but all -- of all that time, i've never seen such a wonderful , effective -- based on respect perelli and shaun donovan.with they treat us as equals. they roll up their sleeves. we get the job done as best we can together. it has been a model for federal-state relationships, the relationship we've had with them. and just going back for one second to the assistant attorney generals. the attorney generals offices over the last 4 1/2 years, since the mortgage meltdown in 2007, we have done more on dealing with working with, prodding, pushing, threatening to sue the servicers of loans than anybody else. in term of knowledge, knowledge base on servicing of loans in this country, us and the banking regulators i think are unparalleled in our knowledge, experience, and -- >> all of this available online in our video library at c-span do the coring and later in our program schedule. take you live now here in washington, the annual conservative political action conference is getting started. first up this morning, this afternoon going to hear from republican leader of the u.s. senate mitch mcco