senator from arkansas that is republicans said it was an "massive political blunder by the democrats perko host: -- massive blunder by the democrats." host: -- guest: joe manchin who is a led the charge along with a susan collins, the moderate republican from maine who often rises above the fray and two attentions and above the crowd whenever there is a crisis or standoff. she is crucial to defeating to the health care legislation earlier this year and also was crucial to pack think -- the passing tax reform. she was hosting meetings in her office. there are more than 20 democratic and republican colleagues. she had a bipartisan group that reached as big as two dozen. weekend and yesterday, they met a negotiated and they figured out what it would take to reopen the government. the ones that presented a plan to the democratic leadership and ultimately the republican leadership, and they brokered this deal to get the government reopened. it is a criticism of moderates schumer to change his position because what the democrats agreed to on monday was not all that different. it was very similar