s juan gonzalez and i spoke to two guests about the calls for a people's vaccine' dr. mohga kamal-yanni joined us from oxford. she is policy adviser to the people's vaccine alliance. she has worked for decades on access to medicines and healthcare in developing countries. achal prabhala joined us from bangalore, india where he is coordinator of the accessibsa project, which campaigns for access to medicines in india, brazil, and south africa. he recently co-authored an op-ed published in "the new york times" headlined "want vaccines fast? suspend intellectual property rights." i asked dr. mohga kamal-yanni to talk about the call for a people's vaccine. >> well, the people's vaccine is a coalition of organizations like amnesty, frontline aids, glob justice, oxfam. it's co-led by oxfam and unaids. and it has so many people, you know, academics, health activists, health experts, ngos, patient groups, from all over the world, united for one aim, which has a people's vaccine, not a profit vaccine. so we want aaccine -- basically, we're calling for vaccination that is available for all people at risk, and then for everybody once we have enough des, t not the way it's ha