they need to maybe think about being what's called a perma lancer. and i know companies are taking on people on a contract basis. do you need to take a little bit of a pay cut so you can just get in the door? >> get your foot in the door any way you can. any kind of freelancing, anything to get experience. and once do you that, even if it's part time or if it's temp work, only temp in an industry you're interested in so that you develop a network of contacts, you have clients, you're inside the company and the industry that you want to be in. and then make sure, though, that you're not signing any contracts, even as a freelancer, that will impede your ability to get a -- i'm sorry, a full-time job. >> joannie and ellen, thank you so much. have a great weekend, ladies. >>> $92,000 can buy you a lot of things. why a quality education might not be one of them. next. in just 14 minutes. mmmh, orange chicken. great. i didn't feel like going out anyway. [ male announcer ] wanchai ferry. restaurant quality chinese in your grocer's freezer. [ male announcer