readings or then from that is, the tenth day after easter, trinity and we have the first week after pentecostal such semantic centers. here, of course, the most important of them is easter , which falls in the spring. uh-huh yes and this creates on the one hand. there's a certain rhythm, eh, but not like that. eh, it's like a vicious circle. and how do they say this more often, aspirals say? yes, that is, understanding is up. yes, every year we comprehend at some new level, experiencing. even the same chants. the same holidays, plunging deeper, and at the same time, and rising higher, yes, that is, in this sense it organizes. e life. well, especially, of course, this is evident in monasteries, both in medieval and modern ones, in how life is organized around worship and around the liturgical charter. well, in the background, for example, this particularly vivid feeling against the background is really special. but exactly, but i’m still this line of two worlds, right? but it is clear that, as you said, you find yourself in a monastery. this is the feeling of home, but nevertheless, then we co

tom: one of my heroes, erica pentecost is a giant in my mind. are the systems within the eric pentecost textbook still at play? at invesco, are you making of the theories as you go or is this finance and economics from our models of the past that we can use now? ben: fascinating reference, it does not come up much. we are not making it up as we go, i can assure you. but my job is not so much making economics forecast as investment forecast. if our view is to pinpoint economic forecast, the economy can be relatively resilient coupled with policy that would take a pause on hiking and so is relatively more, to -- relatively more accommodative. for the time being, it is not as the -- not such a bad period. tom: given what you said about a resilient economy, does 60/40 work? ben: the 60 works. the 40 should do better. clearly it has been a dreadful part of the portfolio for 18 months. the bond component looks more asymmetric, there should be less downside. if we have the disinflationary narrative, the cbo report yesterday supports the idea that the t