esther perel is arguably the most famous relationship therapist on the planet.er best-selling books, live audience therapy sessions, her podcasts, where should we begin, have helped millions of people. america's surgeon general vivek murthy calls loneliness a profound threat to our health and our well-being. fortunately, though, esther perel is here though with some of the antidotes and to talk about artificial intelligence reprogramming our relationships. i caught up with her recently during one of her trips to london. >> esther perel, welcome back to the program. >> thank you. >> here you are doing a whole new show and you've got a new series of your podcast, and you've also got new ventures, you have talked about social atrophy. what does that mean? >> that means just the way that technology is influencing and shaping human relationships. and in particular, i'm looking at the intersection between technology and loneliness, and love. >> so i want to read you some stats. there's a number of americans who report having no close friends at all, has quadrupled sin