lots of other affordable, available things to watch for a lot less money that appreciate the fans perha a little bit better and who value the fan more properly. >> hunt: minor leag baseball for one. >> sure. >> hunt: let me ask you both. in these talks... either the n.f.l. or the n.b.a., we talk about the owners, are the differences with the owners. are there there hawks and doves and some who are wiser? >> there's a very much a haw and dove breakdown, particularly in the n.f.l. one of the things we've mean? reaching an agreement between the players and the oers, what's reall going on here is less a quarrel between the owners and the players, although one certainly exists, than an internal quarrel betweenwners, big-market owners, small-market ners, owners who are raking in the chips and owners who are struling in towns like buffalo and detroit to make a profit. and so, you know, owners are very much taking their internal quarrels into contract negotiations with the players and, again, the fans are helping to pay for an internal dispute. >> and n.b.a. owners are fighting for some of them

this is perha ul a litl he s and akward for us. i think the speaker is doing the right thing right now. maybe we were late to get to where it should have been. i can't defend the timeline but at same time i can defend the product and we needed to get out there and get this done. >> sean: what i don't understand is the very day and i have been going back to this that you guys in the house were doing the right thing and i give the republicans they didn't vote for obama care, they didn't vote for the ss tre taets of the president. they didn't vote for stimulus. they voted to rwhat eal obama e and voted for the ryan plan and cut cap and tax and then all of a slatiden we are compete agait ourselves and the president and the democrats haven't passed a single thing. tactically is that a mistake when you negotiate against yourself. >icalone thing you learn in sas and i ran an insurance agency for a long time. once you make your offer you stop talking. you don't have a counter offer you simply stop talking and this is what we need to do. we