in the mostly tear recall sense, isreal is real on any different levels for literal jewish peoplehood. and it has a lot to do with how we relate to the environment and the world around us and how we engage those things in our world and there's nothing more basic than our relationship to the lapped and the earth. and i'm wondering, i'm wondering what kind of changes do you see in the folks that you've been or successful in bringing through your front door? what do you see as part of the identification changes that happen when somebody engages in a project at a summer camp like work in the garden or someone comes in the wider bridges door? >> there's two groups of people i'm like to talk about here. one are the campers that interact with the garden and participate in the program. and they get and awareness. and they get and enlightment that they otherwise didn't have. then we have the amir farmer, the college kid that is running the program. and they are jolted into new phases of their life where they are recommitted to pursuing work in the social justice field, pursuing work in public