but if there is a crime of moral peppe moramoral, we demand on family members to get in touch with themo even talk to them, to take deputy depositions. it can be impossible. >> it's my understanding that you're not guaranteed counsel. why is that the case? i thought constitutional rights extend to anyone who's charged with anything in the country? >> no, because although some immigration offenses are crimes, some are not. there are some who overstayed their visiting sees i visa. that's not a crime. they are not necessarily given counsel. >> unfortunately, we don't have time. we could do another half hour on this. thank you very much all for being here today. before we go we want to once again tell you about the new al jazeera original series "borderland" it appears sunday night 9:00 eastern. we'll take you on a journey into the heart of the immigration story in america. that brings us to the ends of this edition of "inside story." thanks for being with us. in washington, i'm ray suarez. america. i'm richelle carey, are the top stories. >> armed men take over police and security building