, james clapper said this about the north korean threat. listen to this. >> what is bothersome is we have heard this rhetoric coming out of north korea. we ignore it. certainly at the president yat lea level we ignore it. the rhetoric is not helpful. >> if that is the case, why do you think the president did it? >> i think the president is playing to a domestic audience. but

the pentagon and state department are rejecting plans to give weapons to the ukraine.f the administration frustration with russian uncooperative position. as the chairman of the joint chief of staff, meeting with chinese leaders to discuss increasing tensions between the u.s. and north korea. general joseph dunford is working to develop a relationship to reaffirm the united states commitment to its asian allies. i'm rick leventhal. back to "watters world" >> actions speak louder than words. that's the subject of tonight's waters words. north korea is trying to black mail america. how did we get here. they failed to prevent north korea from achieving its nuclear ambitions. bill clinton gave the north koreans $4 billion, oil and help them build two nuclear reactors. here's what he said at the time. >> this is a good deal for the united states. north korea will freeze and dismantle their nuclear program. the entire world will be safer as they slow the spread. >> obviously, past presidents have failed us. they testfired a missile that can hit the continental u.s. and recen

"the wall street journal" reported in the pentagon and state department have a plan.ll are in ukraine with antitank and other weapons. the development comes as ukraine battles russian backed separatists. the journal also says president trump has not been briefed on the plan. it's not known if he supports it yet. just remember signing the sanction bill. russian invaded and annexed ukraine grammy in peninsula and ordered hundreds of u.s. diplomat for moscow after congress approved those economic sanctions against russia. they approved it last week and we will see now if the president is going to sign the sanctions bill. lauren: tessa shares falling three by 5% yesterday after elon musk said the company will face manufacturing how after the launch of the test model three counties that electric carmaker will have to contend with production challenges to meet demand for this new mass-market affordable electric car. must said customers must face half a million advance reservations for the model three. tesla has spent $2 billion thus far ahead of the launch. they report quar

they have russia and china on board for now, and there are many people in the pentagon and state departmenthat are not willing to give up on the negotiated settlement. one of the props has been that they make agreements but they don't live up to them. you would need an intrusive inspection. >> china is really integral for any sort of negotiation or containment of north korea. the president tried the carrot with them early on by flattering him. they are investigating china ch trade practices, is that effective. >> no one will really ever pressure china to this degree. they don't want instability or collapse. we'll have to see if china will really do much to reign in north korea after all of this. >> former member of the national security council. guys, thank you very much. >> next, a warning about a rise in white nationalism across the country that was apparently ignored. . first, peter alexander spoke today with vice president mike pence during his trip to cl columbia. >> we talked about it very extensively yesterday. he made it very clear that we condemn all forms of hate and violence. the

stokesman pentagon and state department and whith us, global afays elise labott.ister will also be there in manila at this summit. secretary tillerson said he hasn't ruled out the possibility of speaking to the u.s., addressing speaking directly with north korean officials. is that possible? there could be a conversation there? >> it's possible, but not likely, wolf. a meeting would have to be really prepared and certain points that secretary tillerson would want to address. i think what you're going to see at this meeting is absolutely the opposite. the u.s. looking to isolate the north korean foreign minister at this meeting and try to seek suspending north korea's membership in asean. i think what secretary tillerson said was very significant the other day. you have a lot of mixed messages coming from this administration about, you know, whether there should be military action. whether there should be talking. secretary tillerson said point blank, he's ready to talk, if conditions are right. he just wants to see a sign from north korea that they're ready. >> le

and doesn't break the bank it would return forty billion dollars a year back to the pentagon leaked u.s. state department documents reveal the defector support for venezuela's opposite. in the lead up to president maduro referendum victory two leaders implicated in the failed coup of twenty zero two have been arrested and journalism are also allegedly played a role in the murder of thousands of civilians during the karakas or uprising of nine hundred eighty nine former exxon mobil c.e.o. and now u.s. secretary said rex tillerson has since brief the media of what could arguably be a war cry for regime change we are waiting all of our policy options as to what can we do to create a change of conditions were either my girl that doesn't have a future and wants to leave us on the court or we can return. the government processes back to their constitution now let's get the latest climate for gusts with senior producer people at banks ashen what expects more on sets where this day is a request reveals the u.k. government has spent almost four hundred thousand taxpayer pounds fighting environmental more cases cl

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john kirby, our cnn military and diplomatic analyst and former spokesman for both the pentagon and the state departmentcorrespondent barbara starr. barbara, what's the concern first of all over north korea's submarine activity? >> reporter: well, this is pretty unusual, wolf. they have a limited submarine capability, but in the last several weeks they've put them out to sea. they stayed a sea a bit longer than the u.s. has seen them do that in the part and appear to be trying to test on land the ability to launch a missile out of a submarine. what does that give them? well, at the end of the day, if they can do it and a submarine say out submerged hidden from the u.s., that would give the north koreans the ability to survive a u.s. first strike against them. that gives them a huge leap forward in their military capabilities. something the u.s. does not want to see happen, wolf. >> yes. another problem right there. add mirror kirby, listen to senator lindsey graham, a member of the senate armed services committee. what he said today about the possibility of a war with north korea. >> there is a military

works so well i wonder if the state department pentagon.

he was looking down and reading so maybe something had been drafted, but how much the pentagon or the state department or the national security council was involved is still something we are trying to chase down. vonnie: bill, let me play the sound from rex tillerson. we may as well listen to it first. missile korea i's capabilities is in different directions and so long is not the only place under threat. no, i never considered rerouting the current back. i do not believe there is any imminent threat. vonnie: i mean, a lot of military personnel from the u.s. in guam. a lot of people in japan are very worried. a lot of people in south korea and so on. this really affect a whole region. down?eds to calm this china has been trying with words. so has germany, in fact. plenty of countries are trying to calm this down. yet the un's sanctions revolution and the rhetoric out of the president, does not seem it seems jong un -- as if kim jong un will have to respond. bill: trump, the ministration, and rex tillerson were praising the un security council to slap $1 billion worth of sanctions on north korea, whic

because the pentagon and the state department have very much been focusing on diplomacy rather than thery remarks of president trump. we will bring you that sound later. what secretary of mattis told reporters was, and i quote, no, we are never out of diplomatic solutions. we continue to work together. the secretary of defense perhaps very much still on the diplomatic page, while the president is talking about the time is up for talking. all of this coming as also overnight the u.s. sent a bit of a message, conducting a very long planned ballistic missile defense test at sea. it was long planned, but it sent a message that the u.s. is still working on its systems to be able to shoot down north korean missiles. >> barbara starr for us at the pentagon, thank you very much. >>> want to go to houston, if we can. getting word that our brian todd is out right now with a rescue team. focusing on some stranded animals. what can you tell us? >> we just pulled a family of three and three dogs out of this house here in this neighborhood just west of houston. the family is here with us. these are t

the 2 (100) 000-0000 it is broken up like this. 10.9 from the pentagon for the purpose counter isis operations. by the state department and u.s. aid on humanitarian assistance. that goes to syrians and other impacted by the syrian. billion in u.s. aid on humanitarian assistance to and another $2.4 billion by the state department and u.s. aid to iraq, jordan, lebanon. what else should we know about the numbers? those numbers are just numbers that congress obligated d and u.s. funds for. there is additional money in the pipeline weren't you can see is the emphasis in security. he u.s. has taken an approach to combat terrorism and continues in that direction. i think it is important to know we need oversight and that publication tohe have congress have oversight and ew administration which has te tend tended to pay attention to the going and howy is effective the programs are and o help bring awareness to the american people. host: the phone numbers are on he bottom of the screen for charles johnson. we look forward to getting your calls for our guest charles john trade and al affairs managing director at the g.a.o. over

hill as well as former secretaries of state to get together the white house with all of the national security advisories, with the pentagon, with the state department and come up with a plan. come up with a policy. other than having things as sort of off the message as mike pompeo suggesting regime change about ten days ago at the aspen security conference in an interview. that, i think, is part of the reason why rex tillerson was also trying to reassure china and reassure kim jong-un that they do want to talk. first time that they emphasized the option of direct talks. >> that was really interesting. i want to bring jill and charlie in here. this is a test for the president. and a test of something he talked a lot of on the campaign trail. jill, i know you covered him on the campaign, too. he talked again and again and again what he wanted to do with china. listen. >> we don't want china continuing to rip us off. i mean, they're ripping us like nobody has ever ripped us before. >> we can't continue to allow china to -- >> we have tremendous power over china. economic power. tremendous. we don't do anything. >> that was donald trump on the campaign

, $60 million in the pentagon, $20 million at the state departmentfor use to counter russian and anti-isis propaganda. what state officials are telling me is that they're not happy with the proposals that have been sent to them from this office, the global engagement center, which is, you know, has been created to combat some of these propaganda efforts by isis and other groups around the world so they are trying to work through proposals, and what they say is secretary -- one of secretary tillerson's aides told me that they don't want to throw good money after bad, and when i spoke to congress staffers on the hill, they say, look, we don't want to throw good money after bad, but congress appropriated this money. we want to see that it's spent. >> see if it is spent. all right, thanks very much, elise, for that update. >>> up next, an explosive new lawsuit that accuses fox news and the white house of working together to push a false story to the masses. we're going to speak with one of the lawyers at the center of the case. that's next. did you know

i mean, breaking news, the pentagon is different from the state department. one does diplomacy.oes military action. so, look i think as a diplomat what we always wanted to see a credible threat of military action behind us so when we're negotiating, when we're sitting across the table, when we're trying to find solutions that are calm and diplomatic in nature we know that there's a credible threat behind us so that if we fail, if we're unable to come to an agreement, then we transfer the file behind us to the pentagon. david: right. >> they don't negotiate. so there is -- david: forgive me, when do we reach the end of the diplomatic road? at what point? >> diplomats should never reach the end. they should constantly be trying up until it is not safe. so i would say that because we have two different branches, because we have two different very successful parts of the government, the state department and the pentagon, they should be working own dual tracks and there should always be an evaluation by the nsc as to how successful one could be and whether or not we, for safety reaso

correspondent in 1982 and has covered every major beat from white house to the hill and from the pentagon to the state department. he began abecame -- tenure of face the nation. he is a recipient of eight emmys. 2013, was named a living legend by the library of congress. it doesn't get any better than that. it is now my pleasure to turn the program over to our moderator for the evening. [applause] bob schieffer: thank you. thank you. in the age of instant celebrity, where it is possible to become ,amous for simply being famous it is easy in times like that to border the line between heroes and celebrities. but we are here tonight to talk about heroes. the one we are talking about also became a celebrity. childst of all, he was a american hero. some heroes become famous for doing great things and some do great things and few even know about it. parents who sacrifices to make a good life for a child with special needs, the teacher who becomes a role model for young people who go on to do great things and have great lives. what is important to remember and that is why i'm so happy to be here tonight, is that americ

. >> sure we did at the pentagon and the state department not so much.was very tough on leaks. they're dangerous. i wrote about this friday night. i'm worried about the leak that led to "the washington post" story on tuesday. again, a good story, nothing against the post moving forward with it, but leaking details of a classified assessment about north korea's voting to -- put it in motion all this heated rhetoric and i think we need to all sit back and think about that for just a moment. but, yeah, look, leaks are never okay, at least classified leaks. there's all kinds of different types. when you're putting out confidential and classified information, that's against the law and the president is right to be angry about that. and his attorney general is right to launch an investigation on that. i think with we do need to look at that seriously. but i am concerned that -- ann's right, you also don't want to stifle whistle-blowers who have legitimate complaints about government and processes either. >> thank you so much, both of you, for being here. i app

states. and i know it is of concern to people, not only at the pentagon but at the state department? >> reporter: we're all used to a previous administration where everything was rheavily vetted. when there was someone talking about as critical with relationships with north korea. allies were brought in and informed about a statement prior to being made, south korea and japan. they would be notified. this is a steep departure from what we're accustomed to seeing. as you know better than anyone else. the president's tweet this morning, in essence about a military posture, it is correct. the u.s. military is always locked and loaded. they are always on a high state of readiness in this region, in this area, because we have a north korean leader, kim jong-un, who is very unpredictable. and he, himself, you know, unleashes a lot of fiery rhetoric. the part of the tweet that was a little bit disconcerting was him saying the word now. they are now locked and loaded. they are always in a state of readiness for primarily defensive but also offensive measures should they be necessary. >> and

and ann gearen, you covered the pentagon and the state department and the white house.now what i speak -- of what i speak. >> probably tillerson didn't sign off on it either. >> tillerson didn't even know about it initially. >> exactly. he's trying to soften it. even as he defended it today as the president speaking plainly in terms that the north korean leader can understand. he also, you know, clearly was trying to take this down a notch. >> and speaking of rex tillerson, he didn't mention north korea at all when he was in malaysia, the stop before the refuelling in guam. as i was talking it in real time and speaking to reporter on the trip, trying to figure out why hadn't he mentioned it given the heightened alarm about north korea. it was because it was not coordinated with the state department. michael, you wrote a column for the washington post entitled rex tillerson is a huge disappointment. you said if cabinet members are to be judged by the gap between expectation and performance, rex tillerson is among the worst, he was supposed to be one of the adults in the

. >> john kirby, you're a former spokesman over at the pentagon at the state department. this -- these conflicting reports, what goes through your mind? because it really undermines the credibility of various spokespeople over there. >> yeah, gloria, david covered that really well. they can't seem to get their story straight. first of all he had nothing to do with it, now he weighed in. the statement went through three versions of it before they agreed to it. of course, they have not been truthful about the original sin here, the whole purpose of going to the meeting itself. so, you know, you asked about communications strategy. i can tell you it doesn't appear to me there is one at all. >> because they didn't release the new information that he weighed in until this washington post story. >> yeah. >> in effect forced them to do so. >> this is communications by headline, right? so, you get -- and by query rather than as david rightly suggested, just wrap your arms around this, get it all out and be done with it. >> where does jared kushner, the president's son-in-law, sen

military and diplomatic retired rear admiral john kirby, a former spokesman for both the pentagon and the state department. sabrina, let's start with you. the biggest take away with this is that essentially the president is saying to pena nieto, listen, we'll figure out what's going to pay for this thing, it's going to come out in the wash, paraphrasing, but you know, stop saying you're not paying to the press. it's all about optics. >> it is indeed. and i think it's striking that for someone who fashioned himself as a candidate as a great negotiator, who is going to come in and strike deals with foreign leaders in a way that his predecessors were unable, trump was so quickly willing to concede that one of his primary campaign promises was, in fact, bluster, that it doesn't really matter who pays for the wall. he's much more focused on the perception and on a political win versus a loss and how it would be received if he was unable to meet a campaign promise and also this assumption that the president of mexico is going to adopt one of trump's most controversial campaign positions, which he had repeatedly

i suspect that the pentagon and state department are going to come forward with some options to the presidentshould do and certainly our policy after today is a sound one, and it is largely diplomatic focused around toughening sanctions on north korea, isolating that country and using china's leverage. wearily, we will have to step that up and they may put some other option on the table like shoot down another missile if it's fired. >> shannon: itself like this is a response to what north korea is describing is provocation. these joint exercise that we have south korea, some we always do. they said they telling us we are not going to negotiate with you unless you stop those. any chance of that? >> no. it is in relationship to that exercise, that's a biannual exercise, a critical exercise because with the united states and south korea actually practicing is going to war with north korea. actually taking that regime down. that is what is going on in north korea is very much aware of that and that's what they resent it. we will never give up those exercises. north korea and china, who was compli

political capital very small focus and in addition to that has given autonomy to this state department and the pentagon to be able to do pretty much whatever the is they want to do so no matter how against the sanctions he was all of these factors combined he forced his hand to sign this bill which had the overwhelming support of congress i just disagree i think he should have challenge this under the constitutional provisions as well as potentially reaching out to mccrone and to merkel and let them discuss and have full dialogue in front of the american people as to the illegality under international law that these sanctions have on the energy sector between europe and the european union and russia as well in creating the direct. pipeline capacity between russia and the which we also were intent on disrupting so i think a lot could have been done by this administration to paint a clearer picture to the american public as to why the sanctions should have been rejected what we've seen of donald trump while he's been in office and indeed prior to that he is not someone he likes admitting. the national pr

imaed eima resolving the north korea nuclear crisis and retired general kirby are toer state department and pentagon spokesperson. thank you to you both for joining us. and's the foreign minister actually invited to attend this meeting with all the other asian countries including the united states, actually met with the russian and the south korean foreign ministers, which is significant. he issued a statement saying this, the north korean foreign minister. we will under no circumstances put the nukes and ballistic rockets on the negotiating table. neither shall we flinch even an inch from the road to bolsters up the nuclear choices chosen by ourselves unless the nuclear threat of the united states ghent the dprk, the democratic people's republic of korea, are fundamentally eliminated. is that just rhetoric or is there some significance here? >> i think it's both. on one hand, we have to dismiss the most fiery parts of the rhetoric, because this is constant and north korea likes to entertain the world actually with flamboyant language. on the other hand, i think north korea is setting the stage and

in the state department and pentagon, for many of these people, it is like a game of risk. they look at the map and they want to turn different countries the colors they want to turn them. you can see that in vickers' column in the "the washington post" from a couple of weeks ago. that is how people view the world and how they do it. anything they say about humanitarian reasons, that is just good pr, the smart thing to say. [indiscernible] i just also wanted to address some of the legal framework that apply here. when we talk about human rights law, the right to life embodied in the u.n. charter, and every human rights treaty created, the right to life is invaluable. it is one of the major themes of human rights law. when we are talking about international humanitarian law, which governs how or is conducted, whether or not it was illegal to begin with, how we got into it, whether the circumstances were correct or not -- in international humanitarian law, there are military and principles that do apply. life undere right to human rights law is the norm and the standard, it i

what is the face of american diplomacy in pakistan is the pentagon and the cia rather than the state department? billionided to give $7 to the civilians in pakistan to try to change that. the result was far greater in pakistannism because the military started not wanting to lose their share of the money and basically said this money is an insult of pakistani sovereignty because all the auditing that is required, for it to secret plan to christianize pakistan. host: we have shelley from louisiana. a republican. caller: good morning. he madeave to say reference to it. it is likely are trying to buy friends. as long as we keep giving and giving to countries, they are going to be smart enough to determine how they keep adding to their funds and getting money from america. we are in such a financial aisis that it could become point in time that we cannot actually defend our own country because of the lack of funds. until congress decides they will anddults and work together put these party issues aside, we are never going to receive a result that is favorable to our country. thank you very much. gue

state department right now? >> certainly there should be the proper lineup of people in the state department and the pentagon andecurity council recognizing this is not a threat for this week or probably this month but it is as the cover story in this month's atlantic says it is the worst problem we have in a security aspect. it doesn't need to be treated as an emergency but certainly it is a serious problem. i this i that the argument in our cover story by mark bowde florida is there are only bad answers here. the least bad one is the one that for the moment the u.s. seeps to have settled on which is getting the rest of the world lined up in trying to apply long-term pressure because every other alternative is worse than that. >> he tweeted this saying he's disappointed china has done nothing to help. do you think the president relied too much on this personal relationship with president xky, maybe bonding too much over the chocolate case? >> certainly the coverage in the chinese press they seemed to have learned how to play donald trump and donald trump would think he could get the chinese just to make the nor

case the people who are the professionals, first of all, working in the buildings, the pentagon and state departmenthe white house, many of them are people i worked with before they understand very clearly what the threat is they believe our intelligence professionals. why? because those people have access to very good information on russia second, the cabinet heads, and the chairman of the joint chiefs, they've spoken on the record with regard to russia now secretary tillerson, he might be the one that's a little bit, he's the most squishiest because he's talk about wanting to talk with russia. but that's his role as diplomat. as long as he's backed up by some leverage, again by a stiff fine, he might be able to get us further than we've gotten in the past >> what do you think putin is thinking right now >> well, putin appears to be telegraphing that he thinks our president is weak through his prime minister because you may have seen the tweet world, in the twitter sphere we saw prime minister medvedev saying, this president is weak. he's impotent i think was the word he used, actually, and so that