s, we were also facing budget cuts. this threat of contract that the people have given to families and students, that you were going to get a high quality of moral education starting in kindergarten, all the way through college, if you could stay the course. we saought start to the road bak then. that is something that we continue to fight for. i want to thank you for your leadership. i cannot imagine someone who is more capable, strong, a willing leader at this time in the budget. so thank you, john, for your leadership. if you ride muni, if you send your children to public schools, if you use public parks or any of our libraries, you have felt the impact of the office of the assessor-recorder. someone told me yesterday that it is the office that most people have ever heard of. there is some truth to that. but everybody, even today, has felt the impact of our office. we have one of the most important jobs in city hall. we make sure every san franciscan, from the smallest home owner to the biggest in the city, pays their fair share in taxes. since 2005, we are on the way to being the best. our office in the last six month

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spend all that much money helping poor people relative to the larger budget but we do hand off trillions to corporations and their multimillionaire and billionaire c.e.o.'s to buy from them everything from bombs to fighter jets to chertoff inners for ports so if we let the republicans win this budget fight as the corporate media seems more than willing to let happen in a few years from now we'll be asking these same questions about what to do with the soaring budget deficit and at the same time wondering why the middle class seems to have completely disappeared the solutions to our budget problems are simply wouldn't believe simply in fact i can tell you the solution using only six words roll back the reagan tax cuts heck roll back the bush tax cuts go back to clinton levels where the wealthiest americans paid an extra three percent just three percent three measly percentage points and we take a huge chunk of our debt out of our deficit just like that. remember the clinton budget passed without a single republican vote the house not only gave us a balanced budget but a surplus and if we roll back the reagan tax cuts and made billionaires pay at least sev

s, they became the first roles monument. the way city spread changed with the invention of the cable car. >> people know in san francisco, first thing they think about is, let's go >> welcome to the budget and finance committee. when supervisor campos arrives, we will have a special meeting of the board. -- when supervisor kim arrives. just a quick announcement, we have an overflow room that has been said up. that overflow room is in 263. you will be able to follow up on the public comments. we just want to make sure that people want -- to know that we have an overflow room. do we have any announcements? >> please turn off all cell phones. if you present any documents, please provide a document to the clerk for the file. >> would you call item number 1 and 2. >> number one, ordinance amending the part code article 12 by amending 12.46 to extend admission fees to the botanical garden for non san francisco residents be on june 30th, 2011, eliminate the provision canceling this admission fee for the recreation and park department receives revenue for a new tax that can be used for botanical garden operating and maintenance costs. number 2, ordinance appropriating $195,000 of the general fu

. >> whether or not the so-called people's budget does come up for a vote it is still a significant step in the debate says abc 7'sitical analyst. >> it provides a frame work. if obama is really going make the case that what he is presenting is in the middle people have to see both ends and if all they are hearing is the ryan plan and they are not hearing the democratic plan then they don't really have a perspective on where obama is coming from. >> the president's strategy is to appeal to the voters in the middle of the political spectrum and he believes that they will go along with taxing the wealthiest. but republicans in the house of representatives so far aren't buying so expect the president to take his message to voters in hopes that public opinion will convince the republican lawmakers. from the newsroom, mark matthews, abc 7. >>> george stephanopoulos will get the chance to question the president tomorrow and you can see it that interview on world news with di diane sawyer on a7 7 on thursday evening. >>> did the budget talks get the best of the vice president? watch as president is giving his remarks on

budget balanced. you have to say no to people that may be your friends, you have to make people mad ask deal with entitles. s and look at revenue. people things in the real world do every day. i hope and pray we get momentum to one day have a constitution balanced budget amendment that will change the way things work not just now but forever. it is sad to say, but i think that is needed. >> thank you senator hatch. before being elected to the senate last year i had the distinction of being the longest serving governor in the united states. served asa i governor for 10 years for the state of north dakota. one thing we had to do every year is balance our budget. families have to balance their budget. businesses have to balance their budget. cities have to balance their budgets. states have to balance their budgets. our country needs to balance its budget. now, i am pleased that all 47 republican senators are together. it provides the right kind of safeguards. it provides safeguards in time of war. it provides trancition to get to the balanced budget so we address social security, medicare. i am hopeful with al

people want fiscal restraint, responsible leadership. even safety net programs continue to grow under the current budget that we just passed. they want to see the type of welfare reform that we saw in the 1990'su had president clinton and republicans come together. it was very painful, having been there, but came together to have responsible government that powered back with the governors and allowed those governors to make >> tomorrow douglas holtz-eakin compares the president and the republicans a budget proposal. a discussion of the impact of the 2011 budget cuts on epa. and john spratt talks about the commission's proposals for capping discretion -- discretionary spending through 2020 and cutting security and 2020 and cutting security and

s reimbursement for medicare. unfortunately, as a result, many doctors do not want to take medicare people. host: "the wall street journal" takes a look at the president's budgeto you think about the approach? guest: it is an approach that we have to figure out. how are we going to preserve medicare, social security? many folks in those programs. some do not. if not, they should be able to opt out. for folks who have planned on social security and medicare, it is incumbent upon us to preserve that so that they get what they need. host: when talking about medicaid, some have suggested block grants? why is that an important provision? guest: because it gives back to the states. let the states control their programs, what benefits their patients, subscribers can get through medicaid. it eliminates this a big federal government, all of this spending that goes to administrative costs. let the states decide what is best. host: dann in ohio. independent line. caller: with all due respect, ma'am, you are not being honest. the ryan plan does cut medicare. we know how we got in this mess, it is called republicans. two wars, you expanded homeland security, you messed up

people in the federal government. there's been commissions, studies, they haven't all led to the through downs in spending. there were provisions in the 1970's of the balanced budget agreement as though spending on the positions in medicare and congress has repeatedly flinched at carrying out that provision. so i'm curious, at what point are we really in trouble if we don't act? and when will we know we have reached that tipping point? >> what cbo said on a number of occasions is that we don't know how to predict whether it is a tipping point in federal debt or what that tipping point might be exactly. but the retirement of the baby boom generation is not a surprise. i've been going to conferences for a decade noting that when that happens the burden of social security and medicare and medicaid would go up sharply and the country should be making plans for that. as you say the changes in policy have been enacted but none of them so far that to put us on a sustainable path. i do think what is different now is first of all the retirement of the baby boom is a pun off and thus the projected increase in spending that he's the only in the long run budget projections ar

budget and that's why we're here, that's why we're debating these c.r.'s. this ctinuing resolution is the right outcome, not only for the american people but for our military. this isn't a democratic or a republan issue. this is what's best for the american people and most iortantly what's best for our troops. give them certainty, give them what ty need to keep us safe and allow us to be here today with this debate. i thank you and i yield my time back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. the gentleman from virginia is recognized in place of the gentleman from washington. >> madam speaker, if the very distinguished chair of e committee wants to yield back we'll yield back as well. mr. moran: in the spirit of comity. i yield -- mr. rogers will close. mr. rogers: if the gentleman will yield, i have one other speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: i recognize the gentleman from arkansas, mr. griffin, for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from arkansas is recognized for one minute. mr. griffin: thank you, madam chairman. thank you, mr. chairman. brave men and women are in harm'

budget and that's why we're here, that's why we're debating these c.r.'s. this continuing resolution is the right outcome, not only for the american people but for our military. this isn't a democratic or a republican issue. this is what's best for the american people and most importantly what's best for our troops. give them certainty, give them what they need to keep us safe and allow us to be here today with this debate. i thank you and i yield my time back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. the gentleman from virginia is recognized in place of the gentleman from washington. >> madam speaker, if the very distinguished chair of the committee wants to yield back we'll yield back as well. mr. moran: in the spirit of comity. i yield -- mr. rogers will close. mr. rogers: if the gentleman will yield, i have one other speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: i recognize the gentleman from arkansas, mr. griffin, for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from arkansas is recognized for one minute. mr. griffin: thank you, madam chairman. thank you, mr. chairman. brave men and women are

people that made deems with hitler in the 1940's. where are we going with this? are we americans or livestock that are just being thinned out. >> now under the 2012 budget red machine will the democrats promote something or just criticize his plan? front page of the "washington post" we showed you the president at the lincoln memori memorial. he was scheduled to go to williamsburg, virginia, for the weekend but was in town in part to sign the extension of the c.r. for the rest of the week. two headlines below can obama cut the budget and keep democrats happy? next to that the intersection of three visions, obama, boehner and reid. with handicap. i will again with paul kane. john bane aoehner entered the negotiation as the head of the republican majority but he worried conservative lawmakers might desert him if the deal didn't meet their expectations. the president was trying to change his possible image midstream from america's top democrat to a chief executive immune from partisan squabbling. reid watched his party lose the momentum. his job had shrunk to defending past gains. then americans might ask which is the real obama, the politician who embraced the bigges

people don't. so i think there's been a shift in public opinion that may affect this. to the question of what this opposed for the future budget snow,s, i think that's right. even if a shutdown is averted today, and i think there's a fairly strong, and when the bigger easyness of shutting down the government comes, it will be not as hard to do so. things would have to go on a long time before funding to yustes from the federal government would be affected. host: and in terms of applications you would be sending in through loans or grants? guest: that will be slowed down. the education department, virtually everyone at the education department will be furloughed. so i think all that sort of processing is going to come to at least a temporary hault. host: and that issue, sara saying if the military or governmental agencies are not funded or paid, congress should not be paid. guest: that is certainly a popular opinion among federal employees. that's an idea that several members of congress have actually pushed, and i would not at all be surprised to see that happen. if there's a shutdown, i think it will be difficult for members of cong

budget and that's why we're here, that's why we're debating these c.r.'s. this continuing resolution is the right outcome, not only for the american people but for our military. this isn't a democratic or a republican issue. this is what's best for the american people and most importantly what's best for our troops. give them certainty, give them what they need to keep us safe and allow us to be here today with this debate. i thank you and i yield my time back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back. the gentleman from virginia is recognized in place of the gentleman from washington. >> madam speaker, if the very distinguished chair of the committee wants to yield back we'll yield back as well. mr. moran: in the spirit of comity. i yield -- mr. rogers will close. mr. rogers: if the gentleman will yield, i have one other speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. mr. rogers: i recognize the gentleman from arkansas, mr. griffin, for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from arkansas is recognized for one minute. mr. griffin: thank you, madam chairman. thank you, mr. chairman. brave men and women are

people don't. so i think there's been a shift in public opinion that may affect this. to the question of what this opposed for the future budget snow,s, i think that's right. even if a shutdown is averted today, and i think there's a fairly strong, and when the bigger easyness of shutting down the government comes, it will be not as hard to do so. things would have to go on a long time before funding to yustes from the federal government would be affected. host: and in terms of applications you would be sending in through loans or grants? guest: that will be slowed down. the education department, virtually everyone at the education department will be furloughed. so i think all that sort of processing is going to come to at least a temporary hault. host: and that issue, sara saying if the military or governmental agencies are not funded or paid, congress should not be paid. guest: that is certainly a popular opinion among federal employees. that's an idea that several members of congress have actually pushed, and i would not at all be surprised to see that happen. if there's a shutdown, i think it will be difficult for members of cong

people and still getting the budget cuts that we need. well, i'm here to say it has now been 35 days, 35 days since the senate passed s. 388. what is s. 388? senate bill 388 says if there is a shutdown, members of congress and the president will not receive their pay. why do i think this is important? because most people don't know that although our staffs won't get paid, although many federal employees will not get paid, members of congress have a special protection built in because we're paid under a statute and so is the president. and so 35 days ago we sent over to the house a very simple bill. it says, if there's a shutdown, basically that means failure on our part to keep the government going -- what could be more basic than that -- we shouldn't get paid, and we shouldn't get paid retroactively. our colleagues over there have taken no action. now, if you ask them, they'll say, oh, yes, we d. w did. we put that in another bill and passed it. well, you know what the other bill is? the other bill is an illegal bill. the other bill would make our founders roll over in their graves. this is what the bill they embedded no b

example, budget out of control but they brought in the lottery, they sued the cigarette -- the tobacco company -- to fund medicare and don't have that. people pay in, we need to pay those i.o.u.'s back to social security where during the last separation they were -- the last administration they were putting an i.o.u. back and not being accountable. host: twitter has this thought. the job is not done and is in all capitals. he saeid apologize to the american people for the ineptness, tired of all the excuses. that is forms for justice. independent line. caller: thaefrpgs -- thanks for taking my call. i echo some of the earlier sentiments but i have to say i think the mainstream media reporters in most of the cases especially congress are neglecting the 10,000-pound gorilla in the room. we are fighting three wars. that is sacrosanct money as far as these congressmen are concerned. it is a half billion dollar budget and another half billion if you add on all the extras that are included in the defense budget. we can't afford to -- and it is not like giving tax breaks to billionaires and corporationless who don't pay taxes. even those two things together you could probably end thes

budget, are the tough one. s. the public does not know that. it has been easy to keep them in the dark. peoplehave been reluctant to give up some of that ideology. it is no longer a partisan agenda. it has got to be a bipartisan agenda or we will not get any further than we have gotten in the last 30 years. >> might it happen in this budget? is this the time? >> i think now is the only time. if it does not happen now, i am deeply pessimistic. i will use my last comment to do something i should not do, which is not to wrap up, but to bring up something we have not talked about. there is an indication we will have a national-security debate in this country that we have not seen for a long time. the reason i say that is because i am looking at what i have seen from some republicans that would have been shocking. you have the senators on the bowles-simpson commission talking about reductions in the defense budget that secretary gates called catastrophic. to hear republicans talking about that is not something we have seen before. haley barbour has come out against libya and is questioning opposing

people want fiscal restraint, responsible leadership. even safety net programs continue to grow under the current budget that we just passed. they want to see the type of welfare reform that we saw in the 1990's when you had president clinton and republicans come together. it was very painful, having been there, but came together to have responsible government that powered back with the governors and allowed those governors to make unique choices to save their states. host: leslie sanchez, graduate of george washington university, attends johns hopkins university in the baltimore area. and jamal simmons, graduate of morehouse college and earned his masters from the kennedy school at harvard. he's also a principal at the raven group here in washington, d.c. gordon joins us from columbus, ohio, for our two guests. good morning. welcome to the conversation. caller: thank you. and good morning to you all. thanks for allowing me to join before i get up and go to church this morning. host: certainly. caller: well, i have a few questions. first of all, ms. leslie sanchez, i believe you just talked about the governors and their plans. our governor here -- i just want to touch on one specific plan tha

s reimbursement for medicare. unfortunately, as a result, many doctors do not want to take medicare people. host: "the wall street journal" takes a look at the president's budget. what do you think about the approach? guest: it is an approach that we have to figure out. how are we going to preserve medicare, social security? many folks in those programs. some do not. if not, they should be able to opt out. for folks who have planned on social security and medicare, it is incumbent upon us to preserve that so that they get what they need. host: when talking about medicaid, some have suggested block grants? why is that an important provision? guest: because it gives back to the states. let the states control their programs, what benefits their patients, subscribers can get through medicaid. it eliminates this a big federal government, all of this spending that goes to administrative costs. let the states decide what is best. host: dann in ohio. independent line. caller: with all due respect, ma'am, you are not being honest. the ryan plan does cut medicare. we know how we got in this mess, it is called republicans. two wars, you expanded homeland security, you me

budget office, under the ryan plan -- quote -- "most elderly people would pay more." i might arksd "much more for the health care's athan they do under the current health care s how muchmore? c.b.o. says under the ryan plan, the average 65-year-old would have to pay $12,000 a year to receive the same level of benefits medicare offers today. $12,000 a year. that is more than double what a senior would have to pay under today's medicare. so the ryan plan would double the payment seniors have to make and the benefits would be reduced. under the ryan plan, there would be no guaranteed benefits that are protected under medicare today. as a result, private insurance companies would dictate what care a senior received, ending current doctor-patient relationship. our deficit of course is serious. it's very serious. it must be addressed. we need to look for more ways to reduce our deficit. we need to do so in a balanced and fair way. for starters we shouldn't balance the budget on the backs of seniors. we will not allow medicare to be dismantled. not on our watch. yesterday senator bill nelson and i introduced a sense of the senate resolution stating that "medicare should not

s as inclosed by this chart and it has gone up three times since 1995. i would just remind people again that there are a lot of accusations going back and forth across the table. this budget does not say anything about any age. under this budget, funding under the nih could increase. that is a decision the appropriators will make. they will get a bucket of resources, money that they will divide appropriately as the appropriations committee sees the fed to put the resources committee hard-earned taxpayer money that they send to washington to do the work that needs to be down. no cuts to the nih in this budget. if you think you are voting on cuts to nih or an increase in the nih with this amendment, that is not true. the decisions will be made by the appropriators. 300% increase over 15 years, double the republicans over a five-year period of time when we controlled the house in the 1990 proxy. no specific cuts to the nih in this budget. with that, i urge defeat of the amendment. >> the gentleman yields. the gentle lady from florida gets one minute to close. >> thank you, mr. chairman. the republicans say we are not cutting nih, will function 550 covers not only engage by a

people want fiscal restraint, responsible leadership. even safety net programs continue to grow under the current budget that we just passed. they want to see the type of welfare reform that we saw in the 1990's when you had president clinton and republicans come together. it was very painful, having been there, but came together to have responsible government that powered back with the governors and allowed those governors to make unique choices to save their states. host: leslie sanchez, graduate of george washington university, attends johns hopkins university in the baltimore area. and jamal simmons, graduate of morehouse college and earned his masters from the kennedy school at harvard. he's also a principal at the raven group here in washington, d.c. gordon joins us from columbus, ohio, for our two guests. good morning. welcome to the conversation. caller: thank you. and good morning to you all. thanks for allowing me to join before i get up and go to church this morning. host: certainly. caller: well, i have a few questions. first of all, ms. leslie sanchez, i believe you just talked about the governors and their plans. our governor here -- i just want to touch on one specific plan tha

s as evidenced by this charge. i want to remind people that a lot of accusations going back and forth across the table. this budget does not say anything about nih. funding could increase under this budget. they will get a bucket of resources, money they will provide -- divide as the committee sees fit as to where to put the resources. no cuts to nih in this budget. the decisions will be made by the appropriations committee. no specific cuts to nih in this budget. i yield back the balance of my time. >> our friends at the republican party say we are not cutting nih. what are we cutting? how about health benefits for federal retirees. there are a variety of imported services affected. i distinctly remember the chairman standing on the house floor committing that the republicans would never cut nih. h r one has dramatic cuts to nih. the track record is clear. republicans do not make sure that they maintain the appropriate amount on health care funding. -- on this funding. the proof is in the pudding. i yield back. >> all those in favor say aye. those opposed say no. a recorded vote has been requested. we will call t

people in the federal government. there's been commissions, studies, they haven't all led to the through downs in spending. there were provisions in the 1970's of the balanced budget agreement as though spending on the positions in medicare and congress has repeatedly flinched at carrying out that provision. so i'm curious, at what point are we really in trouble if we don't act? and when will we know we have reached that tipping point? >> what cbo said on a number of occasions is that we don't know how to predict whether it is a tipping point in federal debt or what that tipping point might be exactly. but the retirement of the baby boom generation is not a surprise. i've been going to conferences for a decade noting that when that happens the burden of social security and medicare and medicaid would go up sharply and the country should be making plans for that. as you say the changes in policy have been enacted but none of them so far that to put us on a sustainable path. i do think what is different now is first of all the retirement of the baby boom is a pun off and thus the projected increase in spending that he's the only in the long run budget projections ar