. >> there is a view, rightly or wrongly, that peltz is operating for ike perlmutter, and ike perlmutters out for bob iger. again, i say, rightly or wrongly, that is a view. and so, i think, you know, we'll watch this closely, because it may impact at least mr. iger's tenure as well. >> were you surprised? that board, katz, parker from nike, calvin mcdonald, and james gorman, total heavyweights, would they, together, do better with peltz? because the board is not done the shareholders a great service in terms of succession, one of the most important things they do. wouldn't they do better? i don't know. i feel like at this point, they've spent a lot of time and energy, they should just add him on, move on. this is so disruptive. >> it has been very disruptive. it is coming to an end, and to your point, you have that view. that view is not shared at all by the board, and top management at disney. >> great story. i mean, great business story, because these are some of the greatest business people in the world, and it's an iconic company, and bob iger did really well for a long time, and yo