they form this pentecostal beliefs. the dogma grew out of that. there were things that would come up. they would say, we saw your daughter. she was wearing capri pants. there were others against boys and girls swimming together. i used to question my parents .bout it here again -- about it they said, you have to feel what the spirit tells you. you have to feel right your self. the first time i heard about evolution i had to deal with it in college. it struck a real blow to my fundamental belief, but i had to deal with what it was about. am i going to have to deal with other ideas, or do i have to push them out because of a overrides them -- because something overrides them? that happened with buddha. they do not worship a god. how is that possible? it really is about enlightenment , so i started dealing am, that that i presents that is within us, and isstarted to click there something that guides us. allow that to happen in a way that we give voice to. >> when you are exposing your players to the spirit you have --osed them to, most often did you

>> i want to say one thing about pentecostal temple. i would stand outside the pentecostal church and listen. [laughter] tavis: did you all hear that? if you want good music, check us out. >> this is the truth. but my teacher, my classical teacher was a cme organist there. to take this no-no music away from the spiritual environment. we were doing something we knew was not kosher, for lack of a better word. the -- herstand caught hell for doing this. pleasureought so much do such a large number of people, me included. the reason i wanted to become an organ player is because i heard ray charles play on quincy jones's arrangement. i heard that sound and it struck me. that is what i want to do with my life. that is the sound i want to try to make. in going for that, that is what i gravitated to, the hammond m-3 organ at satellite records, which became stax records. that is how i ended up sitting at the instrument trying to sound like ray charles. every instrument speaks to us. has it's own voice. something about the sound of the organ and

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he perfected his artistry by way of the pentecostal church, the same church i grew up in. the in the church call it sacred steel. he is about to release his first studio album in three years, entitled "lickety split." let's take a look at a cut from that cd. wherever wearty go train on the track once we leave here, we ain't coming back down from the roof and dance in the street spin it around. it is a party wherever we go ♪ ♪ shout to that. >> me to. [laughter] tavis: how do you process that? every time i hear you play, i ray," wheree movie " he is in the club and they jump on him. stop playing that. a are in their dancing and cutting a step to it erie it" -- to it. .ay has the backbeat behind it how do you process that? >> i have not stopped hearing it at all. i have a bunch of old articles and on spec call me up, you did not mix the church beat into that song. you went too rock 'n roll this time. they get on me, but it is the roots of our rock 'n roll church. by me playing the lap steel and the pedal steel, it has the loud, edgy thing. i have some different things to mak

plus jerry dewitt is here to share his journ friday from pentecostal preacher to devout atheist and i'll talk to two men who are trying to get married in all 50 states. seriously? how many toasters does one couple need? all of that and more on "say anything." god forbid, paula

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here again with the understanding that for the black church and the black pentecostal church in particular our concerns are global. the issue is not simply talking about a set of supreme court decisions with the white house. it has to do with the religious minorities in countries that do not accord to our folks. the same liberties that they insist that they must have when they come here. so there are a couple of conversations that we need to have. conversations about religious liberty and freedom of conscience and there needs to be a conversation about when i start a church with two people the issues that have part of the conversation that i'm interested in having come i would like to talk with my brothers and sisters about how we have religious liberty here and when i am in tripoli, cairo, or somewhere in north africa, and i want to talk about jesus, or if i don't talk about jesus, to say no, not only can he not talk about that, you can see those starving people. because that is a form of evangelism. in the interest of god. now, for me, a couple of things. the obama administration, i am a

attributed his consistent opposition to his pentecostal christian beliefs.n't do that particular thing then? >> the knowledge somebody is doing it creeps him out. makes him feel like his rights have been regulated. >> what if one of their arms touched mine? what if music started playing? ♪ ain't no as soon as possibling possibling -- ain't no stopping us now ♪ >> stephanie: knowing someone who is gay matters. i had a friend who said i don't think anyone in my family knows anyone gay. i said i'm sure they do. >> hal: that means you have a gay member of your family. if you don't have any gay friends, someone in your family is gay because they're the run running off the gays so they don't get found out or don't act -- start acting on their feelings. >> stephanie: like james inhofe showing there's nothing icky in his genetic line ever. nothing like divorce or homosexuality. >> that's just inviting an investigation. >> stephanie: if you shake that inhofe family tree, some pink fruit is going to fall down. [ ding ding ] >> most fabulous way possible. >> hal: maybe

and in baton rouge, louisiana, former pentecostal minister, now atheist, jerry dewitt.faith." thomas roberts and legal ger are back at the table as well. and as fascinating as all of us seem to be to ourselves and others, there's nobody more fascinating than somebody who writes a book as -- i mean, it just is a grabber. an ex-pastor's journey from belief to eighthiatheist. why did you write the book? >> i wrote the book to tell my story. i think it's a story a lot of people are living through. i think they needed the support by hearing there were other people out in the world just like themselves. thank you for calling me fascinating. i think that's a first. >> well, fascinating. it beats what i'm sure a lot of other people have been calling you. so tell me about the leap from faith to what i would believe would be hopelessness but you say there's hope after faith. talk about that jump. was there a triggering event or did it occur over time? >> no. no. i wish it was a triggering event. but then we wouldn't have 270 pages of a book to write or 25 years worth of a story t