in the locker room and then, you know, years later, you're opposite sides of the fence. >> deputy perduerland worked there as a training officer. >> it ain't going to be easy, not going to happen overnight but, you know, sooner or later maybe you get your life back to where it was before all this happened. >> yeah, if not, back where it was, at least as i finish out this life with some normalcy. >> yeah, definitely. >> within the next week or so, a transport van will take sutherland to a state prison to serve his time. >> well, there's a saying to do the time, don't let the time do you. it's just a statement of, go with the flow. you know, you read, you play cards. you make the most of it. you're here. deal with it. sometimes that's hard but until you do, you know, life is really tough. and for me with all of the issues that i was having personally, i could be maybe in a different program that would be nicer than this, but this is probably still better than me being on my own right now. i hate to say that but -- >> sutherland's upcoming transfer to state prison is fine with at least one