but i stilthink that pererry is a ptean force. he is likable two and awful lot of people. and in this time in which we are living where passions are running and the fear is great, a demagogue has a chance. >> let me buy into your hypothetical that democrats have to get glandular and republicans never did before. i think it is partly true but i am not sure even when clinton and obama were going at eachh other, exceptor the 3:00 in the morning and hing a vicious attack ads of this early inside the party strikes me that this of a party that is not really usesed to doing g this. i don't know how it affects theirrospects. >> one exception to the shields glandular pieces, is kerry i did not remember anybody particularly hormonal l about him. and he lost. i think on the repupublican side, that is the story. mitt romomney as the man who once the lastan standing. he is the one i i thi in the end will be considered acceptable just a conservative enough. but it is early. so, if you are energized as republicans are, over obama, you do not want to setettle early on conservative enough.

. >>>> i'm ricick pererry. and are e you brreaking u up with me? >> what about the guy that made pizza? in first place. >> 9-9-9! >> 9-9-9 has been basically dismissed by virtually every single reasonably educated economist that we can find. >> he may be making it up as he goes along. >> creating a vat and a sales tax and keeping the income tax. it's like having three needles in your arm take blood out. >> i do not think herman cain is the front-runner for the nomination. that said, you look at your poll, chuck, and there is a -- >> here are the head-to-head match-ups. you have president obama at 46% over mitt romney at 44%. against rerman cain herman cain the president has an 11-point lead and against rick perry he has a 12-point lead. >> we're stuck with mitt. >> if we don't run with chris christie romney will be the nominee and we'll lose. >>> more good news for herman cain. after taking the lead in yesterday's nbc news/"wall street journal" national poll of republican voters, he now has the lead in the all-important primary state of florida. in