i mean, you get taken over, peoplesoft gets taken over by oracle in a not very pretty situation, but a lot of money comes out of it and you are able to use it to create workday. would venture capitol have funded you the way you funded you? >> i think they would if you are a consumer company? >> so the answer is no. you are not a consumer company. you are a one-off, in the sense that there's a bizarre set of circumstances that allow you to exist. >> a lot of the original funding comes from dave dufffield, these kind of businesses are built for the long run, they are not built for the quick three-year hit. we are eight years old, so we are not that young a company anymore. >> at the same time, it's over a long time scale, and the high barrier to entry, are you structuring the company to be a bigger company that you til have some of that kind of agilitiy? >> we are a little over 2,000 employees now, if you walk around the workday offices, feel like you are in a start up, and a consumer internet company. that is by design. >> what is in the science that fuels the internet company? >> the