and then when the 1980's came along, it was all about you are a pepsi-cola products, you are somethinge, and i did not think that way, and i was never very good about suddenly thinking of product instead of inspiration and musicality, so -- tavis: that is because you are a very wise woman with a very wise mother. the '80s, they came and went. >> part of the story of my success, which is undeniable and for which i was incredibly grateful, was the window in time in which i was able to do what i did, and i were sheltered from having to think about anything like that by working with lou and donny, so i had the experience as a writer and then as an artist, and the shield me from having to deal with the corporate world, so between those two things, i had made a more advantageous time period. tavis: how difficult is it -- i would think difficult, but you tell me -- to introduce new music at christmastime. it is the most traditional season of our lives, and that is what people know. they are used to doing things that are normal, that are typical, that are traditional, so when you try to break

pepsi co, and it's their first joint venture. [ light laughter ] [ laughter ] >> jimmy: coke and pepsi-cola-- and pepsi owns doritos? >> steve: yes, exactly. >> jimmy: i mean, who would ever bust us on that? i guess somebody would. i don't know. >> steve: i don't know. i like to be widely right. >> jimmy: widely right. >> steve: yeah. >> jimmy: let's do one more wave. you want to do another wave? >> steve: yeah, come on. [ cheers and applause ] okay, not yet. >> jimmy: 1, 2, 3, go! [ cheers ] ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> steve: he did it this time. >> jimmy: thank you very much. now he -- you're a good man. thank you, buddy. here we go. pro, herman cain has a new plan to clean up the environment. con, sexually harassing litterbugs. [ laughter ] [ audience ohs ] that's a good idea. but will it work? who knows? who knows? >> steve: give a hoot. >> jimmy: yep. [ light laughter ] pro, new york city has introduced a fleet of hybrid taxis to reduce emissions from cabs. con, there's still no solution for emissions from cab drivers. [ laughter ] "where you going?" [ mumbling ] >> steve: "i'm just r