then we should be working around the clock to do what we did in pepfar. pepfar was brilliant because it worked with the large pharmaceutical companies and large pharmaceutical companies agreed to this patent protection waiver that allowed new hiv drugs to be made by nonbranded suppliers. expedite elite approved by the fda and a parallel mechanism to ensure their safe and effective and allowed us to buy those. so we were able to bring the best treatment to sub-saharan africa and asia around the globe. globe. that should be happening right now covid therapeutics. we know how to do it. we know how to distribute it and we need to use the distribution mechanisms that we've utilized in pepfar. we can get drug to the most remote villages, we can get pepfar to the most remote villages. we can get vaccines to the most remote villages. i think we're still not taking advantage of everything we have learned through the decades. i find, you know, there's a pandemic people that look at this as a pandemic and then there's the rest of us who have been dealing with pandem

they can tell their ministries to utilize the capacity that we built over the last two decades with pepfar and i wanted them to know that our resources were available to them immediately. and so i'm trying to get africa and asia ahead of the curve and we're sending out cables through our state department to all the embassies about my concern and how to utilize pep bar dollars to expand testing and let the ministries of health know the depth of my concerns and i'm assuming that the same things happening in the united states, but then i just watched over february i was over in africa most of february and i'm watching and i'm watching the nightly news and i'm watching the reports of the press conferences. the tours, and the president are holding and they keep talking about the risk being low and that we only have this handful of cases and then we're going to close our air i were going to close to china, but we're going to let all of the expats come back and we're only going to screen by symptoms and i was like, the virus is everywhere. so i did have a friend in the white house who's was the h

establishing and being the principal architect of the president's emergency plan for aids relief, or pepfaration with president george w bush. right. clearly a conservative republican. so i think to say republican versus democrat, it is not really correct to do that, because the degree of divisiveness in our country is founded in untruths and distortion. and that theme, if i may say so, dr fauci, has come over loud and clear in this interview. do you think that when you leave thisjob, given the divisiveness that you have seen and the direct threats and intimidation that you and your family have faced, do you think that you can live a safe and serene life in this united states that you describe when you leave your currentjob? well, i hope so. i still have federal agent protection because of the ridiculous situation where i and other public health officials continually have our life and our safety and that of our families threatened. there's something very, very wrong with that picture. would you not agree? i would. and ijust wonder whether you see any end to it. well, i hope so. i hope... i