they're not in any commissions, periiod. because of the opportunity that has to deal with apartments is the commissioner, or have someone else in your office deal with the commission. i will shut up. the city attorney does not have a record because there is not. >> supervisor weiner. >> you are referring to realtors and attorneys as well? >> i was. he was originated because -- routinely appeared before commission. >> are you expressing the view that realtors should not be serving? >> yes. >> attorneys as well? >> absolutely. >> did you oppose rafael - ? he was a very good member of the board of appeals. >> did they have any candidates in san francisco? he was in oakland. you are not allowed to practice in san francisco. >> it is inaccurate to say that land use attorney said not been on the board of appeals. >> i was not aware of it if he was practicing san francisco; i would've raise the same objection. >> good afternoon supervisors, my name is dick allen and i had no idea i would be here today yesterday. it was a chance e-m